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Old 10-12-2016, 11:20 PM   #106
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Amorality is the nature of man. If you doubt that, read the financial pages.

Virtue is a human construct which makes civilization possible. It is not god, but society, which necessitates virtue. (I highly recommend Durkheim's Elementary Forms of the Religious Life.) Nevertheless, I do find belief in a god in some form to be comforting, though I find myself haunted by the words of Gandhi.

Unwelcome behavior, in contrast, is a choice.
 
Old 10-13-2016, 03:56 AM   #107
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There's opinions and fact, sure if we'd only allow facts they'd seem robots but who are any of we to judge?
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Amorality is an absence of, indifference towards, or disregard for morality. Morality and amorality in humans and animals is a subject of dispute among scientists and philosophers. If morality is intrinsic to humanity, then amoral human beings either do not exist or are only deficiently human.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amorality
 
Old 10-13-2016, 07:03 AM   #108
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Hi...

Please see my post to frankbell concerning my thoughts on this point.

Regards...
The original post is talking about police not your beliefs. I don't parrot my beliefs at you or anyone, so respectfully don't inject your beliefs into non-related discussions.
 
Old 10-13-2016, 09:26 AM   #109
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Police are trained to always be in charge, can't do that without being a d!ck.
 
Old 10-13-2016, 12:21 PM   #110
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Police are trained to always be in charge, can't do that without being a d!ck.
That is very true, thanks!!
 
Old 10-14-2016, 09:16 AM   #111
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Not at all, it's completely valid and I reiterate my point: What if I asked all of you not to say things that I didn't like or disagreed with? mjolnir is correct, this is the General forum and open to all topics and statements. I don't see anywhere where religious posts or threads are "banned" in this particular forum.
"Not like" is far different than "off topic", which is what was said. Do you not understand the difference, or are you like many other 'religious' trolls on forums (bluegospel, anyone??), who think you magically get a free pass because you're talking about religion?
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What do you consider to be my agenda? If it's to share the Good News with others and to offer the truth on certain points of discussion, then yes, I am guilty.
"Good News" for YOU and what YOU BELIEVE...shoving it down someone elses throat when you weren't asked about it, and doing it off topic too, is the point. The "truth" you spout off about is one extraordinarily narrow view of it, based on YOUR beliefs.
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I don't consider it aggressive and while it's not my desire to antagonize you or the other who disagree with this form of witnessing, what about the others (new members or guests) who may need or want to hear the Gospel? It's kind of a fine line to try and negotiate but in any case, my freedom to post my thoughts shouldn't be restricted or removed just because you and others don't like hearing what I have to say.
Wrong. Again, since you are either ignoring what is said, or aren't bright enough to understand it, the point is THIS IS A TECHNICAL FORUM...the "general" forum HAS a place for those who 'need or want to hear' this crap. One huge thread where such things are discussed...THAT is where it goes, period.

Your 'freedom to post' goes exactly as far as the forum owner and rules SAY they do. Jeremy can tell you at any time to go away, ban you, or delete EVERYTHING you've ever posted. Make no mistake...this is not about 'free speech'; THAT involves the government restricting what you can say/print. This is a private forum...rules are different. Don't like it? There are plenty of other forums where you CAN go and shovel this stuff out all day long, and get a nice pat on the back for it. If anyone 'needs or wants' to read about it, I'm confident they can find THOSE forums with a Google search, and read about it all they want.
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In our society, meaning here in the United States, I would agree with you. This may not be the most effective way but it's one way that's available to reach out to folks.
...whether they want it or not, right??? Where is OUR choice in the matter? Seems like YOU want to post whatever you want, because YOU FEEL LIKE IT, because it's for 'our own good', right??? What about our rights to NOT have to listen to/read this? Or do we not get a say? And I'm positive you'd be on the vanguard of defending someone who was trying to post the 'good news' about Islam, Judaism, Hinduism, or any other religion that THEY feel is correct, right???? You'd certainly want to hear about it, wouldn't you????

Oh, that's right...it wouldn't be 'proper', then would it? You'd have to show them the REAL 'truth', whether they wanted to hear it or not, right? So you'd not accept/listen to THEIR beliefs, but expect everyone else to listen to YOURS????
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In this case, jamison20000e made a statement that I know is not the truth and I rebutted it. Because it has to do with God or Jesus Christ, it's automatically no longer valid?
It is not the truth, period. Try reading more than one actual book, and you'd be more equipped to have a conversation about the various factors that go in to making someone 'evil', as you term it. And if it's not too taxing, try to keep a second thought in your mind about these 'evil' deeds ARE...are they 'evil', or ILLEGAL? Are they done because the person is 'evil', or done because of their situations?
 
Old 10-14-2016, 02:48 PM   #112
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You are " guilty " until proven innocent; what do you think??

http://thefreethoughtproject.com/vid...ect+Newsletter
 
Old 10-18-2016, 02:03 PM   #113
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" Do Not Resist " when they invade!!

http://www.truthdig.com/arts_culture...ation_20161013
 
Old 10-18-2016, 03:13 PM   #114
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"With great power comes great responsibility."
If you wear a badge, you are given extraordinary social power, including the prerogative to use deadly force. But, all of your powers are limited by law, and any actual use of those powers will be investigated.

If you broke the law, or even just violated departmental procedure, you will be most-severely punished. Society has (or, should have ...) zero tolerance for abuse of police power. You can be found guilty of Murder or Manslaughter or Assault And Battery, etc., (at a trial by jury ...), and if convicted by that jury you will bear the penalty. The fact that you wore a badge, and therefore specifically betrayed the special trust that society placed in you in the committing of the crime for which you have now been duly convicted, will make that punishment much more severe.

These are the rules, and society's expectations and requirements, anywhere on Planet Earth. For police, for soldiers, for anyone who has been accorded these special powers. Zero Tolerance.

We understand that you are being called to perform an extremely dangerous duty to counter some extremely dangerous people who themselves bear no such scruples. We also know that you must make split-second decisions that may carry grave consequences. We have no illusions as to what you face, every single day, both on- and off-duty. We appreciate your service, your integrity and your bravery guts, even though we don't like to see blue lights in our rear-view mirror. We know that most of you are not "bad apples." Nevertheless, we will not tolerate any abuses.

If you can't take those ground-rules, don't wear a badge (or any sort of uniform). Go get some other job. Garbage-man, or something ...

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Old 10-20-2016, 02:18 PM   #115
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So today ( outside of the sickening presidential debate ) there were two stories that caught my eye!! One story was about two " heroes " that came to the aid of a woman being savagely raped:
http://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/...ailyNewsletter

The second story was about a mentally ill old woman being killed by a police officer:
http://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/...ailyNewsletter
 
Old 11-08-2016, 06:04 AM   #116
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For opposite reasons from Ardvark71's religion does fit in here, don't they swear in? Religion, just another form of http://www.linuxquestions.org/questi...ml#post5628167
 
  


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