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Old 06-10-2021, 01:57 PM   #46
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You should be careful about admitting that you read Charlie Hebdo. There are some people who would have your head off for that. I won't say who because I already have one infraction for a supposedly xenophobic remark in another thread.
 
Old 06-11-2021, 06:25 AM   #47
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You should be careful about admitting that you read Charlie Hebdo. There are some people who would have your head off for that. I won't say who because I already have one infraction for a supposedly xenophobic remark in another thread.
Thanks. There are several "Charlie Hebdo" publications. Lets declare for now: I have readen the versions where "Christi" was represented (it made a lot of trouble in France). So, that bunch of people on the side of "Christi" are not cutting-off heads. So, I am safe.. ;-)
 
Old 06-11-2021, 07:07 AM   #48
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Yes, Charlie Hebdo is a very divisive topic. I was taught this poem from the nonsense rhymes in our poetry book as a kid.
Quote:
Here lies the body of Patrick Grey,
Who died defending his right of way.
His way was right, his will was strong,
But he's just as dead as if he'd been wrong.
Charlie Hebdo had the right to free speech, and used it imho irresponsibly. There are many interpretations of Islam on the scale of secular <--> strictest & militant, and 2-3 of those would react violently.

I would share Hazel's view on not publicly posting that you are a reader of fringe literature, and we could add other names beyond Charlie Hebdo.
 
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Charlie Hebdo had the right to free speech, and used it imho irresponsibly.
I would share Hazel's view on not publicly posting that you are a reader of fringe literature, and we could add other names beyond Charlie Hebdo.
I love the ironic touch (not 100% sure of it). Lets go back to open-source topics.
 
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I love the ironic touch (not 100% sure of it). Lets go back to open-source topics.
On a thread entitled "Brexit Baloney" in General (for non-technical discussions)? Oh well, let's keep our (my) comments as neutral as possible. It's a pet hate of mine that those who have full insight into the reaction their comments/actions will inspire, forge ahead, get people mad, and then try to hide behind free speech when things go wrong. There's legal principles here which allow judges to take into account contributory negligence or undue provocation. And we have the right to Free Speech in our constitution from the get-go. We didn't need to amend it.
 
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Definition: The North of Ireland Protocol which you may be hearing about is that bit of the UK Brexit agreement which specifies
  • The North of Ireland must keep EU rules, and effectively BE in the EU, so the open border between the Republic and the North. This is essential to underpin the 1998 Peace Agreement.
  • So it follows that restrictions on British meat entering the EU must be implemented in the NOI, although there was a 6 month exemption on that (running out now).
  • The New Unionist leader (a pipsqueak party, with power only in finely balanced parliaments) wants this NOI protocol scrapped altogether. They can make noise, but not much more, as Johnson has an 80 majority.
  • It's worth noting that there would have been no Brexit agreement at all without a NOI protocol that satisfied everybody.

The hot controversy now is that Border controls on mainland Britain are snagging deliveries of meat to the NOI, and proving highly unpopular there. There's no Conservative votes in the NOI, so I don't see what they're worried about. It looks like EU tests on British meat products destined for the NOI will have to be reimposed. The Unionists will jump up and down because it's another wedge between them & the UK. Their British meat won't be 'British enough.' It's nearly childish. The new Unionist leader (Poots?) seems to be getting real at last after preaching to his backers in a very unrealistic way for a week.

So with this G-7 meeting in Cornwall where Johnson wanted to say "Britain is Back," but the 2×EU Commission heads, the US President, French President, Irish PM, & German Chancellor all took time out to warn Johnson about his behaviour on the NOI protocol. It's fair to say that this smaller issue rained on his parade, although not the size of the Covid or Climate worries.
 
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There's no Conservative votes in the NOI, so I don't see what they're worried about.
They have a majority now, but didn't they require coalition support from there in the previous parliament (and so might need them again in the future)?
 
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Yes, Theresa May needed Unionist support. The NOI only has 12 seats in Westminster and that means the Unionists only get 6 or 7. Not much beside an 80 seat majority. They can only make noise.

My (poorly expressed) point was that the Conservatives or Labour never win a seat there, neither does any moderate, usually. So it's all hard bargaining by the two extremes. Why should Boris care what they think? The Unionists will leap into the king-maker role if offered, because they can control the agenda then.
 
  


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