Hello...I lent my copy of doom2 to my younger brothers and its now scratched beyond repair...does anyone know of a place I can get the full doom2 wad? Or does anyone have it?

Thanks

You might be able to contact ID Software and talk them into sending you a replacement disk if you send yours in. It's not something companies like to advertise, but some will do it for a shipping/handling fee if you prove you bought the software. ID, years back, was pretty good about this kind of thing, too, but they're a lot bigger now than they were in those days. Unfortunately, they're still selling D2, so anyplace you could download it from would probably be a pirate site, which isn't something you're going to see help from LQers with.

Strange as it may seem, while Linux and GPL'd apps tend to be free to download, pirating is frowned on. Why? For a number of reasons. One, it actually supports proprietary, closed-source software, despite claims otherwise. The reason is that while someone might pirate the software, they're likely to show it to someone else, who likes it enough to buy it. If it's truly popular and a new version comes out, even former pirates tend to buy as they decide that they want support and so on. Virtually every program that's popular today that's been around for quite a few years got it's start by being "shared" with others. Many apps got their "lock-in" value because everybody had to have what everybody else had. The only reason everybody had it was because it was "shared" between friends. That, I guess, was fine in the 80's and early nineties, but now there are real alternatives, and there's no use for that anymore.

Other reasons are more obvious. It's illegal. More importantly, it's unethical. It's one thing to download something that a developer makes freely available. It's a whole other animal to take somebody else's hard work just because you can.

Lastly, it supports organizations like the RIAA, MPAA, the BSA and others. How? Because everybody knows someone that's a pirate, in one form or another. So, it's believable that those organizations are "just trying to help stop pirating". In reality, they're simply trying to boost their backer's bank accounts. If pirating wasn't so prevalent, then people wouldn't give these organizations the benefit of the doubt, and allow them to take away consumer's rights.

Sorry for the long part about pirating, it's just something to keep in mind, because it is tempting to hunt for and download a version off the net, especially if you feel you shouldn't have to pay twice because the disk is bad. If ID Software doesn't want to work with you on this, you can pick up D2 for $20 bucks, if that, from the clearance bin in most stores. From ID themselves, it's $25. If you like the game enough, that's not too bad, and if you play your cards right, perhaps you can get your brother to pitch in for it.

Good Luck.

Well i was about to do what you said.....but a freind lent me his copy...so I'll finish the game and give it back..
thanks anyway

Piracy is completely different from open-source. I love open-source. Piracy, though, I'm hesitant on. Often I'll see if I think a game's worth buying or not by downloading a copy of the game. If there were more shareware versions that were basically complete versions, but had some sort of timer on it, I'd rather do that. However, I understand the problems with the cracks and hacks that people do on those types of games.... Look at the plus side of open-source/gpl. It gives you more available money to buy legit versions of closed-source/propriety games/software.

If you purchased the game originally, then downloading the doom2 wad is not piracy, even if you use a peer-to-peer client to get it. As long as you keep the original it's no-harm-no-foul.

I know this runs counter to all the DMCA BS floating around in the States these days, but I doubt ID would disagree with me on this.

Don't be so sure. After all, a license is a license, and your ID license says nothing about downloads. Besides, most BSA actions take place outside of discussions with individual companies, meaning they might try to nail you even if ID doesn't care. Also, it might be hard to argue that your download is a form of backup, especially when they aren't the same product ID.

All in all, I guess my theory is this. Work with the publisher as best as you can. If the publisher seems to care less if you're a customer of theirs, then reevaluate if you want to be as well. In the old days, this used to work pretty well. You could make the best game in the world, but if you acted like jerks, few people would buy it, and you'd die. However, most people these days are cattle to software companies, and just do what they're told.

It's your choice, but the illegal option isn't really much of an option, if you think about it. It only promotes practices you despise in the first place.

Yes but if you read in your agreement you are allowed to make a backup copy for one and two if you cd or media is broken they are forced to replace it nothing they can do is on the warranty i had a version of need for speed hot pursuit 2 for game cube and I wanted the Pc version EA excenge it for £15 cause I didn't have the recipt if I had the recipt they would've excange it for free, by lending it your friend broke the agreement

What I was saying is this.

You would be downloading the exact same code as that which you paid for, therefore the license should apply to it as well. The license is for the use of the doom2 software. As you are only out to legally use the doom2 software you paid for, how on Earth can you be breaking the law?

If by some technicality you are breaking some legal clause in the EULA, is that really something to worry about? In the event ID or some pigopolist union went after you for it, do you think they would actually prosecute? If there is any justice left in this world then their case would be thrown out in a heartbeat.

Sorry, I get worked up over fair-use issues. :-) Our rights are disappearing fast enough without us helping them take them...

Yes you are absolutly right if you have the license and you download the program you're not breaking the law

merlin371>"Yes you are absolutly right if you have the license and you download the program you're not breaking the law"

I agree, at least in spirit, but spirit won't help you against people that want to strip you of all your rights. My simple argument is this, by "supporting" (even in the most tangent sense) anything pirate-related, we're killing ourselves. I don't agree at all that downloading a game/wad == the same thing as you bought. I do think that more companies need to honor their customers, instead of treating them like criminals.

All my point is, is this. If you can't get fair treatment from the company you do business with, don't do business with them. If it means you lose out on a good game, so what? There will be better ones in the future, and if more people stood by their rights and expectations of freedom, we wouldn't be in the crappy situation we're in.

It's your money, if you want to use it to get slammed from behind, be my guest. I'd rather spend mine on something I enjoy...

MMmmm, twinkies....

There's a slightly sick and twisted image in that reply.