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TigerLinux 07-08-2011 10:35 PM

Does Linux OS need Silverlight?
 
Does Linux OS need Silverlight?
In windows, sometimes it will prompt you to update Silverlight.

andrewthomas 07-08-2011 10:57 PM

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Originally Posted by TigerLinux (Post 4409459)
Does Linux OS need Silverlight?
In windows, sometimes it will prompt you to update Silverlight.

No.

But if you find yourself wanting to watch something that requires silverlight, there is an opensource project called moonlight that may be good enough at this point to work.

entz 07-09-2011 06:26 AM

the only time when i heard about Silverlight was some years ago on micro$soft.com as an advert ..

however i've never seen any website on the net using this piece of crap (by default anything that is produced my M$ is crap according to their historical track record) , bill baites and his evil crew have lost their grip on the web anyway.

TigerLinux 07-09-2011 07:42 AM

In linux, silverlight is equivalent to what?

MTK358 07-09-2011 07:43 AM

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Originally Posted by TigerLinux (Post 4409728)
In linux, silverlight is equivalent to what?

I don't understand.

TigerLinux 07-09-2011 07:52 AM

I mean Silverlight is needed in Windows Internet Explorer for certain video clips,
if u want to view the same video on the same website in Linux, what Addon do u need?

TobiSGD 07-09-2011 07:54 AM

Was already pointed out to you:
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But if you find yourself wanting to watch something that requires silverlight, there is an opensource project called moonlight that may be good enough at this point to work.

raevin 07-09-2011 08:12 AM

The thing is moonlight wont work for Netflix due to the DRM involved...at least thats what Ive heard, cant confirm nor deny this tho personally.

alexcg 07-11-2011 02:18 PM

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Originally Posted by entz (Post 4409683)
the only time when i heard about Silverlight was some years ago on micro$soft.com as an advert ..

however i've never seen any website on the net using this piece of crap

For example, for some unclear reason, the Stanford School of Engineering web site (that contains a lot of free video lectures) uses "this piece of crap" called Silverlight. Sad but true.

gael33 04-10-2013 05:42 AM

Silverlight is still relevant because it is still in use. Microsoft and Apple have it and I believe there is a Silverlight for Android. The question begs, why is there no Silverlight for Linux. Moonlight does not work with programs that require Silverlight, so once again Linux users are forced in some cases to splash out on Microsoft/Apple. I really dislike this situation.

sundialsvcs 04-10-2013 07:58 AM

Silverlight is a runtime package for Microsoft's "dot-Net" programming framework.

And, actually :eek: it's a pretty darned good idea. Instead of monkeying-around with Javascripts, they wrote a set of native programs to act as a known, operating-system agnostic client.

Microsoft's only problem, and it appears on a number of fronts, is that they senselessly ignore Linux. It's not that they can't produce for Linux: they can. (They also acknowledge OS/X, at least to some degree.)

This corporate blindness has cost them a great deal of money over the years, and I hope that they will one day figure out that "Windows®" is never going to be the entirety of their future, especially in the mobile space (which they IMHO completely missed .. swoosh).

gael33 04-10-2013 08:07 AM

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Originally Posted by sundialsvcs (Post 4928905)
Silverlight is a runtime package for Microsoft's "dot-Net" programming framework.

And, actually :eek: it's a pretty darned good idea. Instead of monkeying-around with Javascripts, they wrote a set of native programs to act as a known, operating-system agnostic client.

Microsoft's only problem, and it appears on a number of fronts, is that they senselessly ignore Linux. It's not that they can't produce for Linux: they can. (They also acknowledge OS/X, at least to some degree.)

This corporate blindness has cost them a great deal of money over the years, and I hope that they will one day figure out that "Windows®" is never going to be the entirety of their future, especially in the mobile space (which they IMHO completely missed .. swoosh).

Yes, I agree with what you say. I think that Microsoft's paranoia about sharing technology is one of the main reasons why people distrust and dislike them.

jens 04-10-2013 12:52 PM

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Originally Posted by andrewthomas (Post 4409471)
No.

There's at least one exception (... being so bad that it's both disturbing an laughable):

Try uploading your request for your Secure Boot stuff and you'll notice how it fully depends on
Silverlight.

dugan 04-10-2013 01:22 PM

Isn't it fairly well established that you can run Silverlight in Firefox in Wine, if you really want to?

jens 04-10-2013 02:02 PM

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Originally Posted by dugan (Post 4929146)
Isn't it fairly well established that you can run Silverlight in Firefox in Wine, if you really want to?

No.
Still no drm+many_other stuff (different libs).

TobiSGD 04-10-2013 03:32 PM

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Originally Posted by dugan (Post 4929146)
Isn't it fairly well established that you can run Silverlight in Firefox in Wine, if you really want to?

Isn't that what Netflix does for their "Linux support"?

dugan 04-10-2013 03:34 PM

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Originally Posted by TobiSGD (Post 4929261)
Isn't that what Netflix does for their "Linux support"?

That's what I was thinking of, yes.

frankbell 04-10-2013 09:52 PM

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Microsoft's only problem, and it appears on a number of fronts, is that they senselessly ignore Linux. It's not that they can't produce for Linux: they can. (They also acknowledge OS/X, at least to some degree.)
It may be senseless, but it is purposeful.

Microsoft does not so much ignore Linux as view Linux as a threat, likely because Linux is open. My own opinion is that they view Linux as a threat because that openness threatens their overall business model, as opposed to a fear that Linux threatens their market.

sundialsvcs 04-11-2013 09:06 AM

Since they have already lost their market to Linux, in the form of Android, as well as to iOS ... you would think that they would have taken a few lessons from Lou Gertsner (former chairman of IBM).

Microsoft's main strength, in my humble, is not "Windows®." There's not a lot of brand-name equity left there. This isn't to say that they won't continue to sell millions of licenses for a long time to come, but the days of banking on a proprietary, closed system are over and done.

Microsoft's ace-in-the-hole, to me, is Microsoft Office®. And various other system-administration and sharing technologies (SharePoint® ...) which are by-the-way extremely good. There is no fundamental reason why those technologies must be tied to "Windows." Get off the Titanic and hop on board the hovercraft that is parked conveniently nearby ... it's okay. Really.

I think it's long past time for their Board to make a strategic shift of direction, including selecting a new chief to replace Steve Ballmer. (Not for ANYthing negative against the guy, bombastic though he sometimes is. But, Microsoft needs some new ways of thinking at the top. The only "threat" which they face is their own refusal to embrace markets that don't center around their own, now long in the tooth, "PC" platform. And their stubborn expectation that "Surface" will amount to anything at all. They listen far too much to themselves.

TobiSGD 04-11-2013 09:31 AM

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Originally Posted by sundialsvcs (Post 4929749)
I think it's long past time for their Board to make a strategic shift of direction, including selecting a new chief to replace Steve Ballmer.

Sadly, this won't happen soon, since Ballmer is actively driving out anyone that could be dangerous to his position: http://uk.reuters.com/article/2013/0...90L04320130122

hilyard 04-11-2013 11:57 AM

RE: Mooonlight's non-funtionality

Has anyone tried removing the repo-installed moonlight, going to the moonlight site and installing from there?

This appears to work on my son's old Dell with Mint-14 KDE.

dugan 04-11-2013 01:52 PM

I'm starting to find it disingenious that Microsoft is framing Linux both as being too poor in quality to be worth wasting anyone's time with, and as an existential threat that will lead to an mass unemployment.

sundialsvcs 04-11-2013 08:08 PM

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Originally Posted by dugan (Post 4929899)
I'm starting to find it disingenuous that Microsoft is framing Linux both as being too poor in quality to be worth wasting anyone's time with, and as an existential threat that will lead to an mass unemployment.

... all of which is a perfectly silly position to anyone and everyone in the real-world (i.e. "get 'er done") software industry.

Microsoft Corporation is an extremely(!) well-respected player in the software industry ... from long before the time that the thought of "Windows" ever existed. If they are, officially, "carping about Linux," well, that makes no more sense than Wang Corporation "carping about WordStar."

The stated purpose of any .. and every .. corporation in the technology industry, is to continuously provide clients with what they actually want ... not to bitch at them (pardon..) for not wanting what you think they should want.

"Microsoft, get over it!" If your customers want to run "Microsoft Sharepoint" on ... Windows, OS/X, Linux, their (guess what, it's not Surface) phone ... enable them to do that! Take your millions-of-dollars and go home! And meanwhile, quit-yer-bitchin'! (You're embarrassing everybody!!)


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