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divyashree 09-11-2013 02:42 PM

Career Change Advice
 
Currently I am working as a Unix System Admin in a CMM 5 Level Company in India. I got 3 job offers now.

One in as Linux Application Support Engineer in a CMM 5 Company 500km away from home.

Another is Amazon Web Service Admin in a CMM 3 Level Company with onsite opportunity and is 1200 km away from home.

Another is Senior Unix system admin in a CMM 3 Level company and is 900 KM away from home.

I am indecisive which one to accept and which one to reject.

Any Linux career experts Please advice me.

TB0ne 09-11-2013 04:29 PM

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Originally Posted by divyashree (Post 5026036)
Currently I am working as a Unix System Admin in a CMM 5 Level Company in India. I got 3 job offers now.

One in as Linux Application Support Engineer in a CMM 5 Company 500km away from home.
Another is Amazon Web Service Admin in a CMM 3 Level Company with onsite opportunity and is 1200 km away from home.
Another is Senior Unix system admin in a CMM 3 Level company and is 900 KM away from home.

I am indecisive which one to accept and which one to reject. Any Linux career experts Please advice me.

There is nothing anyone here can tell you. The "CMM" level is practically meaningless, as is the company location. YOU have to decide if you want to move, take the job, and like the company. What do you think ANYONE is going to be able to tell you?

divyashree 09-11-2013 09:29 PM

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Originally Posted by TB0ne (Post 5026080)
There is nothing anyone here can tell you. The "CMM" level is practically meaningless, as is the company location. YOU have to decide if you want to move, take the job, and like the company. What do you think ANYONE is going to be able to tell you?

Dear TBone thanks for responding.

As the responsibility will vary in different designations , I wanted to know choosing which designation will help me in future to gain more knowledge and will help me grow.
AWS is complete cloud based and is a hot skill now, But I have no idea about it in market .
And I have mentioned CMM level,because I want to know if moving from a big company to a small company will have bad effects in future in my linux career.

dugan 09-11-2013 10:16 PM

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Originally Posted by divyashree (Post 5026166)
And I have mentioned CMM level,because I want to know if moving from a big company to a small company will have bad effects in future in my linux career.

In the Western world, at least, the answer is no.

In the West, no-one believes that working at a big company is necessarily better than working at a small company. Furthermore, no-one believes that working at a big company necessarily means you're better than someone who works at a small company. And no-one believes that a big company (or government) will (necessarily) give you better job security or more advancement opportunities than a small company.

Case in point: Guido van Rossum left Google to work at Dropbox. Any more questions?

The exception is if the big company is known for being selective about who it hires. In which case the big company is good to have worked at at one point, but not necessarily to stay forever at.

TB0ne 09-12-2013 08:29 AM

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Originally Posted by divyashree (Post 5026166)
As the responsibility will vary in different designations , I wanted to know choosing which designation will help me in future to gain more knowledge and will help me grow.

Again, no idea. How do you think anyone here can tell you what will help you in the future? Or what will give you more knowledege??
Quote:

AWS is complete cloud based and is a hot skill now, But I have no idea about it in market .
And no one else does either. These are YOUR decisions to make.
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And I have mentioned CMM level,because I want to know if moving from a big company to a small company will have bad effects in future in my linux career.
Your skills have those effects...not where you work.

sundialsvcs 09-12-2013 10:13 AM

Do you really want to live "thousands of kilometers away from home?" ...

Whatever happened to "bloom where you are planted?" The grass is not greener on the other side of the ocean.

Be very aware of what the real deal is: people are interested in you because they perceive you to be cheap and exploitable. You can wind up "thousands of kilometers away from home" with no way to get home. I see it happening here quite regularly.

divyashree 09-12-2013 01:28 PM

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Originally Posted by dugan (Post 5026180)
In the Western world, at least, the answer is no.

In the West, no-one believes that working at a big company is necessarily better than working at a small company. Furthermore, no-one believes that working at a big company necessarily means you're better than someone who works at a small company. And no-one believes that a big company (or government) will (necessarily) give you better job security or more advancement opportunities than a small company.

Case in point: Guido van Rossum left Google to work at Dropbox. Any more questions?

The exception is if the big company is known for being selective about who it hires. In which case the big company is good to have worked at at one point, but not necessarily to stay forever at.

Hi dugan thanks. Having fun and excitement in work is best way to choose.

---------- Post added 09-12-13 at 11:58 PM ----------

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Originally Posted by sundialsvcs (Post 5026535)
Do you really want to live "thousands of kilometers away from home?" ...

Whatever happened to "bloom where you are planted?" The grass is not greener on the other side of the ocean.

Be very aware of what the real deal is: people are interested in you because they perceive you to be cheap and exploitable. You can wind up "thousands of kilometers away from home" with no way to get home. I see it happening here quite regularly.

Hi sundialsvcs, what you are thinking is not correct. Currently I am 1950 km away from my home since last 2 years and have enough leaves(45 days a year) to go home.
And I am in India and not in USA, where every state may have some IT hubs to work for. In India there are few selected cities where major IT hubs are located and students relocate to those cities for a better job opportunity.
So how is this cheap if you have a master degree in computing and do not have a suitable job/job you like to do in your home town ?

---------- Post added 09-12-13 at 11:58 PM ----------

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Originally Posted by TB0ne (Post 5026463)
Again, no idea. How do you think anyone here can tell you what will help you in the future? Or what will give you more knowledege??

And no one else does either. These are YOUR decisions to make.

Your skills have those effects...not where you work.

Dear TBone, Thanks.
I just want some advice to take the correct decision.
I asked here because I am just a newbie in the job market and I believe some members in this forum are with decades of industry experience in these fields and I registered in this forum in the first day I introduced linux to myself and choose this as my career path.
Its fine if no one else does.

TB0ne 09-12-2013 02:54 PM

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Originally Posted by divyashree (Post 5026639)
I just want some advice to take the correct decision.
I asked here because I am just a newbie in the job market and I believe some members in this forum are with decades of industry experience in these fields and I registered in this forum in the first day I introduced linux to myself and choose this as my career path.
Its fine if no one else does.

There is no 'correct' decision, and there is NOTHING anyone can help you with for this question. YOU have to decide what direction you want to go in, and what you want to do. There is no 'right' answer.

I have decades of experience, and it is all meaningless for ANYONE but me, when it comes to making a decision about your life.

273 09-12-2013 03:01 PM

With all due respect to previous responders I think somebody in India may be able to give a decent answer to the original question.
Unless one of the previous posters has some experience working in India that they care to share?

sundialsvcs 09-12-2013 03:19 PM

As someone who did travel a few thousand kilometers from home for an opportunity, in retrospect I wish that I had not. However, I was out-of-line to "brashly assume" that you meant USA. :-(

divyashree 09-12-2013 10:54 PM

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Originally Posted by TB0ne (Post 5026692)
There is no 'correct' decision, and there is NOTHING anyone can help you with for this question. YOU have to decide what direction you want to go in, and what you want to do. There is no 'right' answer.

I have decades of experience, and it is all meaningless for ANYONE but me, when it comes to making a decision about your life.

Dear Guruji, I dont want to argue if anyone cant help. :rolleyes:I think I did a mistake by asking it here.:doh: I never want anyone to help or take decision for me. My point is if someone has decades of experience, his expertise in these fields can throw some light on what these particular designations means in industry and how it helps them, as I am in dark side and yet to take decision to choose the smarter and better option for me.:scratch: I have 3 option thats why I am in confusion.:confused: If I had one option I never asked.

Aquarius_Girl 09-13-2013 12:29 AM

:twocents:

Firstly, inquire about the job responsibilities which those companies will
be expecting from you w.r.t your post.

Secondly, ask your inner self about your "interest". Ask yourself, w.r.t to
which kind of work out of those three would you not mind yourself doing
overtime.

Thirdly, search job websites like Naukri.com to see which kind of jobs are
"in demand" currently so that you don't face difficulty in looking for new
job after some years.

zhjim 09-13-2013 02:13 AM

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Originally Posted by divyashree (Post 5026877)
I think I did a mistake by asking it here.:doh: I never want anyone to help or take decision for me.

I dont't think that it was a mistake to ask around here. Also the answers where pointing into the right direction I think there were phrased to bluntly. I guess you know that no one can make that decision you just asked for some input and thats it. As you are already away from home (what you could have mentioned) I'd say distance does not really matter. So hunt for the sports. AWS is nice if you want to go into virtualisation big time, the senior position should qualify you to lead a team in most ocassions so if you thinking about playing boss why not give it a try :). Support is support either you like it or not.

divyashree 09-13-2013 02:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Anisha Kaul (Post 5026908)
:twocents:

Firstly, inquire about the job responsibilities which those companies will
be expecting from you w.r.t your post.

Secondly, ask your inner self about your "interest". Ask yourself, w.r.t to
which kind of work out of those three would you not mind yourself doing
overtime.

Thirdly, search job websites like Naukri.com to see which kind of jobs are
"in demand" currently so that you don't face difficulty in looking for new
job after some years.

Thanks Anisha. The thing is that I am fighting with my inner to give priority to which one as every responsibility has something more , new and exciting that I have not exposed yet. I am interested in all and want to work in all.:)

Senior Unix Admin - Solaris Admin ( New to me )
Linux App Support - Bigdata and Hadoop support ( New to me )
AWS Admin - AWS Cloud ( New to me )

So I approached here with the experts as nowhere I might get better comparison.

divyashree 09-13-2013 02:28 PM

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Originally Posted by zhjim (Post 5026945)
I dont't think that it was a mistake to ask around here. Also the answers where pointing into the right direction I think there were phrased to bluntly. I guess you know that no one can make that decision you just asked for some input and thats it. As you are already away from home (what you could have mentioned) I'd say distance does not really matter. So hunt for the sports. AWS is nice if you want to go into virtualisation big time, the senior position should qualify you to lead a team in most ocassions so if you thinking about playing boss why not give it a try :). Support is support either you like it or not.

Thanks zhjim for the reply. The thing is that after playing boss the learning and working will be decreased, and I am yet to hunt new skills.

zhjim 09-16-2013 04:30 AM

Big data and cloud are sure taking their place now and will stay in future so this is never on the bad side to learn.
Taking on solaris in my opinion is a bit old school also there are more than enough system in use, just I doubt that a lot new system get deployed. Also this is just guessing I never digged into solars or how much market share there is. Just taken from the usual jobs lists.

divyashree 09-16-2013 12:34 PM

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Originally Posted by zhjim (Post 5028366)
Big data and cloud are sure taking their place now and will stay in future so this is never on the bad side to learn.
Taking on solaris in my opinion is a bit old school also there are more than enough system in use, just I doubt that a lot new system get deployed. Also this is just guessing I never digged into solars or how much market share there is. Just taken from the usual jobs lists.

Yes zhjim, I'm completely mad now, as only 15 days left in my hand to decide. :confused:

To swim in BIGDATA or in CLOUD


:scratch::scratch::scratch::scratch:

zhjim 09-17-2013 03:06 AM

Can't take the decision off of you also 2 weeks is some time especially there is at least one weekend to think about and make a decision. Maybe you could gather some info on what software are in use. Or maybe see if you have to only maintaine a already running system or setting up a new one. If you want to learn new stuff I guess only maintaining could get you bored. But if it also goes with extending the system that would be a plus.

Maybe you can go by this pro and cons list. And then see which one "scores" better.

angryfirelord 09-17-2013 01:25 PM

I wouldn't use CMMI as the only metric for rating the worthiness of a company. Someone with a high rating doesn't necessarily mean they're good, just that the rubber stampers and paper pushers are busy.

I don't know how the IT sector is in India, but I would look at how each individual business operates. Do they treat their employees well? Is there a pay increase for good performance? What benefits does the company provide? How many hours do their employees work a week? Does the job require 24/7 support? Does the company have a high turnover rate? You're going to be spending a significant chunk of your day working, so it's not going to do you any good if the work environment sucks.

moxieman99 09-17-2013 04:51 PM

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Originally Posted by divyashree (Post 5028653)
Yes zhjim, I'm completely mad now, as only 15 days left in my hand to decide. :confused:

To swim in BIGDATA or in CLOUD


:scratch::scratch::scratch::scratch:

Big Data. You can have big data without the Cloud. Big Data is a concept and tool that won't go away. Cloud is simply the internet as a base of operations.

angryfirelord 09-19-2013 05:52 PM

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Originally Posted by moxieman99 (Post 5029492)
Big Data. You can have big data without the Cloud. Big Data is a concept and tool that won't go away. Cloud is simply the internet as a base of operations.

Both of which are buzz words which mean little in an operational context.


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