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Old 08-15-2023, 11:59 AM   #31
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I don't think it is a personal attack or off topic. What might be off topic is a Science denier on a science thread. Everything I've stated in this thread is a matter of record on LQN, most, in your own words.

FWIW I DID and DO attack The Discovery Institute and affiliates because they deserve it as determined in a US court of law.

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Old 08-15-2023, 02:37 PM   #32
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Business_Kid I have to agree with enorbet on this. He described your postings in a reasonable way that I easily recognized as characteristic of your comments, that is not a personal attack. You might disagree with him on some points (and have every right to your opinion) but to characterize it as a personal attack is not supported by the evidence available in the thread. If I consider that accusation an overreaction, you are also welcome to disagree.

Point: several people have offered evidence or method related to the science involved, or commented directly on the meaning and limitations of the new data without expressing doubt about the value or potential value. You seem to doubt the value of any new information. If the source of your doubt is NOT religion based, you have failed to express the source of your opinions adequately. Would you care to consider your base assumptions and the source of your doubt and elucidate for us?

Note that such a discussion involves the evaluation of the new data and would thus be considered related directly to the topic.

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Old 04-23-2024, 07:36 AM   #33
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"The most surprising revelation from NASAís Curiosity Mars Rover ó that methane is seeping from the surface of Gale Crater ó has scientists scratching their heads.

Living creatures produce most of the methane on Earth. But scientists havenít found convincing signs of current or ancient life on Mars, and thus didnít expect to find methane there. Yet, the portable chemistry lab aboard Curiosity, known as SAM, or Sample Analysis at Mars, has continually sniffed out traces of the gas near the surface of Gale Crater, the only place on the surface of Mars where methane has been detected thus far. Its likely source, scientists assume, are geological mechanisms that involve water and rocks deep underground.

If that were the whole story, things would be easy. However, SAM has found that methane behaves in unexpected ways in Gale Crater. It appears at night and disappears during the day. It fluctuates seasonally, and sometimes spikes to levels 40 times higher than usual. Surprisingly, the methane also isnít accumulating in the atmosphere: ESAís (the European Space Agency) ExoMars Trace Gas Orbiter, sent to Mars specifically to study the gas in the atmosphere, has detected no methane." https://science.nasa.gov/solar-syste...ave-new-ideas/
 
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Thanks for the above reply, mjolnir. We humans are "babes in the woods" but we are growing up pretty rapidly. Man! I'd love to know we've discovered extraterrestrial life before I die! Hurry up Guys!
 
Old 04-23-2024, 11:27 AM   #35
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Thanks for the above reply, mjolnir. We humans are "babes in the woods" but we are growing up pretty rapidly. Man! I'd love to know we've discovered extraterrestrial life before I die! Hurry up Guys!
I agree. Lots of mysteries in this old World. It ssems that every partial answer opens up 10 more questions!
 
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It needs investigation, but the sources may be natural non-organic. There are gas giants that are mostly methane, it is a relatively simple molecule and occurs naturally throughout the universe. The question then is how does it come to be THERE?
 
  


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