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Old 11-12-2009, 10:29 AM   #16
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You buy the RIGHT to use Windows, you do not buy Windows. At any time they can decide to stop your Windows box and there's nothing you can do about it but complain. They hold all the keys and you simply pay a one time rental fee. You have no freedom over the OS other than what they allow. Microsoft isn't the only one who does this, its just a easy target to go at for software design like this.
True, but truly i do really what i want and ignore the EULA because its unbeliveable.
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In a number of ways, Vista repeats earlier Microsoft product releases. First comes the announcement of an upcoming revolution in operating system technology. Then, over a period of months or years, the original grand plans are abandoned piecemeal. The ship date slips off into the future. Then the product finally arrives and turns out to be an incremental update of the prior version, an example of evolution, not revolution.

But there is one difference — along with abandoning the primary design goals for the new Windows version, this time Microsoft has declared open war on its customers. There is a contract between Microsoft and its customers, a contract named the End User License Agreement (EULA3). It represents the formal mutual agreement between the seller and the buyer of Windows, and the new version is quite a read.

The new EULA is so restrictive that, in my opinion, people would refuse to buy Windows if they fully understood it. Here are some points from the small print:

1. A particular copy of Vista can only change hands once. After that, your expensive copy of Windows becomes a cup coaster, a reflective plastic bauble.

2. Users may only carry out a major system hardware upgrade (example: new motherboard), or migrate to a new computer, once. After that, they must buy a new copy of Windows (see updates below for a hasty revision to this condition).

3. As to the increasingly popular practice of "virtualization4", if you buy one of the consumer versions of Vista, Microsoft simply won't allow it to happen. To meet the terms of the EULA, Windows can't be a guest operating system, it must be the only operating system. Sounds like garden-variety narcissism to me.

4. According to the EULA, one can "use" but not "share" the Vista display's icons, images, sounds and media. No one seems to know what this means. Does it mean one cannot project the Vista display onto a screen in front of an audience? If so, this will seriously limit its usefulness to business professionals, or anyone foolish enough to purchase PowerPoint along with Vista.

5. This phrase leaps off the page: "You may not work around any technical limitations in the software." Again, no one really understands the intention behind this language, but in my view, this short sentence by itself is ample reason to avoid the entire Vista experience. I spend much of my time working around technical limitations in software, as do all computer science professionals. It appears the true intent of this clause is to turn Microsoft's customers into supplicant drones.

6. Moving beyond the pale, Microsoft has decided to control how computer professionals report Windows test results as a condition of their purchase of Vista. Put in everyday terms, in the new EULA, Microsoft asserts the right to control what people say about Windows in the press. Taken at face value, this means the only reason I can pen and publish this article and not hear from Microsoft's lawyers is because I avoid too much technical detail.

This is just a short sampling of the content of the new EULA, and prospective buyers should remember that Microsoft reportedly struggled to redefine the terms of the old, less restrictive, EULA after the fact. Also, there is an important legal principle here (IANAL5) that everyone needs to understand — regardless of the pure motives of the parties to a legal contract, the contract may contain "unconscionable" requirements, meaning requirements no reasonable or informed person would agree to if he grasped their meaning. Only time will tell whether this caveat applies to the Vista EULA.
Old 11-12-2009, 10:33 AM   #17
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That thing about you may not work around technical limitations is one of my favourites! I've blogged about that one here, I think...

To the OP. You did what was best for you to get the most out of your system. You did what was required to work around technical limitations, if you like. I don't think you sold out.
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Oh my... Its even worse than I thought! Well that explains why MS can claim that every IT person asked gives high praises of Windows 7... Because they can reject any negative opinions.

Now do they enforce this? One can only guess, but there wouldn't be much point in putting it int here if they wasn't huh?

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That thing about you may not work around technical limitations is one of my favourites! I've blogged about that one here, I think...

To the OP. You did what was best for you to get the most out of your system. You did what was required to work around technical limitations, if you like. I don't think you sold out.
MS still got some of my money though, just a little bit, whatever cedega pays. When you use wine for games, you need to install dx9.0c which of course is completely against Microsofts EULA included with that.

As far as reading the excerpts from the EULA, it really is amazing that they are able to get away with that. I would say that its amazing that they keep customers, but its really not.
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(Shrug...) "Tools for the job."

You want to do something that requires a computer. You buy (or put together) a system that is properly equipped ... hardware and software ... to do that "something," and then you proceed to do it. Really, there's nothing more to be said.

You can waste a lot of time trying to make "the wrong gear" do the right thing ... but why? Except as a school assignment, maybe. Otherwise, go for the shortest distance between two points. Play the game. Be happy.


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