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Old 06-10-2005, 09:56 PM   #196
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List is reverse. What do I ever use much in Linux?
I use in Windows XP Pro.. Access 2003, by far and away a better DBMS than MySQL, even the MS SQL Server 2000 is great. I use DVD Decrypter, as there is not a Linux equivalent, DVD2ONE, (DVD re-coding) Nero, WinFAST FM, and Video capture. My battery backup power supply is Windows only. Adobe Photoshop 6.0, and other Adobe stuff.

I use linux once in a while to be able to go in and delete an uninstalled program that still has some lingering folder that XP decided to "protect" .. Well, linux does not know it's protected and will delete any file or any folder in Windows Mnt I tell it to.

There are serveral OS that are out in the world today, and I think each one of them has a niche place that really fits them. Linux is a great web server, and also makes a very good file server on a corportaion. Howver, so does Windows 2003 Server.

Unix is good, but fear it has began a dying trend. Price, more than antyhing, and it's ability to be flexible to the destkop sector have given it a good shot of obsolencense.

MacIntosh is a good system and folks that have Macs swear by them. I find them a bit clumsy and better suited to those that have learned on it from the beginning.

The rest of the OS world has their stron points and weaknesses. Inasmuch as home consumers, my personal opinion is that Linux has tried really hard to become windows, with it's GUI and looks, and wants a market share of the interest. However, the ability to use the Windows installer, and simply click "Install" are not one of Linux strong selling points. To make matters even worse, each distro handles installing of hardware just a little different. a RPM for Mandrake may not work with a RPM of a SuSE flavor. Their diversity is their uniqueness, as well as their detriment. Windows, with 95, 98SE, 2000, Millenium Edition, and so on was bad enough, but when you consdier ALL the distros out there in the Linux community it pales in comparison.
Old 06-11-2005, 12:22 AM   #197
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Hiya Frost,

Don't get me wrong, I am slowly migrating over to Linux (Mandrake or SuSe when I get ahold of a set of disks for it ;-).)

But at the moment I'm not able to get everything sorted out to be able to do all the thigs I do in Windows.

multimedia has been a hassel... finally got a Jukbox to play my mp3's but of course it doesn't burn to CD or make random playlists... Shame Music Match doesn't install properly and of course they stopped supporting Linux.... speaking of burning CD'sand DVD's... still working on getting that up and running. Can play em.. just not burn at the moment

Video conferencing isnt' setup yet.. have a driver just haven't the time

It's a work in progress... as I said ...a hobbie at the moment.

now for the plus side!

-when a program locks up it doesn't bring down the house! -hardly any viruses etc for linux
-it's free, just add a little time
-tons of software even if some are of the "some assembly required" variety
-tons of good ppl ready to help, but you must be willing to learn first
-there are some good 2D/ 3D cad programs out there I just happen to be trained on AutoCAD and havent' found it's replacement... yet..
-fantastic office suites (Open Office for one)
-fantastic graphics programs (Gimp in particular)
-even found a program to replace 3D Studio Max and also MS Project of all things
-if you have the knowhow and the hardware (ie:PLC interface) you could program Linux to run your toaster, if you were so inclined ;-)
-some linux programs have been ported to Windows ie: Ginp, Open Office and a few others as well

So even though my previous post might have sounded a bit off, I am still in the learning curve as it were and still exploring the full potential of the linux world. Which by the way expands faster then Windows. Remember the days of DOS and Win 3.1? We had the power back then...

It all boils down to preference, myself, I like to have higher security, more control over programs and more stability and customization. I can also learn commercial programs by learning the Linux equivalents.

Make sence?


Old 06-12-2005, 12:22 AM   #198
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Hi ya Tony,
Ya, it makes sense. There are defenite pluses to Linux, or else it would have died the death of the rag doll many moons ago. Linux is configurable, writeable, and if you are good at programming, customizable. It offers a lot of inside tweaks that are just not found in the C++ and Visual Basic, (amongst other) language built programs of the Windows fame.

It's cheap, but interestingly, I read an article that 7-11 stores went with Windows Embeded OS with POS (Point Of Servie) in a very long study in overall costs. Now all the 711 stores run Windows XP Embeded (or soon will be) as their point of sale or point of service software package. I do not think a corporation as large as 7-11 would just "jump in" without first checking all venues of total overall cost of operations. Linux lost on that one. There are a beginning of new Linux POS applications starting to be very noticed on the net. Even Novell has an embeded POS in a forth comming kernel to be release later in 2005. Linux has their gifts and fine points. I just personally find it a whole lot easier to install and uninstall progrmas with the MSI installer that windows has and so many program vendors now write into their programs. Seems like a lot less hassle. Once it's installed in Widows XP, I can find it in the start menu and it become 'registered' as an active program.

Well, anyway, my point is each system, and indeed each Linux distro, appears to have it's stong point at what it does best. Linux will probably always be a great presence out there in the www doing a superb job as a server of web sites. For that it seems to work fabulous. It has some applications for home use, and even though it's majorly powerful, it's design is as such that the average joe computer user will always find a bit difficult to overcome. Why did we get away from pur DOS and go with the GUI of Windows? I even have problems with a few of my co-workers with doing simple commands in widows. They would be lost in the Linux enviroment.. rest assured I know where I'm comming from on that. I was opening up separate browsers on a computer the other day, doing some cost comparisons between, Staples, and Best Buy for a satellite radio system they are getting for the winery. They looked stunned. "Let me guess!" I told them... " you didn't know you could open up a web browser more than once?" Nope.. they though I was the comptuer guru being able to do that. Sometimes simple tasks of where they saved a file or how to get a file is baffling to them. Microsoft has tried to make running a computer as easy as falling off a log. Unfortunately, some folks I know say "what's a log?" LOL

oh well..
Old 06-12-2005, 01:23 AM   #199
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i would like to add that not only do i no longer dual boot at the house, but i have ZERO MS systems left. all 3 of my computers at the house run Debian-sarge with either the 2.4 or 2.6 kernels.

1 media box running the 2.4.x kernel
1 laptop running 2.6.8 kernel
1 desktop (my game box) running the 2.6.8 kernel

the desktop/gamebox is also my local NFS server for the media box as it has roughly 400G of storage space.
Old 06-14-2005, 02:52 PM   #200
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hi Lieb_KCir,

What kind of "media" do you run?

.... Tony
Old 06-15-2005, 11:10 PM   #201
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Windows just seems to run faster on my dual boot / dual monitor system compared to the MDK10.0 side. So lately I have been sticking with Windows on my workstation. I use putty to admin my Linux servers and that works out well.

As far as programs used in Windows, I use Macromedia and Adobe products that I haven't been able to get working in Linux. I gotsta have my FlashMX, Dreamweaver and Photoshop baby!
Old 06-16-2005, 06:10 AM   #202
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Duel boot between mepis+winXP

what i still use in XP
All my windows Games
er... i think thats it
Old 06-20-2005, 07:14 AM   #203
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Originally posted by Frost ...I do not think a corporation as large as 7-11 would just "jump in" without first checking all venues of total overall cost of operations...
Judging from this comment I gather that you'd be surprised how many firms (or rather their administrative bean counters) decide irrationally. OS's choice is for many types just an other form of belief -- at least in my own woeful experience .
Old 06-20-2005, 11:11 AM   #204
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IHMO, I think it may be a matter of training people to use another OS for support and end users another system. M$ has been around for a couple of decades with people using it at home as well; so the migration to the M$ work environment would be easier to cope with. The K.I.S.S rule applies here ;-) My self, I've been around from the DOS days and then Windoze 3.1 on... It takes time to get used to a new OS, finding the limits and ways around getting things done, ie. learning curve. If I had a background in Unix, then Linux would be a whole lot easier to get used to.

Old 06-21-2005, 05:24 PM   #205
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I have totally ditched windows now after duel booting for about 6 months! gamers out there buy a playstation! i got so sick to death of having to configure windows to run games, you should just be able to plug a disk in and off ya go. Also got sick of switching my machine on to write a letter but first having to update my anti virus, check for spyware then run all the windows updates etc. etc. one letter took about two hours! One of the updates for M$ office is the same size of open office's entirety! I have had losses as i used to like and use serif pageplus and dreamweaver but a small price to pay for sanity! there is scribus which is a dtp app and there is mozilla composer which is a gui web builder, sorted!
Old 06-22-2005, 08:18 PM   #206
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I still dual boot because of:

A few games. My systems is getting so old and slow that trying to run a game in Cedega is just not worth it. Some games run just a little bit slower and that can make the difference in whether I can play it or not.

DB Poweramp. Excellent music file conversion software, and free to boot! If someone can point out an alternative, that would be great.

DVD Shrink.

Plus, I work on pc's, so I need to be able to replicate some situations in Windows. Actually, I think Windows is great! Spyware and viruses have provided me with some additional income.
Old 06-23-2005, 07:47 AM   #207
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I do also dual-booting because of:

Avid Xpress, Xpress Pro and Xpress Pro-HD. Need to try this under wine, but Avid is a front end-professional-industrial non linear video editing solution and; chances are that will run far better under true windowze We´ll see....still to test this.....

Adobe Photoshop....: There are many features here that I need for my work that cannot be found on GiMP, which on the other side I think it is an excellent program....

USB 35 mm film scanner Pacific Image 1800u

Lexmark Z11 printer "Winshit": I have absolutely unable to make it work under Debian Woody as well as under Sarge...

Besides this I surf the net, mail, compose webs, model, lighten, do ALL of my 3D work (modelling, animation, lighting and render) under Blender, watch EVERY kind of clips (except WMV) and while I have been using Debian GNU Linux for almost nine months now, I feel more comfortable day by day, and only the points stated above are just what keep me tied to windblowze.....

My next step will be testing Video capture under linux, check deeper cinelerra (which I´ve got installed and running) and try Avid under wine.....

Regarding Avid over Wine I will keep posting....


Juan Javier Martínez
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Old 07-13-2005, 12:49 PM   #208
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i use windows for Ghost, and i can find a driver for my modem which i have been using for a long time cause it seems anywhere i go there is no highspeed, but i am getting dsl in a few days.

I would like to try WINE but i have to no idea how to get the program compiled to try to install it.
Old 07-13-2005, 12:56 PM   #209
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That's it.
Old 07-13-2005, 02:01 PM   #210
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posted on this thread before but my reasons have changed a little...

before, i ran windows solely because it's so much less hassle to run the vast majority of games under windows (not to mention the majority of my music was on an NTFS disk...). However, i've just got a new laptop and am finding it rather difficult to get anything to run with hardware detection in linux.

the laptop's an Acer 8103 and i really want to run ubuntu. however, the live version just freezes sometime when it starts detecting the monitor etc. Can anyone give me any hints on how to configure X for a non-standard resolution? (1600x1150, could be 1050)

for now though, i'm happy to use my desktop as a dedicated linux machine for development (Fortran, C mainly) and a samba file server while my laptop does everything else (typesetting, web-browsing, Matlab, Mathematica etc)



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