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05-18-2009, 07:08 AM
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#736
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Registered: Jan 2005
Location: Central Florida 20 minutes from Disney World
Distribution: SlackwareŽ
Posts: 13,991
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Hi,
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Originally Posted by Disillusionist
I thought Sar-chasm was the intellectual gap between someone being sarcastic, and someone else not understanding 
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sarcasm;
Sharp, bitter words that make fun of someone or something, ridicule.
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I don't believe 'sarcasm' is hyphenated. The way I look at the post then sarcasm fits for me.
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05-18-2009, 07:41 AM
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#737
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Member
Registered: Jan 2004
Location: In the county of Essex, UK
Posts: 72
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There's no MeGui for linux yet 
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05-18-2009, 09:49 AM
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#738
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Registered: Sep 2008
Posts: 49
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I don't because Age of Empires works good under Linux
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06-09-2009, 06:39 PM
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#739
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Member
Registered: Jun 2009
Location: Texas
Distribution: Slackware
Posts: 611
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After years of dragging my old copy of Windows XP around with me running on VMWare, my (meager) skills with WINE and CUPS have finally evolved to the point that I can say . . . I DON'T!!!
Yeeeee-ha!!!
It's a great feeling, too.
I guess the argument could be made that I still 'use' Windows, since I have to enable a lot of native DLLs to get certain games to run under WINE, and those DLLs are technically a part of Windows . . . but I don't care; my feeling of freedom remains unhampered.
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06-09-2009, 07:38 PM
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#740
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Member
Registered: Dec 2008
Location: New York
Distribution: Slack -current, siduction
Posts: 253
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I don't...for over a year now. I'm somewhat of a gamer still, but everything I care to play runs fine under wine. Even my wife is getting a bit comfy w/linux....altho I have Debian Lenny on the other hd for her 
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06-09-2009, 10:24 PM
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#741
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Guru
Registered: Mar 2004
Location: Canada
Distribution: Slackware, Void, VMs: AntiX, Arch, Debian
Posts: 7,504
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In the last several days I've started running XP Pro SP2 in a VM (the only way I would run windows) for the fun of it. 
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06-10-2009, 07:23 AM
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#742
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Senior Member
Registered: May 2008
Location: Poland
Distribution: Slackware (personalized Window Maker), Mint (customized MATE)
Posts: 1,315
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April 24, 2009 I managed to install printer driver in Slackware and I stopped to use Windows at all. Now I'm 47 days Windows free!
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06-10-2009, 03:14 PM
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#743
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Member
Registered: Aug 2008
Location: north-east ohio
Distribution: Debian-squeeze/stable;
Posts: 279
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Couple of reason windows still has its uses.
First reason, Turbotax and taxcut only run in windows - wouldnt work using wine.
Second reason, most online service providers do not, WILL NOT, provide any support if you are using linux. I get what service I need from them while logged on with a windows box, then translate that to linux (example problem I had with my e-mail account)
Gary
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06-10-2009, 03:57 PM
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#744
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Member
Registered: Oct 2007
Location: Norway
Distribution: Slackware 14.1
Posts: 446
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Quote:
Originally Posted by garyg007
Second reason, most online service providers do not, WILL NOT, provide any support if you are using linux.
Gary
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That's right. When I first order ADSL some years ago, they had this commercial that said I could watch movies online for a whole month for free. They also had some games online we could use. I didn't care for that, but they were the only one that delivered ADSL to my address so I had to stick with them.
I wanted to check out these movies since it was free and all, but they didn't work. I called their help desk and said their movies didn't work. He said I needed some plugins for windows media player or something. I said I didn't have windows media player. He didn't quite understand that tho, so I told him I used Slackware linux. They didn't have any support for Linux, he said. I wanted my movies, so I said "Your ad said free movies for one month, but didn't mention it was for windows only. I want to see movies". :P No one could help me, so I got one month free Internet 
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06-10-2009, 05:48 PM
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#745
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Moderator
Registered: Jan 2005
Location: Central Florida 20 minutes from Disney World
Distribution: SlackwareŽ
Posts: 13,991
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Hi,
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Originally Posted by garyg007
Couple of reason windows still has its uses.
First reason, Turbotax and taxcut only run in windows - wouldnt work using wine.
Second reason, most online service providers do not, WILL NOT, provide any support if you are using linux. I get what service I need from them while logged on with a windows box, then translate that to linux (example problem I had with my e-mail account)
Gary
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You could use a VM on your GNU/Linux for your M$ OS.
You just have to ask the proper questions so your ISP can provide the answers. It really doesn't matter which OS your using as long as the proper configurations are made. As for the ISP not supporting GNU/Linux, most do. You just need to move up a level from the quickhlelp techies. I've never had a problem getting information and fitting to my GNU/Linux configuration(s) with any of my machines.
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06-10-2009, 08:49 PM
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#746
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Member
Registered: Aug 2008
Location: north-east ohio
Distribution: Debian-squeeze/stable;
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Hello, Onebuck. I appreciate your comments; you have given me assistance more than once; But I'm still in "rant mode" after my last experiance with windstream.
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You could use a VM on your GNU/Linux for your M$ OS.
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Yes, that is true; actually,that is what I do (virtualbox); but the fact remains, I still have to use windows - what a bummer. But windows serves a usefull purpose -- everytime I have to start it up, It remindes me why I hate it so much.
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You just have to ask the proper questions so your ISP can provide the answers. It really doesn't matter which OS your using as long as the proper configurations are made.
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Thats true; but I find it somewhat disconcerting trying to fill in a thunderbird configuration while the "quickhelp" techie is speaking windows outlook; or while they are trying to help me with a network communications problem and they are speaking windows and I am speaking Slackware. I keep a windows pc because I think it is necessary to make sure there is no linux in the mix when I am arguing with the ISP's techie.
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As for the ISP not supporting GNU/Linux, most do. You just need to move up a level from the quickhlelp techies. I've never had a problem getting information and fitting to my GNU/Linux configuration(s) with any of my machines.
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The last time I talked to Windstream the techie told me - in no uncertain terms - we do not support linux; I told him all I wanted was some of the configuration information for the modem THEY provided; he transfered me to a marketing person who tried to sell me a monthly maintenance agreement ----- it was either hangup on 'em or start using some very bad language, I hung up.
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06-10-2009, 09:10 PM
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#747
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Registered User
Registered: Dec 2006
Posts: 1,454
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Originally Posted by garyg007
But windows serves a usefull purpose -- everytime I have to start it up, It remindes me why I hate it so much.
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ROFL- Just had to say "I like that one"!
Another useful purpose: I used it to download Linux.
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Originally Posted by garyg007
Thats true; but I find it somewhat disconcerting trying to fill in a thunderbird configuration while the "quickhelp" techie is speaking windows outlook; or while they are trying to help me with a network communications problem and they are speaking windows and I am speaking Slackware. I keep a windows pc because I think it is necessary to make sure there is no linux in the mix when I am arguing with the ISP's techie.
The last time I talked to Windstream the techie told me - in no uncertain terms - we do not support linux
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Maybe I missed something (didn't read the entire thread), but the info is always the same regardless whether you're using Outlook, Thunderbird, Seamonkey, Evolution, or whatever. The ISP may not provide support for Linux (that's why there's LQ  ), but once the info is entered, it works.
Cheers
Last edited by DragonSlayer48DX; 06-10-2009 at 09:15 PM.
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06-10-2009, 09:57 PM
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#748
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Moderator
Registered: Jan 2005
Location: Central Florida 20 minutes from Disney World
Distribution: SlackwareŽ
Posts: 13,991
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Hi,
Quote:
Originally Posted by garyg007
Hello, Onebuck. I appreciate your comments; you have given me assistance more than once; But I'm still in "rant mode" after my last experiance with windstream.
Yes, that is true; actually,that is what I do (virtualbox); but the fact remains, I still have to use windows - what a bummer. But windows serves a usefull purpose -- everytime I have to start it up, It remindes me why I hate it so much.
Thats true; but I find it somewhat disconcerting trying to fill in a thunderbird configuration while the "quickhelp" techie is speaking windows outlook; or while they are trying to help me with a network communications problem and they are speaking windows and I am speaking Slackware. I keep a windows pc because I think it is necessary to make sure there is no linux in the mix when I am arguing with the ISP's techie.
The last time I talked to Windstream the techie told me - in no uncertain terms - we do not support linux; I told him all I wanted was some of the configuration information for the modem THEY provided; he transfered me to a marketing person who tried to sell me a monthly maintenance agreement ----- it was either hangup on 'em or start using some very bad language, I hung up.
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I'm glad to be of assistance. I'm not familiar with your ISP. Mine is a small provider here in Central Illinois. The assistance is great. I know most techs by their first names. I rarely speak with their sales office but even those people are helpful and not pushy. The initial quickhelp/helpdesk people are not that bad but a professional will know they are using a desk reference. That's why I suggest the move to the next level of support.
I really don't care about the type of help as long as I get my question(s) answered properly. As for application help, I can understand the ISP's position. Most of the request are for technical configuration information not how do a setup for a application to get to my mail. As an example I will ask the tech for their mail server address information and type of services then setup my end the way I want. I like having the duality/redundant systems so I do on occasion have to get additional information from the ISP. I use the service(s) that are paid for thus why not utilize that hdd space the ISP says I have.
Sometimes the tech will have to get back with detail information via the phone or even email. I don't mind as long as the information is correct and complete.
I'd give up M$ completely but I still have clients that must use that tool.  My preference is UNIX but Slackware meets my needs now.
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06-11-2009, 08:18 AM
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#749
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LQ Newbie
Registered: May 2009
Location: Turkey/İstanbul
Distribution: slackware-current
Posts: 21
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I use Windows only for Quark Xpress 4.1 which I need for work. I managed to run Quark in wine with Turkish font support but I couldn't manage install adobe PDF printer to it. For everything else I use slackware-current
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10-07-2009, 08:59 PM
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#750
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Member
Registered: Feb 2009
Distribution: FreeBSD, OpenBSD, NetBSD, Debian, Fedora
Posts: 770
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I use windows to apply for certain jobs online. The site "works best with internet explorer."
And also for a tutorial CD that was made only to work on windows.
Besides those two, nothing else.
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