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Old 01-02-2006, 01:50 AM   #316
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Only reason is becuase I have DirectX games.... and because I havn't gotten Xorg86 working on my LFS setup, I can't try out cedga. So until I can figure out what to do with my games, and I get to use windows. If I can get the previously metioned working I might erase my windows partition or something. That is a maby.
 
Old 01-05-2006, 07:22 AM   #317
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Well I just had to use windows, The drivers for my cell phone under Linux only let me use it as a modem and I can'y synch with bitpim so I have to copy my data to windows where the proprotary interface driver exists.
 
Old 01-31-2006, 03:38 PM   #318
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I keep all of my personal stuff on encrypted ext2, and only allow stuff on Windows for using these programs:

1) Paint Shop Pro 7. I've been using PSP since long before I knew what Linux was.

2) The image converter for my EOS 20D; the cr2 raw image format is proprietary, therefore I need the supplied Windows software to decode them.

3) Nero 6. I just installed this today, actually, since I have to get some DVD+R DLs burned right away, and I haven't gotten that to work on Linux yet.

4) MS Word. I only use this because work and all of the schools I've attended require this at some point.

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Old 01-31-2006, 05:32 PM   #319
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My Windows "comfort zones" (Places from which I could escape if I had to)

Photoshop
ACDSee photo editor, sorter
Quicken
MS Project
Panotools / PTAssembler for panorama stitching
Occassional formatting in Word or Powerpoint
Occassional administrative tools at the office.
 
Old 02-01-2006, 02:44 AM   #320
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Interesting post,
gained some insights from it. Some of what i write below mirrors other's thoughts, others might not...

I recently posted regarding a question about -- and possible ongoing discussion of-- how to use flumotion streaming server from configuring linux (FC4 for me) for flumotion streams, to configuring flumotion itself, to streaming to a client. The streaming post is titled "flumotion install to client," but its relevance here is that, as broad accessibility is a concern of mine (i'd like to stream to whoever is interested in viewing) having windows media player on my windows partition lets me know if my work (streams) is reaching a WMP/windows platform audience.

Also, while I enjoy and am coming to depend heavily on Linux, and my goals (patent free creation and distribution) make me comitted to linux, I simply love how easy it is to install and use things on windows. I have heard those suggest that on windows it is not always easy to install things. The comparison lists of install tasks used to make this point, though, always involve a few commands needed for a linux package install, and quite a few clicks needed on windows... the idea being that less steps are needed on Linux. However, this implies that one knows the commands that are necessary for a linux program install (and install notes are not always clear or readily available)...

Even if windows requires many clicks, "what to do" is always clear and easy on windows installs. Hardly a news flash I know. I have heard many the reasons why this is not a major issue for Linux and linux programs. I am on your side! But it is a major issue, it is THE issue for linux. There should be a nearly universal set of install standards, and self extracting "one click" install wizards possible for those who desire (allowing people to go back and tweak after getting the basic install up and running, or a way for those already sure of their mods to skip the wizard). Desktop linux and GUI linux platforms are the norm now, lets move toward the click install functionality this allows! (Yumex and other such tools go a long way toward this, but there is more that can be done).

OK, i'm on a tangent! My point is, when I need a program up and running fast for some task I suddenly have before me, I go to windows, I download the program, and I'm running. For instance, I just needed to get another implementation of VLC player up... and I used windows because it would be so easy... a no brainer. And this with streaming as my main concern/focus on Linux. I will of course reinstall VLC on linux (as soon as possible conflicts with other linux streaming software I am dealing with is resolved) but here is a perfect example of the ease of windows installs governing what i use on windows sometimes. The ability of windows installs (and programing) to take into account system conflicts and conflicts with other software is wonderful also. I know its common (and usually justified) to gripe against windows, but, writing from an FC4 computer, I say, give credit where credit is due. Some things on windows should be avoided, and most things on linux rightfully take neither a pro- or anti-windows stance as their inspiration, but merely meet users needs and imagination... but some things windows does should be openly admired and emulated. Installs are one of them. So, back to the point of this post... any program I need up and running fast, I use windows, even if I will eventually parallel it in linux.

That being said, I am happily impressed with how easy the transition has been to linux, (emailing from clunky old computer with linux and mozilla even though a dual-boot windows laptop is nearby).

Sorry for my long winded response. Brevity will prevail next time, I promise.

Last edited by kelilinux; 02-01-2006 at 02:48 AM.
 
Old 02-02-2006, 02:36 AM   #321
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...There should be a nearly universal set of install standards, and self extracting "one click" install wizards possible for those who desire (allowing people to go back and tweak after getting the basic install up and running, or a way for those already sure of their mods to skip the wizard). ...
Is this what you're looking for?
 
Old 02-05-2006, 02:15 AM   #322
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My HP scanjet 4670 scanner will not work in my Suse Linux 10 OS. All of my years of paperwork has been done on " Easy Office " software which I used instead of Microsoft office. That is all I use Windows for. Let me add that I had my hard drive reformatted with a " bare bones " windows XP OS partitioned on my " C " drive and my computer guy gave me driver disks for my printer and scanner. Only 5% of my C and 4% of my D drives are presently occupied with both OS's. I only use windows now to scan and print documents and to write letters.
It is going to take me quite some time to learn Linux but so far I am very happy with it.
 
Old 02-05-2006, 06:45 AM   #323
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windows user for games i feel, F.E.A.R, M$ Games etc, not a big fan of .xml extension comming into M$ office so switching back to openoffice. oyeah dont forget flash 8, CS2 love them
 
Old 02-05-2006, 08:26 AM   #324
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Why windows?

Strikes me that a lot of the posts there is obvioly a common theme...

1) Photoshop, Macromedia and Microsoft products seem to be the main software application reason.

2) Lack of driver support seems to be the main hardware reason

3) Games


Its worth while noting that with reference to the first point, there are decent alternatives out there, and if they don't do what the windows alternative does, there are also people out there who will implement the feature on your belhalf, so maybe right now Gimp doesn't do what Photoshop does, but if you let the GIMP team know, i'm sure they will implemement these features. Its not about commercial profit for these guys, its about bing the best they can be...Its like the open office program, its come on in leaps and bounds because people let them know what they wanted, and they implmented and tested it...

the inability to let go of some software you know is usually nothing however to do with a lack of features, and more to do with having to learn a new software package.

Having recently ditched XP completly, i have found out VERY quickly how the open source community are receptive to positive input and will help the transition, and that most of the software functions far better than the origional software i was using on XP...

As for install not being easy on Linux, Open office, RPM's 5 minutes, Firefox, 30 seconds, i think its about properly written software.. if its written well it will usually install.

Point 2 however is and i fear will be a sticky wicket for a long time to come, the lack of driver support. 99.9% of all hardware is supported on XP, however thet cheap chinese webcam etc which was purchased, or even that epson scanner from Circa 1995 doesn't have proper driver support then you are going to have problems, What is suprising is how with investiagtion, a lot fo what was considered to be unsuported hardware on my PC, was actually supported. I'll site my Officejet 1210 It printed but didn't scan, HP do have Linux printer drivers, however 20minutes on the net took me to the PTAL project..

And Point 3 is my favorite reason why people still have XP on thier PC's Games.. Duh! thats what consoles are for... CD in, press go and play.. Lets face it, an XP game is usually too hight a spec for your PC anyway, so you never get it to run properly, and when you do get a game to run properly on a "fress" install, add Office, and a few other "essentials" and it starts running like a dog (the game that is) so then you have to Defrag, and scandisk, and ativirus, then find yourself turning off the anti virus for better games speed, and then well basically give up, go out, buy a playstation 2, and play games which load straight away...

My final point is having been using Linux for a while now, i find it hard to go back to XP. Without needing stuff which is standard on Linux, i miss Grep, and Wget.. i find myself at a dos prompt typing in linux commands and going "arse" because its 1980's MS DOS.. I actually
spent 3o minutes trying to figure out what dd wouldn't work properly then remembered i was on XP..
 
Old 02-05-2006, 10:30 AM   #325
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sonicstage I don't have windoze on my desktop though.
 
Old 02-05-2006, 10:40 PM   #326
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There are five reasons I still use Windows 2000 and Windows XP.

1) Cinecap, a stop-motion video frame capture program that works with my Moviestuff WorkPrinter for transferring 8mm movie films frame by frame to AVI files. There is only a Windows version of this program, and I've never found anything else that works for this purpose as well as Cinecap.

2) Full support for an extended desktop spanning both monitors supported by my ATI Radeon 9600 graphics card. I really like this capability, and I sometimes boot Windows just so I can use it. I need it when I am doing something that requires me to have many windows open on the screen, all visible at the same time. Maybe there is really a way to use both of my monitors as an extended spanned desktop with Linux, but I haven't figured it out yet if so.

3) Nearly all of my family members, my partner, and many of my friends rely on me to assist them with their frequent Windows problems and questions, so I feel I need to keep up my knowledge and familiarity with it. I'm trying hard to convert some of them to Linux, but they are all afraid of it. They just want to have a fully functional computer with a pre-installed operating system that you just turn on and use, without having to mess with it much or understand it. It seems like Fedora is trying to move in that direction, so maybe some day...

4) My employer issues me a laptop that runs Windows 2000, and I am required to use it to login to the LAN remotely.

5) My own personal laptop is an IBM Thinkpad T43 that came with Windows XP. I plan to replace XP with FreeBSD or Slackware once I'm sure I'll be able to use the 2915abg wireless NIC on it. So far, none of the Live CD distros I've tried have recognized it or have been able to use it.
 
Old 02-06-2006, 09:42 AM   #327
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Craptastic nvidia/ati vendor drivers which you just happen to need to do just about anything in 3d... That and how those unstable vendor drivers still manage to run a lot slower.
 
Old 02-07-2006, 07:58 AM   #328
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Pinnacle Studio.
I don't know wether it's works through wine, but I don't want to take risks with this program.

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Old 02-07-2006, 08:34 AM   #329
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(read this thread to page 12)

Number one reason is Cubase. My studio is running on cubase and I occasionally take the projects home. I played around with Ardour and Amarok, but I don't see them replacing Cubase any time soon.

I've worked with this program since 1998, so it's kind of hard to let it go.

Secondary there is Dreamweaver, I'm trying to work with Bluefish and the Open Office html creation tool, but the table interpretation is still very buggy... There are problems with Dreamweaver too, but I already know how to work around them.

Oh yeah, and I'm currently learning to become a Microsoft Trainer. I'm not proud of it, but It's a well payed job.
 
Old 02-07-2006, 09:49 AM   #330
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Emulating Windows APPS is still slow...
3D MAX
MAYA
FLASH
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