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Old 08-28-2019, 08:08 AM   #31
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If you two dislike each other so much, why don't you put each other on ignore? That would be my bit of "wisdom of the ancients".
I don't dislike but your words from other thread work both ways:
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It's really not worth quarrelling about. When you get to my age, you get used to being treated like an idiot, especially if you're female. My signature is largely a reflection of that. Personally I find the prejudices of young people amusing rather than offensive. They still have so much to learn...
I agree. I am younger and less experienced in life and i not argue with that BUT older people also have something to learn from younger people like me. I was recently still completely naive youngster from your POV, so i still remember difference between kid and adult world, but i am still naive so this could be reason why i am misunderstood.

On YouTube there is same advices from respectable elders like DP about how world operates like what we are told when growing up. But the issue is not that love does not work because it does work but that society not work only with love..people not want utopian society like in movie Zeitgeist. I agree that it can be true that modern comfort based society that was achieved by older generations makes younger generations into SnowFlakes that melt under pressure but there is valid explanation for it. Misguided or improper education and no need to be 'tough as nails' anymore. Most people are not prepared for real life problems when they are young so they grow up with "illusion glasses" that once removed force into rethinking and redoing how life operates. But this is what is not acceptable from society. They want "instant coffee" results. Also since most stuff is achieved already younger people are missing purpose in life..because almost every wheel there is is already discovered and in use.

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Old 08-28-2019, 02:20 PM   #32
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^ Your continuous refering to youtube video is worrying. You should get out more - or at least use the whole www.
 
Old 08-28-2019, 02:31 PM   #33
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^ Your continuous refering to youtube video is worrying. You should get out more - or at least use the whole www.
Why? What is difference if i link or quote books or www or youtube much? Is it because Google spy on everyone? So what. Humans are smarter than AI in longrun..computers are simply quicker at calculating math. They not know what it feels like to be human being so they not know our way of life. Truth is truth irrelevant of source it comes. I did use other sources in other posts.

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Old 08-28-2019, 03:19 PM   #34
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Why? What is difference if i link or quote books or www or youtube much? Is it because Google spy on everyone? So what. Humans are smarter than AI in longrun..computers are simply quicker at calculating math. They not know what it feels like to be human being so they not know our way of life.
No idea what you're babbling about here. YouTube is *STILL* not a good source of learning, especially not the junk you've been linking to.
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And so is stupidity.
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I did use other sources in other posts.
Such as a blog post that made next to zero sense? Yes, you did. You still make little sense, don't answer things when asked, and keep clinging to the idea that YouTube is a great place to learn. It is not, mainly because you're not watching anything that teaches you...you're only watching what reinforces YOUR very limited, ignorant opinion. When someone challenges that, you whine about being 'judged', misunderstood, etc. This thread and pretty much EVERY SINGLE OTHER thread you've ever started here is all the same; you spout off, link a YouTube video, then claim that everyone else is wrong.

As you've been asked about making a difference in the world: **WHAT ARE YOU PERSONALLY DOING** to make such a difference? Anything?
 
Old 08-28-2019, 03:23 PM   #35
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^ Your continuous refering to youtube video is worrying. You should get out more - or at least use the whole www.
Yep...OP's been told that MANY times, by many folks. The 'argument' is always circular:
  • You can get information there!
  • It is AUDIO VISUAL so it is much better!
Look at ANY of their previous threads.
 
Old 08-28-2019, 04:04 PM   #36
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Yep...OP's been told that MANY times, by many folks. The 'argument' is always circular:
  • You can get information there!
  • It is AUDIO VISUAL so it is much better!
Look at ANY of their previous threads.
But it is better if pictures are used..remember school books with pictures? I not want argue over and over. I agree that youtube cannot give practical experience but can give theoretical experience basics.

Oh and growing up i read books aswell. They train imagination..but everything else stays same.

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Old 08-29-2019, 04:32 AM   #37
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I know my local area is looking for surrogate big brothers for 132 kids.

Takes like a few minutes to change a life.

Since we like videos. https://www.cbs7.com/content/news/Be...558639381.html


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Old 08-29-2019, 06:29 AM   #38
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But it is better if pictures are used..remember school books with pictures? I not want argue over and over.
..and back to "See? It's AUDIO VISUAL presentation!" Doesn't change the fact that it's not showing you anything worth learning.
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I agree that youtube cannot give practical experience but can give theoretical experience basics.
Which brings us back to the question you've been asked many times now: WHAT HAVE YOU/ARE YOU ACTUALLY DOING TO GET THIS 'experience'???? Are you doing ANYTHING to make a difference, besides watching YouTube?
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Oh and growing up i read books aswell. They train imagination..but everything else stays same.
Mainly because you don't seem to get up and do anything. Again: past watching YouTube, WHAT ARE YOU DOING??? You don't answer the question, and ignore it, and keep putting YouTube links that tell you what you want to hear.
 
Old 08-29-2019, 08:12 AM   #39
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..and back to "See? It's AUDIO VISUAL presentation!" Doesn't change the fact that it's not showing you anything worth learning.

Which brings us back to the question you've been asked many times now: WHAT HAVE YOU/ARE YOU ACTUALLY DOING TO GET THIS 'experience'???? Are you doing ANYTHING to make a difference, besides watching YouTube?

Mainly because you don't seem to get up and do anything. Again: past watching YouTube, WHAT ARE YOU DOING??? You don't answer the question, and ignore it, and keep putting YouTube links that tell you what you want to hear.
LOL! Now you are troll yourself. It is scientificaly studied and approoved:
https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/b...hrough-visuals
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pictur...riority_effect
and many more results from searching if cared to notice

None of your business(not insult but directness like you prefer). By same logic i can ask same question backwards. What have other posters here, including yourself, done to get experience? I have done my share and will do it again bit later.

That is prejudice from older people. You don't know me in real life just like i don't know you but i not assume stuff about your life outside LQ. Obviosly since i am sane and have internet connection and roof above my head i am doing something in return in society otherwise would not have roof and internet as penalty for not cooperating.

Why are we talking about this still? It should be already clear that we both misunderstood each other. Get over it and move on. I am busy with other thoughts.

p.s.as i noticed some have upset issues over different opinions. i am not forcing my opinions onto others unlike few forum bullies..

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Old 08-29-2019, 08:49 AM   #40
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LOL! Now you are troll yourself. It is scientificaly studied and approoved:
https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/b...hrough-visuals
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pictur...riority_effect
and many more results from searching if cared to notice
Yes, I'm *POSITIVE* there are loads of results about how to teach children. That's why all those higher-learning books are nothing but pictures, right?? And that article was LOADED with them, right?? Oh wait...they weren't and aren't.
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None of your business(not insult but directness like you prefer). By same logic i can ask same question backwards. What have other posters here, including yourself, done to get experience? I have done my share and will do it again bit later.
Oh? So then tell us again since you've been asked many times; WHAT HAVE YOU DONE AND WHAT ARE YOU DOING??? I've done a LOT, and continue to. You seem to have done 'guest work' a few years ago, and stopped there.
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That is prejudice from older people. You don't know me in real life just like i don't know you but i not assume stuff about your life outside LQ. Obviosly since i am sane and have internet connection and roof above my head i am doing something in return in society otherwise would not have roof and internet as penalty for not cooperating.
No, not 'obviously'. There are many charities and shelters where you can get a roof and an internet connection. There are also many FREE places to get an Internet connection.

And we can only judge by what we read of your posts. And you cannot follow a conversation, answer simple questions, and only want people to agree with you.
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Why are we talking about this still? It should be already clear that we both misunderstood each other. Get over it and move on. I am busy with other thoughts. p.s.as i noticed some have upset issues over different opinions. i am not forcing my opinions onto others unlike few forum bullies..
You're not?? EVERY SINGLE POST you've made is nothing but you shoving your opinions down peoples throats. If no one agrees with you, you whine about being 'misunderstood' and 'complex', and throw out more YouTube videos about how 'right' you are. You don't want to hear anything else.
 
Old 08-29-2019, 09:02 AM   #41
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p.s.as i noticed some have upset issues over different opinions. i am not forcing my opinions onto others unlike few forum bullies..
Are you sure about that? Because you seem to get upset when someone suggests looking beyond YouTube videos, and doubting the validity of the videos you think everyone should "just believe", with these self-appointed experts in said videos. Don't get me wrong Arcane, it's up to what you wish to believe or not believe, but if you're not even going to try and understand where others are coming from, there's honestly zero point in having a discussion about anything. Don't you think?

I'll be honest in saying that I think TB0ne is wasting their time in even bothering to try and get you to understand anything outside of your comfort zone, but best of luck to them - looks like they'll need it...
 
Old 08-29-2019, 10:32 AM   #42
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Our neighbours are russians and they are also violent nation like americans think they are police nation so i know why people like you misunderstand me. They think every millenial is snowflake because previous generations required muscle to live. I agree. Martial Arts training is very crucial for psychology, unless other methods of solving conflict are teached growing up(but i wasn't told how). But muscle does not make personality. It only assist personality. Sure i am millenial but i am not snowflake without explanation. I am simply born different. If everyone would know their future before they make choices in everyday routine the outcome would be different. Don't be like Alita who is upset about truth i mentioned below. Violence does not solve ALL problems. Only few.
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Are you sure about that? Because you seem to get upset when someone suggests looking beyond YouTube videos, and doubting the validity of the videos you think everyone should "just believe", with these self-appointed experts in said videos. Don't get me wrong Arcane, it's up to what you wish to believe or not believe, but if you're not even going to try and understand where others are coming from, there's honestly zero point in having a discussion about anything. Don't you think?{...}
OK let me repost something. I do not have creative and much of understandable sense of humor so maybe for this reason i get misunderstood and i misunderstood others..but my posts are honest. I am normal. But i do not get upset that much. Only little sometimes like everyone else.

p.s.It is better to not get upset on truth, like in this video, but do something else instead. :P

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Old 09-10-2019, 02:02 AM   #43
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Anyone can make an actual difference, especially since most of the issues we have today is due to transcended 'newspeak' and other such things.
As in, if you know the real meaning of something, you can simply say it to shake up or even ruin the crap that is built on top of it.

Naive example: Toxic speech.
If I could actually poison people over the internet by shitposting then I'd feel very smug about myself, but alas, toxicity is a complete misnomer.
Ironically, simply hammering such a point can be a sort of truth based troll in itself, which is a nice bonus.
In fact, dispelling BS and pulling wool back off eyes is generally a doubledecker of reward. You remind people that they're full of crap with their BS, and you annoy them in the process. Win win.

Apply this to anything you wish. It always makes a difference because the liars know they are liars, they will always feel the burn from it, and that is certainly a difference in how they feel otherwise, quite self satisfied.
 
Old 09-10-2019, 02:20 AM   #44
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This is probably because babies see world different from young people who see it differently from grown ups and they see it differently from elders. But truth is truth regardless if it is told by baby or elder. We should be more open minded. Newborns adapt to life changes more easier than those with experience. We all can and should learn from each other.
https://brightside.me/inspiration-fa...lts-do-484510/
But it is interesting that we have childhood amnesia yet scientists say all can see world even as infants
https://www.youtube.com/results?sear...bies+see+world
I am not saying that i am newborn but i was recently newborn so i know what it feels like to be judged because others do it differently.
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{...}Naive example: Toxic speech.
If I could actually poison people over the internet by shitposting then I'd feel very smug about myself, but alas, toxicity is a complete misnomer.
Ironically, simply hammering such a point can be a sort of truth based troll in itself, which is a nice bonus.
In fact, dispelling BS and pulling wool back off eyes is generally a doubledecker of reward. You remind people that they're full of crap with their BS, and you annoy them in the process. Win win.{...}
For this reason internet helps. Anyone can write their POV without worrying of real life bullying(in USA they have freedom of speech but elsewhere it can lead to problems) and with option to ignore other people POV aswell. But in my specific case i am correct. I was born different so i understand why am i getting misunderstood both in real life and virtual but it is ironic cause i was raised to be normal being by same beings who critize and misunderstand me but when they teached and schooled me they told me that i should "not judge book by it's cover" aswell. WTF?

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Old 09-10-2019, 05:43 PM   #45
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I am not sure how old you are Arcane, but I certainly feel for the younger generation because the Web has made life more complicated in many ways. You are connected, even on this forum, to many different cultures around the world and that makes for some interesting conversations, but also some differences which may lead to conflict - added to by the fact that typing text does not bring across your best attitude. E.g. you may be a really easy person to get on with in real life, but typed messages can come across as blunt. It was always the same with text messages - if you forget to put "xxx" at the end to your wife, she thinks you are in a bad mood, but the truth is you are struggling to hit the touch screen with any accuracy due to fast train...

Social media has heaped pressure on younger people - older people never had to deal with this kind of 24/7 scrutiny from our peers while growing up. I have 7 nephews and the older ones think that their career path will be to make YouTube videos of Minecraft. I am probably a middle generation and I have young kids. They call their Android tablets "iPads" which royally pees me off...
 
  


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