Best unbiased news channels?

jefro · 05-20-2022, 02:34 PM

I ask my mother. She's always right.

ondoho · 05-21-2022, 05:13 AM

I saw a podcast about why certain people fall so easily for a certain type of conspiracy myth, despite very obvious flaws:

They like the David vs. Goliath narrative - established media (or the scientific community, or politics...) are Goliath, big and bad and always wrong, and our hero is the underdog, the only one that sees things as they really are, and is ruthlessly persecuted by Goliath.

Once they fall for the strong narrative, the actual content and larger meaning of the story doesn't matter anymore.

You can see variations thereof everywhere.

elcore · 05-21-2022, 05:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ondoho

David vs. Goliath narrative

If only there was some sort of system where a collecive might be considered an individual in "some" cases but not "all" cases.
So it could be a respectable collective when it does something good, and just a poor individual when it does something bad.

ondoho · 05-21-2022, 07:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by elcore

If only there was some sort of system where a collecive might be considered an individual in "some" cases but not "all" cases.
So it could be a respectable collective when it does something good, and just a poor individual when it does something bad.

What exactly do you mean?

elcore · 05-21-2022, 07:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ondoho

What exactly do you mean?

Size of characters in that story is not variable, so Goliath's not really comparable to huge organizations.
If they were, Goliath could say; it was small part of Goliath's foot that accidently a village, and it was allmighty Goliath who saved a cat from a tree by lifting his finger.

ondoho · 05-21-2022, 08:06 AM

I see... thanks for explaining.
Anyhow, I do not subscribe to that narrative.

Xeratul · 05-22-2022, 06:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by teckk

Deutsche Welle has a English version

Code:

yt-dlp -f 93 https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=GE_SfNVNyqk -o - | ffplay -

Sky News

Code:

yt-dlp -f 93 https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=9Auq9mYxFEE -o - | ffplay -

Newsy

Code:

yt-dlp -f 18 https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=gxJ6eJtGYFw -o - | ffplay -

Reuters

Code:

yt-dlp -f 93 https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=OsksEXx2X9M -o - | ffplay -

PBS

Code:

yt-dlp -f 18 https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=bhM2rT38JXE -o - | ffplay -

Fox

Code:

yt-dlp -f 18 https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=FACbviA9Umc -o - | ffplay -

ABC (US)

Code:

yt-dlp -f 93 https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=w_Ma8oQLmSM -o - | ffplay -

ABC (OZ)

Code:

yt-dlp -f 93 https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=vOTiJkg1voo -o - | ffplay -

One could make a shell script using select for a menu.

Ok, mpv works very fine with HTTPS. while mplayer not.

I installed youtube dl.

Can you give me the command to view France 24 EN Live news? It would be on youtube stream

Code:

 wget  -c  --no-check-certificate   https://yt-dl.org/downloads/latest/youtube-dl -O /usr/local/bin/youtube-dl ;  chmod a+rx /usr/local/bin/youtube-dl

; wget  -c  --no-check-certificate   https://yt-dl.org/downloads/latest/youtube-dl -O /usr/local/bin/youtube-dl ;  chmod a+rx /usr/local/bin/youtube-dl

ondoho · 05-22-2022, 07:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Xeratul

Ok, mpv works very fine with HTTPS. while mplayer not.

Use mpv then.

Quote:

I installed youtube dl.

Currently most recommend yt-dlp over youtube-dl.

Quote:

Can you give me the command to view France 24 EN Live news? It would be on youtube stream

Code:

mpv "https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h3Mu...e=emb_imp_woyt"

teckk · 05-22-2022, 07:45 AM

Quote:

Can you give me the command to view France 24 EN Live news?

Search youtube for what you want.

Look at man youtube-dl

Code:

youtube-dl -F https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=h3MuIUNCCzI

Pick the stream that you want(resolution/bandwidth)

Example:

Code:

youtube-dl -f 94 https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=h3MuIUNCCzI -o - | mpv -

I don't have youtube-dl installed, tested it with

Code:

yt-dlp -f 94 https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=h3MuIUNCCzI -o - | ffplay -

https://0x0.st/oa4t.png

teckk · 05-22-2022, 07:51 AM

Oh that's right. mpv will do that for you. And that's a live stream, so you don't have to worry about mpv trying to download the whole thing just to watch a little bit. Which is the reason that I prefer mplayer for that.

Actually ffmpeg will do better with a stream than either. I don't mean better quality, It won't choke.

Xeratul · 05-22-2022, 08:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by teckk

Search youtube for what you want.

Look at man youtube-dl

Code:

youtube-dl -F https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=h3MuIUNCCzI

Pick the stream that you want(resolution/bandwidth)

Example:

Code:

youtube-dl -f 94 https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=h3MuIUNCCzI -o - | mpv -

I don't have youtube-dl installed, tested it with

Code:

yt-dlp -f 94 https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=h3MuIUNCCzI -o - | ffplay -

https://0x0.st/oa4t.png

it seems to fail... here please find an output:

Code:

james@debian:~$ youtube-dl -f 94 https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=h3MuIUNCCzI -o - | mpv -
Playing: -
[file] Reading from stdin...
[youtube] h3MuIUNCCzI: Downloading webpage
[youtube] h3MuIUNCCzI: Downloading video info webpage
ERROR: unable to download video info webpage: HTTP Error 410: Gone (caused by <HTTPError 410: 'Gone'>); please report this issue on https://yt-dl.org/bug . Make sure you are using the latest version; see  https://yt-dl.org/update  on how to update. Be sure to call youtube-dl with the --verbose flag and include its complete output.
Failed to recognize file format.


Exiting... (Errors when loading file)

ondoho · 05-22-2022, 11:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Xeratul

it seems to fail...

Have you not seen post #38?

openbsd98324 · 05-23-2022, 03:54 AM

@ondoho... Better than "bash", you can simply use FLTVSTREAM, light and fast.

(FLTK project).

URL: https://gitlab.com/openbsd98324/fltvstream

teckk · 05-23-2022, 07:09 AM

Quote:

it seems to fail... here please find an output:

Code:

yt-dlp -F https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=h3MuIUNCCzI
[youtube] h3MuIUNCCzI: Downloading webpage
[youtube] h3MuIUNCCzI: Downloading android player API JSON
[youtube] h3MuIUNCCzI: Downloading m3u8 information
[youtube] h3MuIUNCCzI: Downloading m3u8 information
[info] Available formats for h3MuIUNCCzI:
ID EXT RESOLUTION FPS │   TBR PROTO  │ VCODEC        VBR ACODEC    ABR
──────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────
91 mp4 256x144     30 │  269k m3u8_n │ avc1.4d400c  269k mp4a.40.5  0k
92 mp4 426x240     30 │  507k m3u8_n │ avc1.4d4015  507k mp4a.40.5  0k
93 mp4 640x360     30 │  962k m3u8_n │ avc1.4d401e  962k mp4a.40.2  0k
94 mp4 854x480     30 │ 1282k m3u8_n │ avc1.4d401f 1282k mp4a.40.2  0k
95 mp4 1280x720    30 │ 2447k m3u8_n │ avc1.4d401f 2447k mp4a.40.2  0k
96 mp4 1920x1080   30 │ 4561k m3u8_n │ avc1.4d4028 4561k mp4a.40.2  0k

yt-dlp -f 94 https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=h3MuIUNCCzI -o - | ffplay -

https://0x0.st/oa3h.png

teckk · 05-23-2022, 07:21 AM

@Xeratul

Code:

man -t youtube-dl | ps2pdf - ytdl.pdf
man -t mpv | ps2pdf - mpv.pdf

man -P cat youtube-dl > ytdl.txt
man -P cat mpv > mpv.txt

man youtube-dl | groff -mandoc -Thtml > ytdl.html
man mpv | groff -mandoc -Thtml > mpv.html

man -Hfirefox youtube-dl
man -Hfirefox mpv