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Old 01-17-2018, 01:35 PM   #1
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Comments on: Google offers free *ENTRY-level* IT training [== a job???]


I just saw this when I simply went to Google.com
https://blog.google/topics/grow-with...al-certificate

Total beginners get IT ["support"] job in 1 year.
Easy? For certain? Then qualified? Comments/thoughts?
 
Old 01-17-2018, 01:37 PM   #2
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I'd love to work for Google, they can call me anytime!! Best working conditions out!
 
Old 01-17-2018, 03:51 PM   #3
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Meh ... I was in Silicon Valley just as the last plum-trees were being chopped down. I saw the Cali Brothers Feed Store just before it was demolished to make room for yet-another Apple building. (It's called "Cali Square" now, complete with a little picture of that feed-mill.)

There is only one tiny, tiny section of the old agricultural town (farther up Stevens Creek Boulevard heading into the hills) but I'm sure it won't last much longer.

Everybody thinks they want to live there, and to gladly work in a "mega-plex" which historians very-accurately identified as the modern-day equivalent of company towns. But, the only ones who are getting rich there now are the landlords.

I've been there since, doing the occasional project for Apple, and I've just got to say, "you need to hang out in the parking lot on Mondays and Tuesdays." Mondays are where the contractors come in for their first day at work ... by the bus-load ... most of them non-immigrant visa holders. Tuesdays are where the FTEs come in for their first day at work. And, every single week, they come pouring in, pouring in. It's quite the sight to see. (Where do all these people come from?)

And there are more ways to be parted with your money than you can shake a stick at. But, people who live there are generally young and have lots of money and really don't mind parting with it. I was the one who came in every day with a lunch-box and a Thermos full of my own coffee. They asked to inspect it for the first few days before they caught on.

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Old 01-17-2018, 09:39 PM   #4
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Total beginners get IT ["support"] job in 1 year.
Easy? For certain? Then qualified? Comments/thoughts?
Nothing is for certain, and you seem to have slightly misread the article:
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With no previous experience required, beginning learners can become entry-level job ready in eight to 12 months.
entry-level job ready != job
 
Old 01-18-2018, 03:11 AM   #5
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knowing google, i'd be very skeptical about their definition of "free".
http://dt.iki.fi/stuff/free-model.jpg
 
Old 01-18-2018, 06:34 AM   #6
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knowing google, i'd be very skeptical about their definition of "free".
Only the OP says free, the actual article says:

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To ensure job seekers from all backgrounds have access to the program, we’re subsidizing the cost of the certificate on Coursera to $49/month and providing financial support to more than 10,000 learners in the United States.
 
Old 01-18-2018, 09:13 AM   #7
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Also, an entire new generation of Americans are opting not to pursue a college education, to avoid taking on hundreds of thousands of dollars in student-loan debts.

The cost of a 4-year degree at the public University that I attended decades ago has just this year topped half-a-million dollars, according to their own web site. In my time, it cost an in-state student about $2,000 and there were plenty of scholarships. America today does not want its young people to receive college education, and they're well on their way to giving them a high-school diploma that they can't read. (But they were not "left behind.")

(You may have noticed that some stores are removing words from their logos: Starbucks did it, so did Chili's restaurants. Illiterate people might be confused by words they can't read, but they can recognize the symbol and associate it with food, clothing or coffee. You will also notice that the employees are trained to take orders from customers who can't read the menu. Grocery stores will print your check so that you don't have to fill it out, just in case you don't know how.)

Silicon Valley isn't concerned about that: they simply "import" college-educated indentured servants for 2/4/6 years under "non-immigrant visa" programs, then throw them back to wherever they came from and bring in some more. Because, you know, "the best and the brightest™" don't come from America. (Plus you have to pay employment taxes, social security and so forth. The non-immigrants are officially employees of non-American corporations. Plus, they'll never leave you because you own their indenture you are their "sponsor."

But, what to do with a new crop of un-educated Americans? Give 'em entry level jobs so they can make coffee and carry boxes of paper for the "smart people from somewhere – anywhere – else."

- - - - -
Crazy as what I just said may sound, this is what the new crop of industrialists is up to: they've found a way around the 13th Amendment, at least for a while. "The Peculiar Institution" is, in fact, alive and well in 21st-Century America.

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Old 01-18-2018, 11:43 AM   #8
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It IS Convict, not "inmate".

Apple is doing the same thing with its "Everyone Can Code" initiative.

Me? I applied once (as did likely 100k)

"Free"?
"To ensure job seekers from all backgrounds have access to the program, we’re subsidizing the cost of the certificate on Coursera to $49/month and providing financial support to more than 10,000 learners in the United States. Need-based scholarships, funded by Google.org grants, will be offered through leading nonprofits focused on underrepresented communities including Year Up, Per Scholas, Goodwill, Student Veterans of America, and Upwardly Global. Full financial assistance is also available to those who qualify." [*]

Natalie Van Kleef Conley says " But I knew that candidates didn't need traditional four-year college degrees to be qualified—and also found that IT was very teachable." which gave me a chuckle.
IT is "non-tradional", and oh-so-teachable, ... to some.

Entry Level is where we get experience. At least I did at MBE Corporate in 1994, just barely out of a "program" the State of California paid for.
65 students started the program, (not all were convicts) less than 20 graduated the 9 month College Certificate Program.
24 years later...

And I am grateful for "Iniatives" and "Programs".

Hell, they're even teaching Convicts "how to code" in the The Last Mile Program
Nod to The Q

Looks more like "at no cost to you" and it catches a lot more "attention"

Peace

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Old 01-18-2018, 07:08 PM   #9
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Hmmm... Maybe I shouldn't complain!

After all, as a professional software consultant with (now) more than 35 years' experience, I rely on other people to screw things up.

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Originally Posted by John Ruskin:
There is scarcely anything in the world that some man cannot make a little worse, and sell a little more cheaply. The person who buys on price alone is this man's lawful prey.
 
  


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