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Old 09-29-2020, 09:29 PM   #3406
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They don't build things like they use to, can thank marketing research for that.

Why would anyone wanna sell you one computer for the rest of your life... (But they're not the only humans! ) or; with open sources and todays hardware we can pass our pc to the kids and they can pass it to their kids.
 
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When we hear about companies like in (e.g.) the auto industry buying patents just to lock them up putting them on a shelf,,, we should second guess patent laws? And, work around (whenever need be)them as we do!

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Old 10-12-2020, 06:43 AM   #3408
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Even with Linux, you can't run a PC forever. My first PC had 32 MB of RAM and a 500 MB hard drive. What kind of Linux could you run on that today?
 
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In the "early" days of hard drives with gigabytes of storage, I can recall a friend exclaiming something like, "Why would anyone ever need that much disk space?!".
 
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I believe it was Bill Gates who made that now infamous statement to the effect that no one would ever need more than 1MB of system RAM. That's why early x86 was so linited in that respect.
 
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I don't remember how much I paid for the BIG 40MB hard drive (which had to be partitioned into two drives) in the second computer I bought, but I do remember paying $200AU for the 1MB RAM.

It had just enough to run windows 3 provided I didn't try to use any applications, so I doubt using KDE to do anything useful would have been a success.



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Old 10-15-2020, 04:11 AM   #3412
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I believe it was Bill Gates who made that now infamous statement to the effect that no one would ever need more than 1MB of system RAM. That's why early x86 was so linited in that respect.
I had heard it was about 640KB, but here's a link, which in turn points to wikiquote, and there's plenty of debate there. Also, you can find plenty of stuff elsewhere about the whole issue, as well as debate about what other comments Gates may, or may not, have made.

https://www.computerworld.com/articl...y-say-it-.html
 
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I had heard it was about 640KB, but here's a link, which in turn points to wikiquote, and there's plenty of debate there. Also, you can find plenty of stuff elsewhere about the whole issue, as well as debate about what other comments Gates may, or may not, have made.

https://www.computerworld.com/articl...y-say-it-.html
I also seem to remember there being talk of it being a myth or urban legend.

However DOS had an imposed limit of 1M (640k of that being what was free for programmes, the rest being system reserved - the high memory), but the 80286 CPU could actually address 16MB of RAM (and the 80386 could address the same 4GB as any other 32 bit CPU). So I'm not convinced it was the chip manufacturers setting those kind of limits, as Gates has said.

himem.sys and emm386.exe allowed loading drivers for hardware such as a mouse, sound card and CDROM drivers and the MS CD extensions into high memory to free up more of that 640k and access to XMS (the memory above 1MB). But all of this was workarounds for DOS' limitations as an 8 bit operating system running on 16 bit or 32 bit processors.

From my perspective it was Microsoft and it's DOS operating system imposing these limits rather than intel.

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