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H_TeXMeX_H 04-21-2012 06:04 AM

Bye
 
I was planning on leaving next year, but events have changed my mind, so I'm leaving now.

I'm sure most don't really care, and they'll say so below, perhaps, but I did want to leave a note, as others have.

Why ? For many reasons. Mostly because I feel the world is becoming so incredibly stupid and censored to any hint of intelligence.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lao-tzu
He who knows does not speak.
He who speaks does not know.

I cannot know what the quote was intended to mean, but to me it means that I must be silent while the fools scream their heads off at me and everyone else. Well, I'm ok with that, because stupidity = doom. I will not enlighten you, I will simply let you go your natural path ... towards inevitable doom. You can't say I didn't try to change that.

Anyway, it was fun while it lasted. But, I remember in the old days of LQ, things were different, there was a different feel to the forum. It was much more fun and open. Now it's not that anymore. I can't put my finger on what has changed, but something has. Maybe the world has changed and LQ with it. Well, in that case I will go dormant for a while, and it is wise to do so. In the darkness to come any glimmer of light is to be extinguished, so I cover the light for a while and hope for better times in the far future.

Ah, well, here's a final glimmer of light before I go:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phoenix_%28mythology%29
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eagle#Eagles_in_culture

syg00 04-21-2012 06:11 AM

I got similarly angry a while back, and went offline.
Came back after a while.

We're all free to came and go. Be satisfied in your decision.

Aquarius_Girl 04-21-2012 06:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by H_TeXMeX_H (Post 4659111)
I must be silent while the fools scream their heads off at me and everyone else.

`Silent` doesn't mean `leave`.
IF you feel that someone is trying to stalk you, pick at
you, or pester you deliberately, the best thing to do IMO
is to realize their intent and remain silent.

You can consider this as a patience tester for you. It worked
at least for me. You do realize that if someone stalks and
pesters you, their main aim is to "make you respond" anyhow.

As they say the best way to annoy a troll is to ignore them.
Leaving because of "some" people isn't wise, IMO.

alan_ri 04-21-2012 06:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by H_TeXMeX_H (Post 4659111)
I cannot know what the quote was intended to mean, but to me it means that I must be silent while the fools scream their heads off at me and everyone else.

Well, you see, the quote may mean that one should DO what one know is right and one does not need to speak sometimes because what one does speaks for him or her.

And they will know you by your acts.

I'm a member of some other sites, not Linux related too, actually one that I visit the most is about art and man what you can see and read there........ I am and I was mad at so many people there, but you know what, I DID what I thought was right and moved on. Who will see will see, who will not will not. What is important is for one to do what's right.

LQ? Well, many times I did what I thought was right but feedback sometimes wasn't right. What did I do? I moved on, but you know what, I didn't quit, because no one will make me stop doing what I think is right. Actually, one that stops doing what's right, no matter what the reason is, is more than a loser.

So, here's a song for ya, by my favorite band - Metallica; http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tj75Arhq5ho

It's been lovely to chat with ya here so many times, even though we didn't agree so many times!

Take care!

dugan 04-21-2012 10:21 AM

So you actually were serious: ;)

http://www.linuxquestions.org/questi...ml#post4658597

Quote:

I remember in the old days of LQ, things were different, there was a different feel to the forum. It was much more fun and open.
I've actually felt the exact opposite. I left around 2006, and when I returned a few years later the posters had IMHO a much better attitude.

jarubyh 04-21-2012 12:01 PM

Quote:

Why ? For many reasons. Mostly because I feel the world is becoming so incredibly stupid and censored to any hint of intelligence.
Sorry?

Quote:

Anyway, it was fun while it lasted. But, I remember in the old days of LQ, things were different, there was a different feel to the forum. It was much more fun and open. Now it's not that anymore. I can't put my finger on what has changed, but something has. Maybe the world has changed and LQ with it. Well, in that case I will go dormant for a while, and it is wise to do so. In the darkness to come any glimmer of light is to be extinguished, so I cover the light for a while and hope for better times in the far future.
Quote:

Ah, well, here's a final glimmer of light before I go:
Thanks for that. The final glimmer of light, I mean, illuminating the incredibly stupid, intelligence censoring forum in which we reside. I can't help but think you're being a little irrational, as I see LQ as being one of the better places on the internet, especially when it comes to solving problems relating to our dear OS. Well, if we've offended you so much, feel free to leave. I'm not saying that LQ is free of insensitivity, but it's a fairly good community, especially for the internet.

Thanks for the Wikipedia articles about Eagles.

whizje 04-21-2012 12:37 PM

I think highly of you and hope to see you back some day.

rokytnji 04-21-2012 12:55 PM

The world is a big place and to survive one needs a thick skin.

I have enjoyed our little conversations.

My philosophy has always been "Lead, follow, or get the hell out of my way".

I Will miss reading your posts and the ruffled feathers responses to your posts.

I'll catch ya later on the road maybe H_TeXMeX_H.

This forum will lose a valuable resource when you go.

Happy Trails, Rok

k3lt01 04-21-2012 05:00 PM

This is indeed a pity but
Quote:

Originally Posted by H_TeXMeX_H (Post 4659111)
I was planning on leaving next year, but events have changed my mind, so I'm leaving now.

you knew this was coming anyway
Quote:

Originally Posted by H_TeXMeX_H (Post 4659111)
I'm sure most don't really care, and they'll say so below, perhaps, but I did want to leave a note, as others have.

I care, but your threat made it impossible to stay without losing face.
Quote:

Originally Posted by H_TeXMeX_H (Post 4659111)
Why ? For many reasons. Mostly because I feel the world is becoming so incredibly stupid and censored to any hint of intelligence.

This censorship thing it a double edged sword. People cannot demand freedom of speech and then demand that someone gets banned for expressing an opinion no matter how personally offensive that opinion is to them.
Quote:

Originally Posted by H_TeXMeX_H (Post 4659111)
I cannot know what the quote was intended to mean, but to me it means that I must be silent while the fools scream their heads off at me and everyone else. Well, I'm ok with that, because stupidity = doom. I will not enlighten you, I will simply let you go your natural path ... towards inevitable doom. You can't say I didn't try to change that.

You tried but you kept on about things that you would not offer proof and could not prove and kept telling us it was not up to you to give us the information. If you have the information share it (this is after all the open source philosophy).

The rest of your post is depressing. The light has not gone out and there are many good people in this world who try to make a difference. You are not, and never will be, the only person who cares. Just because people disagree with you does not mean they are less caring and less intelligent than you.

Mike_P 04-21-2012 08:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by H_TeXMeX_H (Post 4659111)

I remember in the old days of LQ, things were different, there was a different feel to the forum. It was much more fun and open. Now it's not that anymore. I can't put my finger on what has changed, but something has.

Yeah, I was here back in 2006 and it was fun. Now, things have slooowww down here at LQ which is why I left in 2011 for awhile. Maybe the fun will pick up in the future.

I loved the linux vs windows wars which was entertainment for me but it has died down over the past year.

frankbell 04-21-2012 10:41 PM

Best wishes and thanks for all the bytes.

Catch you on the flip.

brianL 04-22-2012 03:07 AM

I hope you have second thoughts about leaving, since I remember I got some support from you that time I was banned from LQ. If you disagree with another member - so what? The human race would be very boring if we all had the same opinions and beliefs. I'm not altogether happy with the "censorship", political correctness, "netiquette", on these forums - but I can bite my tongue and comply. Think before you act.

sycamorex 04-22-2012 03:56 AM

I hope H_TeXMeX_H changes his mind as he was/is a valuable member of LQ. Over the years I've received a lot of quality help from him. I may not always agree with his views on life but that's not what it is all about. I think one must remember that this site is primarily devoted to linux and technical staff and it might not be the best place for enlightening the masses.

allend 04-22-2012 08:40 AM

In my time at LQ there are a small number of nicks that I have come to recognise and will click on their posts simply because they are generally insightful, technically solid or offer a logically argued viewpoint. The nick H_TeXMex_H is among those. (As is brianL, necessary reading for anybody with a GSOH)
I perceive your disillusionment as being partly due to your time at LQ, where new posts can come to be seen as "same old .., same old ..". As Linux matures, I have a sense of the tentacles of corporate thinking wrapping around. Linux is becoming more of a commodity and less of a new experiment. More users seem to have a sense of entitlement that they can simply ask a question and get an instantaneous answer. There seems to be less of a desire to do the work of searching for an answer or applying knowledge supplied to that user's particular situation. Perhaps that is the logical outcome of the work in the FOSS movement. As it strives to make things easier, faster and more transparent to the user, it also creates an expectation in the user that no other result is acceptable.
May the phoenix arise!

mjolnir 04-22-2012 09:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sycamorex (Post 4659725)
I hope H_TeXMeX_H changes his mind as he was/is a valuable member of LQ. Over the years I've received a lot of quality help from him. I may not always agree with his views on life but that's not what it is all about. I think one must remember that this site is primarily devoted to linux and technical staff and it might not be the best place for enlightening the masses.

My sentiments exactly.

AnanthaP 04-22-2012 09:00 PM

Quote:

I cannot know what the quote was intended to mean, but to me it means that I must be silent while the fools scream their heads off at me and everyone else. Well, I'm ok with that, because stupidity = doom. I will not enlighten you, I will simply let you go your natural path ... towards inevitable doom. You can't say I didn't try to change that.
Notwithstanding all of the above, there is always a need to speak up sometimes.

I for one will miss the certainty of a known viewpoint and a positive post in many threads.

OK

jimtony 04-22-2012 11:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by H_TeXMeX_H (Post 4659111)
I was planning on leaving next year, but events have changed my mind, so I'm leaving now.

I'm sure most don't really care, and they'll say so below, perhaps, but I did want to leave a note, as others have.

Why ? For many reasons. Mostly because I feel the world is becoming so incredibly stupid and censored to any hint of intelligence.

Don't let the stupid destroy your good mood.

PrinceCruise 05-01-2012 02:41 PM

I missed this thread somehow.
H_TeXMeX_H , I for one, would like to see you continue posting and helping fellow members in LQ.

Regards.

clifford227 05-01-2012 05:56 PM

H_TeXMeX_H, you've helped me a lot of the years, especially in the beginning when I was just starting out with linux, thank you for that. You've played a big part in my system being as good as it is.

I dont know whats gone on to prompt your leaving, and I dont really care.

Maybe a break from LQ's is the answer, I know I've left before, its no big deal, do whats right for you, and come back. Times a great healer, as they say, and people dont tend to hold grudges.

I know from the controversial things I've sometimes posted in LQ's over the years that you could glimpse the truth.

But when you're close to the truth, some wont like it, for one reason or another. I know from the issues that Im passionate about. 90% of the time, people give me very negative feedback, not just here but everywhere, and I've taken so much flak for it for years. Its only recently that people have started to think "Damn there may be something to what this guy was saying".

In the beginning its difficult and you feel as you do now, but after a while of sticking it out, and being true to yourself, and arguing your case, it then doesnt matter what anyone else thinks. If you're right and you know it, you develop a real sense of inner confidence, even in the face of everyone disgreeing with you.

Im sure it doesnt feel very good now, but I think you'll recover and come back stronger. You strike me as an open minded and emotional guy, and thats a tough combination in this world, its an organic process of suffering and discovery, it was for me, but the rewards are amazing if you tough it out, I did, and now treat life as a game, even when 90% are against me. Its beautiful when you get here, but you've got to go through the process!

Take care man, and if you do leave I hope to see you back on LQs in the future.

jefro 05-01-2012 08:48 PM

There seems to be more to this story. Some personal, healh, money issue. It should be trivial to ignore odd postings. There are too many technical posts from the OP to think otherwise. Maybe iron poor blood.

I guess the change may be true. Maybe more common users are trying linux where before it was limited to a few tech types.

If one were to be interested in linux then they would find this site a value to both the user and the people trying to help.


If one were to dwell on some of the non-linux forums and get into some arguments then I could see how one might be upset. They are there to vent some steam. I have lived in many places in my kind of long life and find that there is a whole world of opinions and views.

Far Side comic had it best. I think the caption was like and on the eight day God sprinkled some idiots on the world.

I tend to find that people who I feel are idiots also feel that I am one also. It is only fair.

weirdwolf 05-03-2012 10:49 PM

Hiya H_TeXMeX_H
Not here to tell you to stay or leave, that's up to you, I'd just as soon you didn't leave though.
Regardless of your choice Take care and best of wishes.

" The surest way to corrupt a youth is to instruct him to hold in higher esteem those who think alike than those who think differently. "
--Friedrich Nietzsche

" When all men think alike, no one thinks very much."
--Walter Lippmann

Knightron 05-05-2012 09:32 AM

lest we forget...

I have been a Gnu/Linux user for about a year, and have pretty much been a member of LQ for that time too. As i travel through the forums here at LQ, there are some handles that i see fairly often and have grown to identify. H_TeXMeX_H was; 'the paranoid guy'. Whether his paranoia was appropriate, i can not say, but it gave me a smile as i appreciate individuality, and now he's gone, that smile has turned away. Go forth mysterious warrior; and i along with others will hope you return.


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