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Old 04-24-2004, 05:12 AM   #1
furfurdemon666
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Smile "Club-goers in Spain get implanted chips for ID, payment purposes"


While everyone's talking politics and Iraq, the mark of the beast .... I mean the implanted chip gains even more ground:

"Paying for drinks with wave of the hand
Club-goers in Spain get implanted chips for ID, payment purposes"[1]

"Like a scene out of a science-fiction movie, all it takes is a syringe-injected microchip implant for the beautiful men and women of the nightclub scene to breeze past a "reader" that recognizes their identity, credit balance and even automatically opens doors to exclusive areas of the club for them."[1]

Wow. So like, let's make it cool to use dude. Like, people are into the Matrix and all sorts of piercings and stuff, you know, it's like cool dude.. so they'll think this microchip is cool and easy to use, and hey, doesn't it work with the internet somehow? Everyone's pluggin into the net these days. <--- this sounds like what's happening.

Science Fiction movie? Try the Bible! LOL! I'm sure I don't have to quote the famous verse(s) that talk of the mark of the beast: 666. And before you reply, I'm not a Christian but I find the possible connections interesting. All one has to do is search Google for: revelation mark of the beast and up pops tons of fanatical sites warning of this chip, rfid, etc. comparing them to the mark of the beast. I'm not interested in the biblical salvation urgings on these websites, but what if this message, no matter how old it may be, is true? And aside from that, what are the privacy implications in this new chip technology?

It's interesting to note: "Five years ago, a Chicago Tribune writer held that implantable chips were "long a popular delusion among paranoids" but he nevertheless predicted they were "likely to be marketed as a consumer item early in the next century." That prediction is now true. The chips are real, they're here to stay, and they're coming soon to a syringe near you.Welcome to the future." ""It will be interesting to see public reaction to this technology comparisons to Orwell's 1984 and even the Nazis seem obvious.""[2]

And a final quote for this post: "Several privacy and civil liberties groups have recently called for a voluntary moratorium on RFID tagging "until a formal technology assessment process involving all stakeholders, including consumers, can take place." Signatories to the petition include the American Civil Liberties Union, the Electronic Frontier Foundation, the Electronic Privacy Information Center, Privacy International and the Foundation for Information Policy Research, a British think tank."[3]

Here are some interesting articles to read on this subject.

"Post-9/11 security fears usher in subdermal chips VeriChip recipients can be ID'd, monitored anywhere in the world"

"GPS implant makes debut Company field-tests prototype used to track movements of human host"

"Miami journalist gets 'chipped' Implantable-ID company puts product into science writer"

"Bio-chip implant arrives for cashless transactions Announcement at global security confab unveils syringe-injectable ID microchip"

"Revelation about 'Digital Angels'" -- mark of the beast and Revelation 13: 16-18 quoted within this article - but please note that I am not a Christian nor do I endorse the author's particular Christian viewpoints, just posting this here because it mentions the chip and the possible connection to the mark of the beast, and more.

Meet the 'Digital Angel' -- from Hell"

"Big Brother gets under your skin Ultimate ID badge, transceiver implanted in humans monitored by GPS satellites"

"Do you wear the mark Do you wear the mark Darling, darling Do you wear the mark" -- from "Do you Wear The Mark" by Danzig

Marks of beasts or technological revolutions, will you wear such a mark?

Quote sources: [1] [2] [3] [4]

Edit: I just have to add this quote for you to consider:

"Editor's note: After WorldNetDaily first publicized the "Digital Angel" a sophisticated miniaturized tracking device intended for subdermal implantation in large numbers of human beings the manufacturer, Applied Digital Solutions, took cover. Under criticism by privacy advocates, as well as Christians concerned over the biblically prophesized "mark of the beast," the Nasdaq-traded company removed all references to human implantation from its website. Its CEO claimed publicly that there were "no plans" to make the technology implantable, but rather for the user to "wear" the device outside his body, say, on a wristwatch.

Then came Sept. 11, and the resulting urgent national drive to increase America's homeland security. And in this new climate of fear, in which many Americans are susceptible to valuing safety over freedom, security over privacy, the company has found its golden opportunity to re-introduce the subdermal microchip implant it had previously deemed too hot for the American public to handle."[4]

What if Satan had a website?

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Old 04-24-2004, 06:59 AM   #2
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it starts as a method for tracking merchandise amd pets

then some will (as your story says) use it for ease of use

then it will occur to people that as a way of controlling immigration and missing children it is second to none
on these grounds it will creep and creep unitl it's everywhere

eventually it will become compulsory, across the whole world
but we are a way off that stage just yet
(what about the nomadic tribes, the tribes in the various jungles)
the Bible says "and he causes ALL to receive a mark" not just some

I am a Christian and I do see it as a possible candidate for the mark of the beast

when/if it gets to the stage where you have to have one in order to buy or sell (for that is the biblical condition - that no one can buy or sell without the mark) then I will know that revelation is happening in the here and now

and no
I will never take the mark

and I will hold off being involved in any such scheme until I can see it definitely is or isn't THE mark

see Revelation 13 v16-17 for exact scripture

and John 3 v16 for escape route


blessings and peace
 
Old 04-24-2004, 11:46 AM   #3
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Haven't you heard? It's a completely different world since 9/11. The whole planet miraculously changed overnight. Gone are the days of naive innocence when freedom reigned supreme. Security is now paramount.
 
Old 04-24-2004, 11:59 AM   #4
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It's frightening to me because, people are doing it voluntarily.
 
Old 04-24-2004, 01:23 PM   #5
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I think the GPS chip would be a good thing for sickos like pedofiles
so that if one of those things went near a school or day care center an alarm could go off
and the thing could be tracked at all times so that it would know that if it did anything sick it would be caught

( better yet just kill the d?nm things )
 
Old 04-24-2004, 05:12 PM   #6
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But you have 666 at the end of your user name.........And you see the similarities...
OK, I'm confused. Help me understand, man, this is not a flame....


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and John 3 v16 for escape route
Nice, salsaparadice, I think our friend would benifit greatly reading from the Word.
RANDON
 
Old 04-24-2004, 06:34 PM   #7
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Big Brother makes strange bedfellows.

Biblical strict constructionists in lockstep with civil libertarians.

EZpass is about as far as I would go - I'm not real happy about the GPS in my cell phone.
 
Old 04-24-2004, 09:30 PM   #8
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Quote:
Originally posted by rob.rice
I think the GPS chip would be a good thing for sickos like pedofiles
so that if one of those things went near a school or day care center an alarm could go off
and the thing could be tracked at all times so that it would know that if it did anything sick it would be caught

( better yet just kill the d?nm things )

I agree with the exception that right after the alarm went off a small explosive would go off and blow off thier head.
 
Old 04-24-2004, 09:57 PM   #9
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I like the "What if satan had a website" link. It takes you to the company that makes the implants, LOL
 
Old 04-24-2004, 10:50 PM   #10
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I'm quite sure I believe the implant idea is just daft!
 
Old 04-24-2004, 11:24 PM   #11
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Wouldn't that hurt <doesn't even like injections>

Its a good idea for my dog though. I don't know what I'd do if a lost her!
 
Old 04-25-2004, 01:29 AM   #12
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I don't really see a problem with these implants, granted I'm not Christian and don't buy into that mark of the beast stuff. I really see no problems with it being employed.
Higher security, possible distraction for crime and just so much easier than opening your damn wallet all the time. Though I draw the line when it comes to GPS, I think it should be just as easy to track someone's last movements via similar methods employed by the police.
 
Old 04-25-2004, 01:51 AM   #13
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the point is that 2000 years ago a man prophecied that there would be a global system in place that caused everyone to have a mark in the palm of their right hand or on the forehead "without which they could not buy or sell"

this MIGHT be the beginning of that system
or at least, represents a technology that could be used in that way
(whether or not it's happening now, or not due for another few hundred years)

here's another couple of pointers for you

Daniel 12:4
But thou, O Daniel, shut up the words, and seal the book, even to the time of the end: many shall run to and fro, and knowledge shall be increased.

A resaonably accurate description of the last 50 years or so. Many running to and fro, knowledge increasing.

2Timothy 3 v1-4
1 This know also, that in the last days perilous times shall come.
2 For men shall be lovers of their own selves, covetous, boasters, proud, blasphemers, disobedient to parents, unthankful, unholy,
3 Without natural affection, trucebreakers, false accusers, incontinent, fierce, despisers of those that are good,
4 Traitors, heady, highminded, lovers of pleasures more than lovers of God;
 
Old 04-25-2004, 12:45 PM   #14
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Umm, bully to that then.
As I say, I have no problems, I tend to find scripture erroneous when it comes to prophecies, especially when being applied out of biblical times anyway.
No offence intended.
 
Old 04-25-2004, 12:58 PM   #15
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