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Old 07-20-2004, 10:19 PM   #31
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Come on whats the difference if you carry a credit card in your wallet or its subdermally implanted in your forearm so you can just swipe your arm over the couter when you buy something or swipe your arm at the gas station. There might be lawsuits due to an increase in pulled arm muscles but it might be worth the conenience. LMAO
 
Old 07-20-2004, 11:08 PM   #32
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the difference is that a two thousand year old prophecy does NOT say
"and he causes all both great and small to carry a plastic card in their wallet that without it no one may buy or sell"

nor does it say

"and anyone who takes the plastic card will be thrown into a lake of fire"

but it does say both about some kind of mark, that by implication is tied up some how with buying and selling
 
Old 10-22-2004, 08:02 AM   #33
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The chip for one and for all (or "the mark of the beast" to some) thunders closer with another step:

"American Passports to Get Chipped" (article at wired.com dated 10-21-2004)

The above linked article was also referenced in the Slashdot.org article and discussion entitled "American Passports to Have RFID Chips".

There's also an interesting article "RFID Passports" from the Crypto-Gram Newsletter dated 10-15-2004

In The Register's article "US lubes passports with RFID snake oil" the mark of the beast is mentioned.

Here's an additional article from another site.

Last edited by furfurdemon666; 10-22-2004 at 08:03 AM.
 
Old 10-24-2004, 02:24 AM   #34
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May I point something out that seems too often overlooked ...
as was quoted by furfurdemon666 from the Bible above - the number Six hundred and sixty six is the number of the man not the beast. The prophet is telling people to work out the number of the beast, if the beast's number was six hundred etc etc then he wouldn't need to tell us to work it out - would he.

I have been involved with search & rescue here in Australia, and Police can zero in on your mobile phone to within metres / yards if they so choose and the technology has been used in drug busts in multi story buildings where the crims are upstairs somewhere.

We used it successfully in a search for a runaway who forgot to turn of the mobile.

you can run but never hide !
( twilight-zone music begins to play )

floppy
 
Old 10-24-2004, 03:28 AM   #35
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I have to throw this in...lol...I am not for the chips and I am not saying that b/c or religious beliefs either. Think about this. Microsoft heading the project (might be possible), and since I am not equipped with ctrl+alt+del, makes me wonder where I will have to stick a network cable when my arm freezes in order to hit ctrl+alt+del....SCARY!

LOL
 
Old 11-01-2004, 02:01 AM   #36
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great, so before, if sombody wanted to steal my identity, they would have to get my social and birthday. Now, all they have to do is kill me and steal my chip, and hide my body well.


wtf, great idea. You think the bad guys wont find ways around it anyway? It might stop the redneck pedifiles, but terrorists are too creative for that to really hurt them.


Lets replace common sense and personal security with computerised crap that can be tricked and hacked.
 
Old 11-14-2004, 03:35 PM   #37
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Please don't belive that what I'm writing here is the truth!
THINK FOR YOURSELF!
This represents only MY personal view of the things.

facts:
-the memory center is situated somewhere in the front part of the brain (as far as I know)
-In the Holly Bible Apocalyps, Cap.13 /17,18 stands that the number of the beast will:
-be writen on the forehead or on the right hand
-will be used to buy or sel things
-will be a number of a human (sth. like PIN personal id number)
So, as far as I can tell a credit card has 2 numbers: one that is memorised (put on to the forehead) and one that is at hand. Both those numbres create a unique number for each individual.

... and something else: if someone uses an ATM the credit card bay is on the right side of the customer, so... the number is in the right hand of the human and on the forehead the PIN (in memory)
q: What if I'm right and the credit card + pin is the number of the beast???
a: Those who wear it will pay dearly.



Me


P.S. I sincerley hope that I'm wrong about this mater.
 
Old 11-14-2004, 04:35 PM   #38
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Fortunately for all of us ATM users, having a number in your memory is not the same as having it written on your forehead or right hand.
 
Old 11-15-2004, 12:56 AM   #39
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yupp

When it comes, as come it will, it will be a system that "without which you may not buy or sell".
I don't have any plastic cards, so don't use cash points. Yet still I can buy and sell.
Thus, the anticipated system has not yet arrived.

Don't be too eager, it's gonna be real crappy on earth in those days.
 
Old 11-15-2004, 07:37 AM   #40
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Re: "Club-goers in Spain get implanted chips for ID, payment purposes"

Quote:
Originally posted by furfurdemon666
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Club-goers in Spain get implanted chips for ID, payment purposes"[1]

"Like a scene out of a science-fiction movie, all it takes is a syringe-injected microchip implant for the beautiful men and women of the nightclub scene to breeze past a "reader" that recognizes their identity, credit balance and even automatically opens doors to exclusive areas of the club for them."[1]
a simple finger print or retina scanner could do the same job.
 
Old 11-15-2004, 02:56 PM   #41
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Salparadise, I don't know what country you're living in, but here, in Romania the things are evolving quite fast toward the compulsory use of credit cards. For example here where I'm working there are really few persons that receive the salary in cash (including me). The personnel here pressures us to get a credit cards because they want to work less (they even gave me some forms from 2 different banks).
At the factories, as far as I know, the workers are payed here mostly by credit cards.
So, no cc->no work (who would hire someone with "strange" ideas)->no salary
As far as I can see into the future (and I can't) I'll say that in 2-3years or less all the wages will be payed by cc and in less than 13 years some law will appear that will make it impossible to buy anything without a cc.
 
Old 11-15-2004, 03:18 PM   #42
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I have been involved with search & rescue here in Australia, and Police can zero in on your mobile phone to within metres / yards if they so choose and the technology has been used in drug busts in multi story buildings where the crims are upstairs somewhere.

We used it successfully in a search for a runaway who forgot to turn of the mobile.
floppywhopper: Is this technology satellite based or cell phone tower based?
In other words how do they use your mobile phone to find you?
 
Old 11-15-2004, 04:42 PM   #43
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I live in England and we are suspicious and reluctant to embrace such things especially if they are presented as "no choice" solutions.
I speak with only a little "tongue in cheek."
 
Old 11-16-2004, 10:26 AM   #44
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"RFID Labels On Prescription Drug Bottles" (Slashdot article & Discussion)

""The New York Times is reporting that the Food and Drug Administration and
several major drug makers are expected to announce an agreement Monday to
put tiny radio antennas on the labels of millions of medicine bottles to
combat counterfeiting and fraud. RFID labels provide a unique identifier
that is almost impossible to copy. When pharmacists receive delivery, they
should be able to pass a wand over the bottles and, through an online
database, check the history of each. Each label costs 20 to 50 cents.""

The mark of the beast plot thickens...

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Old 11-16-2004, 07:33 PM   #45
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Oh dear, God forbid if any one of those bottles went missing and no one paid attention.
 
  


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