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Old 03-04-2023, 11:53 PM   #1
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Did Android annoy you ?


Yes very much to me ! here are the 2 most pain in the neck problem I have with Android.


1. The caching lag.


Whenever I shot a photo it didn't show up on the gallery, sometimes it took minutes to show up sometimes faster depends on the app to use. The worse thing with the lag was when I delete/rename/move the photo, the system said it's done but I still see it on the original folder, so that I do it again, but to find I deleted the photo together with the one after it, the action was cached and delayed seriously ! I tried many gallery apps even paid ones they behaved similarly, what the heck !!!


2. Write permission to external device.


When I write to SD/USB the system prompt for permission and I allowed it, but the system 'forget' that after some use and ask again and again very annoying. Even worse, some apps written without proper error detection will either ignore the error as done, or even crashed without any warning, any comment ?
 
Old 03-05-2023, 02:39 AM   #2
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No.
 
Old 03-05-2023, 07:38 AM   #3
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Old 03-05-2023, 09:02 AM   #4
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Not really. At the moment I own an iPhone, but, I've also used Droid. One thing I don't particularly like about Droid is the lack of software updates. Samsung offers four years of updates, but, a lot of other droid models offer two years of updates. Apple offers five years of updates.
 
Old 03-05-2023, 03:33 PM   #5
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Yes. Every single time I've tried to use the device as anything other than a simple dumb appliance (ie phone or book reader).
 
Old 03-05-2023, 08:51 PM   #6
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I have had Androids for years. I've got a lot of beefs about Google and its shenanigans, but I've not encountered any of the functionality issues mentioned by OP.

I have been able to copy files back and forth between my computer and my phones either directly or with Airdroid without issue, and photos show up in the gallery promptly. FBReader (my preferred ebook reader) also has worked very nicely for me on Androids.

Most of my phones have been HTCs, but my current one is an LG Stylo, as my carrier stopped carrying HTCs.

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Old 03-06-2023, 03:42 AM   #7
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Hard to believe I am alone with the problem, I used HTC for long time no less then 10 models started with Desire, due to some minor s/w glitch the company refused to fix I was forced to keep upgrading. Then later I switched to Samsung, I don't like it's "design language" I don't like the way it operates as much as I don't like Fujifilm cameras, no matter how good photos it took. I then switched to LG and what a relief ! I felt LG was smarter in every way, I still keep the V20 as backup after the company vanished in the cell phone business, it got a h/w problem that randomly reboot with big battery consumption (new battery) can not be used as my primary phone.

I did use other phones in between like Nokia, and less well known CAT running on more current version of Android also have the mentioned problem, but my V20 on Android 8 (last update) worked fine, so it's simply Android messing things up.
 
Old 03-06-2023, 08:26 PM   #8
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I can agree with you about the Samsung interface. My friend had a Samsung and, on the rare occasions that she asked me to help her figure something out, I ended up more confused than she was.

Now she's using iJunk, because her daughter bought it for her.
 
Old 03-06-2023, 08:53 PM   #9
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I tired Samsung and the amount of bloat was annoying, and they only offered 2 years of updates then.
Had a Pixel, and it started having battery swelling problems before support ended, so not worth the money to fix. The poor build quality and price also did not help with considering a new one.
Went with Blu for a bit, but no updates at all.
Last was Motorola, but American phones were not covered under the Android One program, so it did not get the upgrade to 11 and stopped getting security updates after 2 years despite the phone still working very well. (It is now used as an alarm clock)

My wife had an LG, but it did not get any updates since it was the unlocked model on a MVNO, not a carrier, and LG only supplies updates to carriers that only get applied to carrier locked versions. (tried using other sims to see if it would upgrade, but other then installing carrier apps, none of the available updates were offered.

I use my phone for too much stuff so I will not risk not having security updates, so went with iPhone. It has it's own annoyances, but I feel my data is more secure.
 
Old 03-07-2023, 01:53 AM   #10
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I have a Pixel 5 which I immediately rooted and installed a de-Googled system, named Calyx, before doing anything else. It is my first smartphone so I have troubles but they are due to my ignorance and lack of experience not to mention I despise tiny screens with onscreen keyboards. I suppose I've spent way too long on full-blooded PCs. I don't even rely on my laptop much for the same reason and it isn't even touchscreen.

That said, KDE Connect thankfully tethers that phone nicely to my PC so I haven't experienced inherent problems such as the lag and write permission problems reported by OP. One of these days I may figure out how to tether via USB instead of wifi which would make a tad happier, but my wifi is pretty well protected and I turn it off when not in use, so not a pressing issue.

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Old 03-07-2023, 02:04 AM   #11
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I tired Samsung and the amount of bloat was annoying, and they only offered 2 years of updates then.
Had a Pixel, and it started having battery swelling problems before support ended, so not worth the money to fix. The poor build quality and price also did not help with considering a new one.
Went with Blu for a bit, but no updates at all.
Last was Motorola, but American phones were not covered under the Android One program, so it did not get the upgrade to 11 and stopped getting security updates after 2 years despite the phone still working very well. (It is now used as an alarm clock)

My wife had an LG, but it did not get any updates since it was the unlocked model on a MVNO, not a carrier, and LG only supplies updates to carriers that only get applied to carrier locked versions. (tried using other sims to see if it would upgrade, but other then installing carrier apps, none of the available updates were offered.

I use my phone for too much stuff so I will not risk not having security updates, so went with iPhone. It has it's own annoyances, but I feel my data is more secure.

My friends are convincing me to the iPhone camp and I still refused, it's not only due to the cost but also the way iPhone works. I know and agreed iPhone has better security on system design and the apps are more reliable, it's because the OS is more restricted you can't do lot of things with it without jailbreak, where Android is "too open" and easier to get hacked. The first thing I don't like iPhone/iPad was and still is the unstoppable screen animation/transition effect, I really feel headache every time I use it, where on the Android I can and will disable all animation first thing I receive the phone, doing so also make the phone run little faster.


I use my phone/tablet for most daily task, including some networking stuffs, I can easily hook up a Lan adapter to my tablet to configure the router for example, I don't know how to do it with the iPad. As far as my experience goes, I find iPhone/iPad is good for average users where Android is good for users that need to do more than taking photos and facebook...etc.
 
Old 03-07-2023, 07:25 AM   #12
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Regarding the first point, I had such problems due to a lack of memory.
It only asks for permission when I download new apps.
So it doesn't annoy me at all.
 
Old 03-09-2023, 09:04 AM   #13
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Thumbs up AOSP GrapheneOS

Have been using AOSP GrapheneOS for years on a used Pixel 3a
As endorsed by NSA whistleblower Ed Snowden.
Charlie Osborne of ZDNet suggested that individuals who suspect a Pegasus infection use a secondary device with GrapheneOS for secure communication.

ps: Still getting regular system and app updates

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Old 03-09-2023, 11:43 AM   #14
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I've always had android and I have used lineageos for some years. My wife has an ancient wilyfox swift. Its on lineage 17.1 (android 10) and she's perfectly happy. She's a little hard of hearing and the bluetooth works perfectly for her. Google provides security updates every month so can keep her upto date security-wise, any way.
My phone is now on lineage 20 (android 13) and I can keep that upto date with each monthly security and other updates that lineage provides (somtimes every week!)
And, incidentally, lineage builds start with opensource aosp so you need very little or none of google bloat.

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Old 03-09-2023, 03:29 PM   #15
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Yes, no easy path to root so you are stuck being a victim.
 
  


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