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Old 08-07-2006, 05:47 PM   #436
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You ever tried Kexi? I'd be interested in a comparison...

http://conference2005.kde.org/cfp/de...aniek-kexi.php
No, not really. I would love it if I could do it in Kexi, although I'd have to convince my boss to use it. I don't think Kexi's there yet, though, because it's a fairly involved database with complex forms, a good bit of vba code, ... Again, I would love it if I could do it in Kexi or OOBase, though.
 
Old 08-08-2006, 01:36 AM   #437
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...If you want a simple relational database, it's OK. However don't expect a lot. ...
Mmm, yes. Is Access that much more? I honestly don't know, it's years and years that I used it and it's strenghts then were the slick user interface, not so much the abilities of the underlying database...
 
Old 08-09-2006, 02:17 PM   #438
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games, if I still played them.
Google Earth is really cool.

I have a laptop and a desktop dual booting, but the only time Window$ gets booted is when my wife uses the lappy--but she is even trying linux from time to time.
 
Old 08-10-2006, 01:54 AM   #439
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...Google Earth is really cool....
There is a (beta) version for linux now...
 
Old 08-10-2006, 02:21 AM   #440
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Haven't read this whole thread (sorry). I'll be keeping an old offline PC running under Win 98 SE for:
- XyWrite (pure ASCII, very powerful wp package, which I understand was originally the PC version of Latex [sp?]). I'm a writer, and have very large text files -- some Web sites I wrote, as well as novels & plays & articles & manuals & such.
- Ecco (PIM)
- PageMaker 6.5
- Visio Pro (old, non MS version)
- probably a few other special-purpose packages or utilities I can't think of at the moment, like maybe APL or J for programming, in case I need to program something (seems unlikely ).

A currently wrecked new PC, which will have XP Home restored when manufacturer fixes it, will become my dual-boot offline PC. If I decide it's safe, the Linux partition might be allowed on a home network for file-sharing, but not on the Web.

This new machine will be mostly for graphics -- it has newer hardware not available on my old 2nd-hand PCs (I'm very poor):
- an '8-in-1 card reader,' whatever that means, to deal with whatever digital camera I eventually get,
- a DVD player, so I can watch films (I don't have a tv),
- CD burner (same drive as DVD player/burner).

Also, there's some (free as in no-cost) software XP Home runs that Linux doesn't (yet). One is Fractal Explorer (very neat graphics pgm), and there may be others I haven't run into yet.

I just bought a cheap used PC to become my new online PC running just MEPIS Linux, behind a router. Just waiting for the CD of latest MEPIS so I can set it up.

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Old 08-11-2006, 12:23 AM   #441
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I'm using windows until I'm confident I can abandon it. I figure I'll probably leave it somewhere on my computer for the rare occasion I'll be needing something in windows... I have VB2005 express installed because I'm working a job where I program in vb at this point... I'll also probably need it for a few games, but I'll be playing them less and less anyway...

Oh... and in particular I won't make a full transition to linux until I get the wireless sorted (at this point, I have a plain install of Ubuntu which recognises the card, but can only handle WEP not WPA...). Once that's done, I'll just need to setup some media programs to listen to music and watch movies (I know there's lots out there, but I have to figure out which one to get and how to use it), and I'll make a concerted move towards linux
 
Old 08-11-2006, 07:14 AM   #442
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Yea, I program in VS 2005 Express too, but I'm thinking of moving entirely to another language so I can start doing cross-platform stuff (or perhaps getting .NET stuff ported to Linux)

I also still need Windows for Watching TV/Video Capture and Editing, at least until I can figure out how to get my TV Card (MSI Vox) working under Linux.

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Old 08-11-2006, 07:40 AM   #443
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techwatcher: For maths there are load of good linux programs freemat, (a matlab clone) sage (a program that brings together many of the best o/s maths programs under one roof) http://modular.math.washington.edu/sage/ and load of others for fractal I have found this list.

Multiplatform generator programs

* Xaos — free fractal real-time browser for Windows, Mac, Linux; supporting zooming and animation in real time, featuring autopilot. GNU GPL licensed.
* FLAM3 — free advanced iterated function system designer and renderer for all platforms. Windows binaries available. GNU GPL licensed.
* Fract — A web-based fractal zoomer, sending calculated images as bitmaps to the browser. Rather slow.
* Online Fractal Generator — Java applet drawing Mandelbrot and Julia sets. Rather slow. Closed sourced.



Linux generator programs

* Gnofract4d — Interactive editor which can use many fractint formulas. Open source, BSD-licensed.
* IFSgr — free iterated function system grayscale renderer. GNU GPL-licensed. See also its image gallery.
* Review of fractal software packages which run under X11 on Linux


for latex I use kile I enven have mac friends that prefeer kile to the mac equivalent!

As for my self I am teaching my self CAD and althoug qcad is good it's not 3d so I am using solidworks in windows (a friend gave me a copy) I know there are 3d cad packages for linux but I can't afford them. Also I have been playing around with music recently and am considering getting mspinky which is only avalible on mac and windows, altough there is talk of a linux sdk kit. There are projects to similar things to mspinky but they are a long way off being useful.

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Old 08-11-2006, 07:44 AM   #444
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Primarliy CoD2 and some other games that i cannot get to work with either Ubuntu or Gentoo with wine or cedega.

the rest of Win32 apps that i cant run i run under an XP VM as its quicker than rebooting to XP

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Old 08-11-2006, 12:33 PM   #445
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Why do I keep the windows on?

I am a newbie to the Linux world and still have my HDD split 50/30GB in favor of Windows. What keeps me like that is the following:

1. The hard way to install things on Linux - maybe it is so hard because there is too much choice of many things that do the same thing, and because there are far too different distros. So if you want to run a program under linux it is better compile it for your machine, otherwise you end up in bad performance. Well, for a newbie it is really hard even to get used to the linux GUI, what remains for using the whole pack of "vi, make, ls, mount" stuff in the shell.

2. The way you play any type of multimedia - well, I would say it is related to No.1, because you really really need to be more than aware of what you are doing in order to install correctly all the multimedia RPMs and codecs and stuff, and to compile and install and use command line once again and on and on and on just to finally play the MP3's. RealPlayer does it, you might say, however I have the realplayer on windows too, I don't like it there, I won't like it on any OS. Besides - it is not the audio only, it is like that with video, even worse.

3. 3D and games - well, there are no 2 opinions about it - Mr. Gates dominates the gaming world. Yes, there are pro's and con's however - PC gaming IS windows dominated.

4. All the web tools of Adobe (including the Macromedia products, as you know Adobe acquired Macromedia)and the Corel products. - Well there is no much to say - both Adobe and Corel offer MacOS or Win products. And that is that. I have tried the Gimp and, ok it is a good tool, but not for a professional work.

Ok, you say I sound really pro windows, what am I doing here and why do I want to go to linux? These are the reasons why:

1. I got sick of WinOS everlasting evergrowing hunger for resources - more disk space, more memory, more CPU power, more more more... And if you need more you have to get the latest hardware, otherwise "Your hardware is not supported by Windows" will slap you in the face. And that is that - get your ass moving and run to the store, make it quick, as if you don't hurry, the new hardware you buy will not be supported anymore.

2. Back to the hardware - ok, we have plug n play, however you really need to choose carefully your hardware, otherwise you will not be able to run it no matter if you have the newest drivers or not. And last but not least - some things just don't work on Windows.

3. The choice you have with Linux - yes, this is the thing that dominates the linux world - you've got choice. Kernels, GUIs, drivers, solutions, tools, everything is just in front of you. You can have one kernel and 10 or even more GUIs, or even better - NO GUI. You can access everything the way you want, you can use different programs for every single thing, or you can use programs designed for a different GUI on your favorite. And everything is dominated by simplicity and is focused on productivity, creativity, stability and security.

4. Free OS, or at least used to be free... This was the original idea of the internet and linux - to have it free - free information, free knowledge, free help, free MIND...Unfortunately the Linux world, as every thing on the Earth, is becoming more and more commercialized. Still it is a thing you can get for free - or at least for a relatively low cost. But after having spent a fortune on Windows, hell yeah - I am moving to Linux.

Well that's that - 4 by 4. I have more for you, however I think every single person has to have the choice to figure it out for himself, I hope I gave you some guidelines - you have to make your pro/con list on your own.
 
Old 08-13-2006, 01:30 PM   #446
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Originally Posted by TheBrick
techwatcher: For maths there are load of good linux programs freemat sage http://modular.math.washington.edu/sage/ and load of others for fractal I have found this list.

Multiplatform generator programs

* Xaos — free fractal real-time browser for Windows, Mac, Linux; supporting zooming and animation in real time, featuring autopilot. GNU GPL licensed.
* FLAM3 — free advanced iterated function system designer and renderer for all platforms. Windows binaries available. GNU GPL licensed.
* Fract — A web-based fractal zoomer, sending calculated images as bitmaps to the browser. Rather slow.
* Online Fractal Generator — Java applet drawing Mandelbrot and Julia sets. Rather slow. Closed sourced.



Linux generator programs

* Gnofract4d — Interactive editor which can use many fractint formulas. Open source, BSD-licensed.
* IFSgr — free iterated function system grayscale renderer. GNU GPL-licensed. See also its image gallery.
* Review of fractal software packages which run under X11 on Linux


for latex I use kile I enven have mac friends that prefeer kile to the mac equivalent!

As for my self I am teaching my self CAD and althoug qcad is good it's not 3d so I am using solidworks in windows (a friend gave me a copy) I know there are 3d cad packages for linux but I can't afford them. Also I have been playing around with music recently and am considering getting mspinky which is only avalible on mac and windows, altough there is talk of a linux sdk kit. There are projects to similar things to mspinky but they are a long way off being useful.
Wow, I really appreciate your post. I'm a pure science major, and I'm really stick of making math reports in MSWord and graphs in MSPaint (lol). Always wanted to check out Latex, but was never sure where to start. I've got to tinker with Kile!

Do you have a particular recommendation for making images like the ones at www.matharticles.com?

Some simple ones from MathArticles.com
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...e/Figure_2.png
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...e/Figure_1.png

Made for a simple math paper using a cad program -- took me forever.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...humbShrink.gif

Made using MSPaint for another simply math paper -- really annoying.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...ce/Figure2.png
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...ce/Figure1.png


Thanks again!

DrCR

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Weird, img tags don't work.

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Old 08-13-2006, 09:33 PM   #447
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windows programs

I use windows for:
PFE Gold (it's a military testing study guide)
a program that allows me view/edit .xfd files
 
Old 08-13-2006, 11:50 PM   #448
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I still need Windows for:

1) A proprietary database program I use at work.

2) My job requires me to access certain "secure" websites which require Internet Explorer 5.0. Attempting to access these sites with Firefox or Opera "masked" as I.E. just doesn't work. You can't even access these ridiculous sites under Windows with versions of I.E. later than 5.0!!

3) I use IBM's "Voice Dictation" which has no Linux equivalent (and never will).

4) Linux won't work with my TV card, so I have to use Windows to tune in TV stations or FM radio. I've tried buying other TV cards (including some claimed absolutely to work in Linux), but none of them have ever worked in any version of Linux I've tried.

5) The only graphics program available for Linux appears to be Gimp. I've tried to use Gimp for everything, but I just can't seem to get the hang of it (it's not at all intuitive). I keep going back to Photoshop Elements and other Windows graphics programs that I know.

6) Linux won't work with my USB digital voice recorder. To access the digital voice files, I have to use Windows.

7) I still can't get Fedora 5 to play mp3s or DVDs or any video files whatsoever, despite many hours devoted to trying to resolve this. I've read coutless "solutions" to this dilemma on the internet, and from bulletin boards like this, but none of them ever seem to work. If I want to listen to a CD, watch a DVD, or play a video or mp3 file, I've got to use Windows.

8) The Macromedia "Flashplayer" plugin for Linux doesn't seem to work in Fedora 5, neither for Opera nor Firefox. I've tried many, many suggestions for installing Flashplayer for Firefox for Fedora 5, but none of these have ever worked. If I want to watch videos on YouTube or MySpace or other sites, I have to use Firefox or Opera under Windows.

9) I still use Nero 7 under Windows to burn iso files to bootable CDs. The CD/DVDburner built into Fedora 5 doesn't seem to do this. I'm aware that there is a Nero version for Linux, but I haven't been able to confirm it will handle the conversion of iso image to boot disk. And I'm reluctant to pay for Nero for Linux, since very few of the tarballs I try to install ever seem to actually install. (I hate paying for something and then not getting anything in return!). I'm sure this is due to my lack of understanding of the Unix command set, but it's taking me forever to learn this. As a former MS-DOS programmer, I know command-line interfaces are much, much faster and more efficient than graphical interfaces. But that assumes you know the command syntax, which, for Unix, I don't (yet).

10) Finally, I haven't been able to get Fedora 5 to print to any printers (local or networked). Weirdly, Core 5 identifies the printers flawlessly (even the networked ones), but refuses to print to any of them, no matter what I try. In order to print, I e-mail the files to myself. Then I boot into Windows, open the attached e-mail files with OpenOffice for Windows, and print to the same printers under Windows!

Last edited by A_Complete_Idiot; 08-13-2006 at 11:55 PM.
 
Old 08-14-2006, 02:03 AM   #449
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Originally Posted by rhyan-brw
I am a newbie to the Linux world and still have my HDD split 50/30GB in favor of Windows. What keeps me like that is the following:

1. The hard way to install things on Linux - maybe it is so hard because there is too much choice of many things that do the same thing, and because there are far too different distros. So if you want to run a program under linux it is better compile it for your machine, otherwise you end up in bad performance. Well, for a newbie it is really hard even to get used to the linux GUI, what remains for using the whole pack of "vi, make, ls, mount" stuff in the shell.

2. The way you play any type of multimedia - well, I would say it is related to No.1, because you really really need to be more than aware of what you are doing in order to install correctly all the multimedia RPMs and codecs and stuff, and to compile and install and use command line once again and on and on and on just to finally play the MP3's. RealPlayer does it, you might say, however I have the realplayer on windows too, I don't like it there, I won't like it on any OS. Besides - it is not the audio only, it is like that with video, even worse.

3. 3D and games - well, there are no 2 opinions about it - Mr. Gates dominates the gaming world. Yes, there are pro's and con's however - PC gaming IS windows dominated.

4. All the web tools of Adobe (including the Macromedia products, as you know Adobe acquired Macromedia)and the Corel products. - Well there is no much to say - both Adobe and Corel offer MacOS or Win products. And that is that. I have tried the Gimp and, ok it is a good tool, but not for a professional work.

Ok, you say I sound really pro windows, what am I doing here and why do I want to go to linux? These are the reasons why:

1. I got sick of WinOS everlasting evergrowing hunger for resources - more disk space, more memory, more CPU power, more more more... And if you need more you have to get the latest hardware, otherwise "Your hardware is not supported by Windows" will slap you in the face. And that is that - get your ass moving and run to the store, make it quick, as if you don't hurry, the new hardware you buy will not be supported anymore.

2. Back to the hardware - ok, we have plug n play, however you really need to choose carefully your hardware, otherwise you will not be able to run it no matter if you have the newest drivers or not. And last but not least - some things just don't work on Windows.

3. The choice you have with Linux - yes, this is the thing that dominates the linux world - you've got choice. Kernels, GUIs, drivers, solutions, tools, everything is just in front of you. You can have one kernel and 10 or even more GUIs, or even better - NO GUI. You can access everything the way you want, you can use different programs for every single thing, or you can use programs designed for a different GUI on your favorite. And everything is dominated by simplicity and is focused on productivity, creativity, stability and security.

4. Free OS, or at least used to be free... This was the original idea of the internet and linux - to have it free - free information, free knowledge, free help, free MIND...Unfortunately the Linux world, as every thing on the Earth, is becoming more and more commercialized. Still it is a thing you can get for free - or at least for a relatively low cost. But after having spent a fortune on Windows, hell yeah - I am moving to Linux.

Well that's that - 4 by 4. I have more for you, however I think every single person has to have the choice to figure it out for himself, I hope I gave you some guidelines - you have to make your pro/con list on your own.
hmm ... 4 by 4 ...

i think there are nothings in windows that are worth to hold on to and this also applies to linux and the rest of the non-windows os too ... it would be silly if we fail to understand that ...

there are something which are inherent naturally in free softwares and linux(this one , i mean linux , is kind of like the "main" vehicle of free softwares movement at the moment) , namely the most basic(and probably strict) morals and ethical standard which are supposed to be inherent is human activities of all sorts ... being good or evil is not that hard ...

when we are able to understand that in a simple way , then all sorts of difficulties and inconveniencies that we encountered in non-windows os wont matter much because we know that there are always abundant demands of issues that have yet to work on than the supplies of toolings but ... unfortunately we are too easily being decieved by the apparentness of there are more ready tools than unremedied issuses around us ...

and one more thing ... if we start to dive into those abundant demands of issues that have yet to work on , we will understand the simple truth of life seems apparently long but too short to remedy much and we wont have time for pc games and such at all ... we wont be able to look back "much" and that will be very good for a consistent way of living ...


btw ... actually this simple truth is very old ...


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Old 08-14-2006, 04:51 AM   #450
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DrCR: I am afriad I don't know of any easy way of doing pictures like that. I would probibly use xfig or maybe inkscape myself. xfig is quite good and can export to eps for when you put it in a latex documtent.

If you have a go at latex the hardest thing you will find is dealing with graphics but once you have done a few it is fine. Latex is worth the learing curve if you have to do scientific writing I found word produced massive documents and would currupt my files. Plus it looks so much more professional. During my time at university in 3 maths departments I have only met three lectures that do not use latex for there work, I think it is the same in physics and engineering as well.

You will need to include \usepackage[dvips]{graphicx} and I also like using \usepackages{psfrag} it allows you to anotate your fig with latex fonts by putting labels in your diagrams.

Search for the not so short introduction to latex (a pdf), essential latex (a .ps) to get you started.

You can also try lyx which has latex code you can edit but is largly WYSIWYG http://www.lyx.org/ and genorates the code. I have not tried it but some people in my office use it.
 
  


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