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Old 06-04-2024, 03:11 PM   #3751
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While much of what you say is true, it is also true that Microsoft has dropped about 20,000 people in the last 13 months, is losing market share in the OS space, and has decimated its gaming divisions and closed game development offices worldwide.

That is not a good look!
Also https://techrights.org/n/2024/06/04/...ess_Than.shtml
All nations in Africa (which is a HUGE continent) are trending single digits (less than 10%) windows. Even Windows Server space is down.

All parts of the world are showing reduced Windows OS usage and increases in alternate operating systems.

If I was holding their stock, I would be saying "ouch"!

PS. I just found out they have dropped 1500 people in Azure space. WTF?

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Old 06-04-2024, 05:49 PM   #3752
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Maybe I am looking at this wrong, but I see the cellular phone having a hand in the 'number' of PCs and Laptops wanted. Therefore lowing the number of Windows users overall. What are reasons to have a desktop now? I look at my kids (now adults) as an example. Hardly ever power on their PCs except to occasionally game. One of my kids does use it for 3D modeling and such, so 2 of 3 really don't use the PC very often.... Otherwise the 'phone' handles their internet and comm needs. While I was visiting one of my son's family this past week, the only time they turned on the PC was to help me check in to the airline and print tickets for us to get home.... Which for the kid generation that is all handled via the 'phone'. We still like paper tickets. So who's left? Obviously corporations still will have a 'need' for PCs. As a programmer, I really like my PCs (not a gamer) and I run only Linux. So then professionals are a mixed lot (Windows/Linux/Mac). Gamers of course is a 'big' group. It is why when you go to New Egg for example, the 'focus' is gaming computers and hardware to sell us. But even gaming seems to also mean say specialized consoles, and playing on the phone are removing need for Windows dedicated box.... Point I guess I am trying to make is 'maybe' the Desktop market is 'shrinking' due to the 'phone' so Windows is on the decline for the general public. Just a thought.

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Old 06-04-2024, 06:27 PM   #3753
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MS also dominate PC gaming, and over the last decade or so, acquired some very big names, such as Zenimax (ID/Bethesda) and Activision Blizzard.
Well, Microsoft keeps buying and closing game studios - they close one and they acquire (or even: start) a new one the week after.
 
Old 06-04-2024, 06:28 PM   #3754
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As a programmer, I really like my PCs (not a gamer) and I run only Linux.
Wouldn't it make more sense for a programmer to use an operating system that actually respects standards? I mean, Linux breaks POSIX in several ways, they have their own standard "Linux Standard Base" - and most distributions even break that!
 
Old 06-04-2024, 11:45 PM   #3755
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Wouldn't it make more sense for a programmer to use an operating system that actually respects standards? I mean, Linux breaks POSIX in several ways, they have their own standard "Linux Standard Base" - and most distributions even break that!
But the development tools under Linux are massively mature and supportive of cross platform development and porting. IT is common to develop first under BSD or Linux, port to the other, and then build for BSD, LINUX, Windows, AARCH64 Linux, Android, and those little fruit machines all form a single code base.
 
Old 06-05-2024, 02:37 AM   #3756
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Well, Microsoft keeps buying and closing game studios - they close one and they acquire (or even: start) a new one the week after.
This has not been the case for the larger and most notable acquisitions, they became subsidiaries of Xbox Game Studios. The smaller players are likely being taken out / asset stripped.
 
Old 06-05-2024, 03:52 AM   #3757
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I see the pattern where most of the purchases are for the software engineers, as they can bring expertise that will be useful in their plans.

An exception was a fibre optics company my brother was CEO of. There, they got patents.
 
Old 06-05-2024, 08:28 AM   #3758
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Microsoft is trying very hard to find new areas that they can profitably exploit. "Gaming," certainly, is one of them, because "gaming" naturally pushes the hardware as hard as it can be pushed. But I do think that the company is now using its "very deep pockets" unwisely. Money can't buy everything.

However: I wouldn't volunteer to sit on their Board of Directors. Because, quite honestly, I wouldn't know better. Their biggest problem is that they have to sell a proprietary platform. Based on protective trade-secrets and dubious patents. "And then, there is Linux."

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Old 06-05-2024, 01:11 PM   #3759
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Also, M$ seems incapable of anything security minded
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Old 06-05-2024, 04:57 PM   #3760
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IT is common to develop first under BSD or Linux, port to the other, and then build for BSD, LINUX, Windows, AARCH64 Linux, Android, and those little fruit machines all form a single code base.
Enjoy trying to do that without "if Linux then..." constructs.
 
Old 06-05-2024, 05:19 PM   #3761
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Enjoy trying to do that without "if Linux then..." constructs.
Actually it is Windows that has the largest number of exceptions in my code. But, I do not speak for all projects or coders! YMMV
 
Old 06-06-2024, 02:03 PM   #3762
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Been looking for numbers for the USA. I would like a more fine-grained reports, but this tracks:
https://techrights.org/n/2024/06/06/..._America.shtml
 
  


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