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ntubski 04-20-2021 07:40 AM

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Originally Posted by business_kid (Post 6242698)
this, which is a well argued, well documented case against.

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Originally Posted by business_kid (Post 6242986)
that article (which wasn't great, imho)

Huh? That looks like two contradictory opinions.

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Originally Posted by hazel (Post 6242982)
The worst of the current vaccines in use is the Chinese one. It hardly scores better than chance.

Obviously you'd want a higher level of protection if possible, but I don't think the comparison to a coin flip makes any sense.

Lysander666 04-20-2021 07:49 AM

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Originally Posted by ntubski (Post 6243023)
Huh? That looks like two contradictory opinions.



Obviously you'd want a higher level of protection if possible, but I don't think the comparison to a coin flip makes any sense.


3% efficacy after one dose, as opposed to around 85% after one dose of the Pfizer, is just ridiculously low.

56% two weeks after the second dose is still pretty damn poor.

https://www.bmj.com/content/373/bmj.n969

business_kid 04-20-2021 11:06 AM

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Originally Posted by ntubski
Huh? That looks like two contradictory opinions.

Agreed; it's not much use to you that I knew what I was talking about. I just failed to get it across.

I thought the written article was average and stretched out a bit. But Geert Van Den Bossche's interview (linked from point #17 in the article) was revealing, insightful and raised several interesting points.

Does that clear things up?

jmgibson1981 04-20-2021 02:39 PM

Swore up and down i didnt want to get the vaccine. Scared of something made so quick. But with my wifes health issues, both our families... better safe than sorry.


That being said here in AZ they using some vsafe program to check up on you. Its optional. I got my first notification to give my vaccine feedback I guess. Clicked and hit with an Oracle error screen. I laughed good at that one. They seem to screw everything they touch.

ntubski 04-20-2021 04:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Lysander666 (Post 6243025)
3% efficacy after one dose, as opposed to around 85% after one dose of the Pfizer, is just ridiculously low.

No need to compare with Pfizer; I'd say %3 is probably indistinguishable from 0.

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Originally Posted by business_kid (Post 6243087)
But Geert Van Den Bossche's interview (linked from point #17 in the article) was revealing, insightful and raised several interesting points.

Does that clear things up?

Yup, fair enough.

teckk 04-21-2021 08:38 AM

Fake shots
https://www.wsj.com/articles/pfizer-...nd-11619006403

Lysander666 04-21-2021 08:42 AM

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Originally Posted by teckk (Post 6243358)

It's not as good as this:

https://www.southwarknews.co.uk/news...navirus-probe/

hazel 04-21-2021 08:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Lysander666 (Post 6243359)
It's not as good as this:

Hilarious!

teckk 04-21-2021 09:00 AM

India hit bad
https://www.cnn.com/2021/04/21/india...hnk/index.html

BV-1 strain
https://www.jpost.com/health-science...ibodies-665836

Super Mutant
https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/146676...-covid-strain/

business_kid 04-21-2021 11:54 AM

Interesting on the mutants... Funny but sad at the same time about the fakes. All today's criminals seem to wash even behind their ears:rolleyes: But you never enjoy watching a fool and his money being parted.

This rise in mutants was one of the concerns of Geert Vanden Bossche. He feels releasing vaccines in the midst of a pandemic will put great pressure on the virus to mutate.

////// 04-28-2021 06:34 AM

just came from vaccination center, took first shot, no sore arm or anything like that.

michaelk 04-28-2021 07:09 AM

My arm did not hurt until the next day but really no different then a flu shot.
Response seems to depend on age but most seem to have more side affects witb the second dose.

////// 04-28-2021 07:11 AM

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Originally Posted by michaelk (Post 6245827)
... but most seem to have more side affects witb the second dose.

thanks for letting me know, didnt know that.

teckk 04-28-2021 07:37 AM

I think that this 2 part documentary was a little bit slow and draggy for "Frontline". But, here it is for anyone who wants to watch it.

Frontline The Virus That Shook the World, Part 1
https://www.pbs.org/video/the-virus-...rt-one-n5mhte/
Code:

https://ga.video.cdn.pbs.org/videos/frontline/f60b986d-98ed-4ef5-89ae\
-13b555e26bd1/2000231937/hd-16x9-mezzanine-1080p/00003912-hls-16x9-1080p.m3u8

Frontline The Virus That Shook the World, Part 2
https://www.pbs.org/video/the-virus-...rt-two-czxu6n/
Code:

https://ga.video.cdn.pbs.org/videos/frontline/3c6c6ec1-9f19-48ad-afdc\
-83439aca7b4a/2000231938/hd-16x9-mezzanine-1080p/00003913-hls-16x9-1080p.m3u8

Info for 3000k:
Code:

a="https://ga.video.cdn.pbs.org/videos/frontline/f60b986d-98ed-4ef5-89ae-13b555e26bd1\
/2000231937/hd-16x9-mezzanine-1080p/00003912-mp4-720p-3000k.mp4"

wget --spider "$a"
Spider mode enabled. Check if remote file exists.
--2021-04-28 07:32:18--  https://ga.video.cdn.pbs.org/videos/frontline/f60b986d-98ed-4ef5-89ae-13b555e26bd1/2000231937/hd-16x9-mezzanine-1080p/00003912-mp4-720p-3000k.mp4
Loaded CA certificate '/etc/ssl/certs/ca-certificates.crt'
Resolving ga.video.cdn.pbs.org (ga.video.cdn.pbs.org)... 52.85.79.55, 52.85.79.51, 52.85.79.101, ...
Connecting to ga.video.cdn.pbs.org (ga.video.cdn.pbs.org)|52.85.79.55|:443... connected.
HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 200 OK
Length: 2773233561 (2.6G) [video/mp4]
Remote file exists.


business_kid 04-28-2021 08:34 AM

Thanks teckk.

I've come to expect slow and draggy from PBS. Even Netflix does better. Irish/English documentaries beat the pants off them interest wise, but not necessarily subject wise. That would be 60 minutes or less here. They did a few 30-40 minute shows during the year looking inside hospitals and Covid wards when things were bad here. You should look for 'Prime Time Investigates' on RTE. They currently pass for documentaries here.

On the Info for 3000K: Why 'wget --spider', which just checks if the file exists? Surely wget <file> errors if it doesn't. Isn't that the same thing?


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