Best unbiased news channels?

jmgibson1981 · 05-06-2022, 09:40 AM

All of them are biased in some way. The only way to get somewhat accurate information is to track a lot of different ones, then you can see what's going on. It's sadly not as easy as finding "one that isn't biased". This world spins everything. And even if you do you still have to take everything with a grain of salt so to speak.

Xeratul · 05-06-2022, 10:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by teckk

Deutsche Welle has a English version

Code:

yt-dlp -f 93 https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=GE_SfNVNyqk -o - | ffplay -

Sky News

Code:

yt-dlp -f 93 https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=9Auq9mYxFEE -o - | ffplay -

Newsy

Code:

yt-dlp -f 18 https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=gxJ6eJtGYFw -o - | ffplay -

Reuters

Code:

yt-dlp -f 93 https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=OsksEXx2X9M -o - | ffplay -

PBS

Code:

yt-dlp -f 18 https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=bhM2rT38JXE -o - | ffplay -

Fox

Code:

yt-dlp -f 18 https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=FACbviA9Umc -o - | ffplay -

ABC (US)

Code:

yt-dlp -f 93 https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=w_Ma8oQLmSM -o - | ffplay -

ABC (OZ)

Code:

yt-dlp -f 93 https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=vOTiJkg1voo -o - | ffplay -

One could make a shell script using select for a menu.

does youtube-dl works too with | mplayer - and the https ?

teckk · 05-06-2022, 11:18 AM

Quote:

does youtube-dl works too with | mplayer - and the https ?

Sure. I don't have it installed now, I changed over to yt-dlp. But other than a little different functionality, it works about the same.

mplayer will sometimes gives errors on streams like that. Cannot seek backward in linear streams!

ffplay, mpv, plays this ok, and I would guess that vlc does too.

Code:

url=$(yt-dlp -f 93 -g https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=vOTiJkg1voo)

ffplay/mpv "$url"

mplayer errors

Code:

"Cannot seek backward in linear streams!"

I had to let mplayer cache a little. This works.

Code:

mplayer -cache 2048 -cache-min 80 "$url"

Read:
man mplayer
man mpv
man youtube-dl
man yt-dlp
man fifo
man mkfifo

ondoho · 05-06-2022, 11:56 PM

Bias is relative.
There's a little bias, and there's a lot.
I like to choose news sources with as little bias as possible.
But even the bias can be part of the news, e.g. how certain news items are viewed in different countries.

BTW, news and media organisations are required to uphold journalistic, professional and legal standards. Amongst other things, this means stories are researched and verified before they go public. That's why I prefer to get news from there, not from social media "content creators" who aren't bound by (most) such regulations. Of course there's nothing wrong with a little opinionating every now and then, but one shouldn't mistake that for information.

ondoho · 05-06-2022, 11:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by teckk

One could make a shell script using select for a menu.

This was my first thought as soon as I saw your helpful links.
I chose mpv to play them, your script hardly needed any adjusting. Thanks.

Code:

#!/usr/bin/bash

feeds=(
#Deutsche Welle
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=GE_SfNVNyqk

#Sky News
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=9Auq9mYxFEE

#Newsy
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=gxJ6eJtGYFw

#Reuters
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=OsksEXx2X9M

#PBS
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=bhM2rT38JXE

#Fox
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=FACbviA9Umc

#ABC (US)
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=w_Ma8oQLmSM

#ABC (OZ)
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=vOTiJkg1voo
)

PS3="
Select an option.:  "

while :; do
    clear
    options=(DW Sky Newsy Reuters PBS Fox ABC-us ABC-au Quit)
    COLUMNS=1 # force vertical layout for select
    select opt in "${options[@]}"; do
        for index in "${!options[@]}"; do
            if [ "${options[$index]}" = "${opt}" ]; then
                case "$opt" in
                    Quit) clear; exit;;

                    *) #Do something with a ytdl and a media player
                        echo "You chose > $opt - ${feeds[$index]}"
                        mpv "${feeds[$index]}"
                    ;;
                esac
            fi
        done
        break
    done   
done

rtmistler · 05-07-2022, 07:54 AM

I think they all have potential bias.

What I'm interested in also is quietness:

A list of text only news sites

hish2021 · 05-08-2022, 09:27 AM

Some content creators claim to have more subscribers than channels like CNN & MSNBC. And some claim to do investigative journalism: https://thegrayzone.com/.

News without analysis is nothing despite the fancy sets and throbbing music and the multiple "brought to you by ..." reminders of who's running the show.

And many hold "fact-checkers" in high esteem but the funding of this brood is interesting.

But Mary Poppins will make things right.

wpeckham · 05-08-2022, 09:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hish2021

Some content creators claim to have more subscribers than channels like CNN & MSNBC. And some claim to do investigative journalism: https://thegrayzone.com/.

News without analysis is nothing despite the fancy sets and throbbing music and the multiple "brought to you by ..." reminders of who's running the show.

And many hold "fact-checkers" in high esteem but the funding of this brood is interesting.

But Mary Poppins will make things right.

#1 NEWS without analysis is just facts. I value just facts, but also objective analysis. Enough "just facts" can lead to being able to detect analysis that is not objective!

#2 fact checkers have value (See SNOPES) as long as they actually check and present facts and have no political agenda. Supposed "fact checkers" that cherry pick facts to prove a point are called "liars". Look for the ones that debunk conservative lies, and also debunk liberal lies, to ensure that they have no political agenda. (Bonus points for finding ones that are financed by readers and not corporate donations! Those avoid having undue commercial interests, which can be as bad or worse than the political ones! )

floppywhopper · 05-08-2022, 05:28 PM

my top 3 news outlets for International news
DW https://www.dw.com/en/
Jerusalem Post https://www.jpost.com/
WION https://www.wionews.com/

others
https://eurasiantimes.com/
https://www.stuff.co.nz/

////// · 05-14-2022, 08:29 AM

i usually watch france24, and of course yle.fi. <- national news agency of finland.

ondoho · 05-14-2022, 03:31 PM

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Originally Posted by //////

and of course yle.fi. <- national news agency of finland.

+1 for YLE's Politiikkaradio, they've had some very interesting and well-informed interviews on the current conflict. Wish I could recommend it to more people here.

sundialsvcs · 05-18-2022, 12:14 PM

When any person speaks – especially in public – bias comes out.

Add to this the fundamental reality that propaganda is universal. (Because it works.) Every nation does it, including yours. "Plan accordingly."

hish2021 · 05-19-2022, 10:49 AM

Some "counter-narrative" views here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6hD1mNrY6R4

hish2021 · 05-20-2022, 05:11 AM

And another: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kxjAhdaxfw4

wpeckham · 05-20-2022, 08:34 AM

I would never trust ANYTHING on YouTube!