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Old 04-14-2019, 06:24 PM   #1
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did "illegal function call" ever make you think the police were coming?


Funny story: When I was seven or eight years old (circa 1987), I saw a buggy text game on our first computer display this message.
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Illegal function call in module AMULET at address OBFB:4D06 [yes, I remember the address]
Hit any key to return to system
Since I had no idea what it was talking about, I thought that meant whatever I had done had made the computer call the police on me. (I didn't think to wonder how it would do that. Even if our new computer had been connected to a network, I hadn't heard of networks yet. Or programming.)

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Old 04-14-2019, 11:54 PM   #2
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Funny story: When I was seven or eight years old (circa 1987), I saw a buggy text game on our first computer display this message.
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Illegal function call in module AMULET at address OBFB:4D06 [yes, I remember the address]
Hit any key to return to system
Since I had no idea what it was talking about, I thought that meant whatever I had done had made the computer call the police on me. (I didn't think to wonder how it would do that. Even if our new computer had been connected to a network, I hadn't heard of networks yet. Or programming.)
No, I never thought that when seeing similar messages. Even when I had had little to no idea what the purpose of memory, etc was. I thought that such a message would have meant that, the program in question done something that was illegal in the computer's eye's.

I'll be sure to hide the evidence next though...

You and your post's ...
 
Old 04-15-2019, 08:58 PM   #3
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Ca. 1987 I already had three children. "Function call" had a somewhat different meaning.
 
Old 04-16-2019, 06:29 AM   #4
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I remember back in the days of mainframes reading an article for programmers about how to write error messages. The writer pointed out that error messages are an important part of the UI and that it is important to design them in such a way that they inform the users without frightening them. One of this writer's rules was never to use the word "illegal" because naive users wouldn't understand that this only meant "The computer doesn't like this". They would think they had done something that was, at the very least, against company rules. He didn't like "unacceptable" either, because he thought it would make the user feel bad about himself.
 
Old 04-16-2019, 09:02 PM   #5
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I remember back in the days of mainframes reading an article for programmers about how to write error messages.
Impressive. And good advice.

It's important to write to the audience. Too many persons who write tech stuff forget that their audience doesn't know as much as they do. If I write about Linux on my blog (which I do occasionally), I do not write the same way I do here, because I know my two or three regular readers know little about what goes on inside a computer and even less about Linux.

My favorite error message was one I occasionally saw in my Windows days on a software package I used to do support for:

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Error getting error about error.
What it meant was that the library of error messages for that particular software package did not have an appropriate error message for the error the software had encountered.
 
Old 04-16-2019, 10:11 PM   #6
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there was a time when I worked in a computer store when windows and apple where more competitive start ups then they are today. Windows had placed an image of the world on the desktop for access to the internet, and a trash can next to it.

One day an old lady came in and she was in a state of frantic. She came up to me and told me that she had just deleted the internet and was overly concerned asking me what to do?

I asked how did she delete the internet, that it was imposable to do.

She was convinced that she had delete the entire internet having placed the world into the trash can and now the internet was gone forever.

It took me awhile to convince her other wise.

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Old 04-17-2019, 01:37 AM   #7
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there was a time when I worked in a computer store when windows and apple where more competitive start ups then they are today. Windows had placed an image of the world on the desktop for access to the internet, and a trash can next to it.

One day an old lady came in and she was in a state of frantic. She came up to me and told me that she had just deleted the internet and was overly concerned asking me what to do?

I asked how did she delete the internet, that it was imposable to do.

She was convinced that she had delete the entire internet having placed the world into the trash can and now the internet was gone forever.

It took me awhile to convince her other wise.
a new "true story" about that banged up joke.
what a partykiller.

also, everybody knows that the internet isn't a globe but a little black box with a blinking red light.

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Old 04-17-2019, 02:01 AM   #8
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There's one message I have occasionally seen on Linux desktops which annoys me intensely. Usually Linux error messages are very informative, but this one just says "Oh no! Something has gone wrong!" What's that supposed to mean? What is the user supposed to do about it?
 
Old 04-17-2019, 02:06 AM   #9
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^ there's sites full of memes about that.
it's windowsitis and iositis taking hold of some linux desktop environments.
it's an abomination.
 
Old 04-17-2019, 07:28 AM   #10
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a new "true story" about that banged up joke.
what a partykiller.

also, everybody knows that the internet isn't a globe but a little black box with a blinking red light.
nope , that actually happened. it is a real true story not a made up one, and that is exactly what I had to explain to the old lady that was not in fear of trying out new technology without having the faintest idea of how it works.


oh ondoho and I thought I was the negative one. I guess you got me beat. sees truth as a lie. that is the party killer.

and obviously you are wrong in your last statement. "everybody knows that the internet isn't a globe but a little black box with a blinking red light" that is a very bold statement to pretend in your own mind that you are a god of some type that knows what everybody in the entire world knows, and goes through great lengths to dig up a youtube video to try and prove it.

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Old 04-17-2019, 07:50 AM   #11
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What about this error message: "Your mouse has stopped working. Click OK to continue"

Or “ERROR: Root device mounted successfully, but /sbin/init does not exist. Bailing out, you are on your own. Good luck.”, good luck indeed.

Apparently, you can get sudo to insult you, I should download Ubuntu

https://www.intertech.com/Blog/funny...rror-messages/

EDIT: Just found this: https://www.shortlist.com/tech/gadge...messages/15879

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Old 04-18-2019, 12:08 AM   #12
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and obviously you are wrong in your last statement. "everybody knows that the internet isn't a globe but a little black box with a blinking red light" that is a very bold statement to pretend in your own mind that you are a god of some type that knows what everybody in the entire world knows, and goes through great lengths to dig up a youtube video to try and prove it.
now that is subversive!
well played, bw-userx.
all my base belong to you.
/s
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Apparently, you can get sudo to insult you, I should download Ubuntu
i'm pretty sure that applies to sudo in general, not only ubuntu.
 
Old 04-18-2019, 01:11 AM   #13
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i'm pretty sure that applies to sudo in general, not only ubuntu.
I'm well aware of that ondoho, but without mentioning every single distro that uses sudo, then that's why I mentioned only Ubuntu. Rather than: "maybe I should download Ubuntu, Linux Mint, any other Ubuntu spin-offs, etc, etc, etc...
 
Old 04-18-2019, 05:15 AM   #14
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sudo is maintained and developed by Todd C Miller, an OpenBSD developer: https://www.sudo.ws/todd/

According to sudoers(5) man page, insults are off by default.

https://www.sudo.ws/man/1.8.27/sudoers.man.html

But in OpenBSDs sudoers(5) man page for 5.7-release (the last release before sudo was removed from base), insults are on as the default.

https://man.openbsd.org/OpenBSD-5.7/sudoers

The 'buntu usage/enforcement of sudo is absurd and always was.

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Old 04-18-2019, 07:45 AM   #15
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now that is subversive!
well played, bw-userx.
all my base belong to you.
/s

[....removed...]
nothing you have belongs to me. are you referencing this?

All your base are belong to us which is better demonstrated here

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