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Old 05-25-2020, 07:45 PM   #3361
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Back when Android was done by "Android, Inc" I had a good deal of hope for it. But with what google has done to it, and especially trying to transition from developing for Android before AndroidX and Jetpack, versus after, at the very least I feel the documentation could have been handled a fair amount better.
You know, personally I find the Phosh desktop as one of the best current mobile designs. What it's got going for it is the simplistic interface and no need for a bloated sdk, yet. Plasma Mobile is similar but it's got more layers on it. Ubports is probably what I'd use as a daily driver but outside of html5 apps there's quite a few layers as well.

I'm basing my observations on writing a totally unoptimized test app with wxWidgets and running it on PureOS/Phosh and Plasma Mobile in qemu. Can you imagine writing a desktop/mobile app that would need only build-essentials and gui-tk-dev? And it wouldn't matter which gui-tk? Now that's what I'm talking about.
 
Old 05-25-2020, 08:38 PM   #3362
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If I ran Windows. First thing I'd install

https://www.oo-software.com/en/shutup10
 
Old 05-25-2020, 08:41 PM   #3363
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Comes built into a good script also, not sure if this is it so mileage may vary... https://gist.github.com/alirobe/7f3b34ad89a159e6daa1

Add: if that is the right one it will also install things like Inkscape and Notepad++?

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Old 05-26-2020, 08:20 AM   #3364
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just noticed that avast flags LQ as a untrustworthy site
i installed that avast extension on my virtualbox guest win 10's chrome , and at arch linux it loaded that same extension on chromium.

funny thing is that avast users are mostly windows users, thats why they have thumbed LQ down and avast classifieds LQ untrustworthy site.

https://i.imgur.com/lRKNOlw.png

here^ is screenshot of that avast online security's warning
 
Old 05-26-2020, 09:03 AM   #3365
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Funny: they didn't find any malware on this site but they still consider it untrustworthy. What happened to "innocent until proven guilty"?
 
Old 05-26-2020, 09:18 AM   #3366
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Funny: they didn't find any malware on this site but they still consider it untrustworthy. What happened to "innocent until proven guilty"?
they want to label sites to untrustworthy so they can inflate their block percentage, it looks better when they say "blocked 1.000.000 malicious sites" than saying "blocked 500.000 malicious sites", at least thats what i think :P
 
Old 05-26-2020, 10:01 AM   #3367
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Pissoff the wrong super nerds, just watch hackers...

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Old 05-26-2020, 07:48 PM   #3368
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There are plenty of sites which distribute software. On most of those sites I've visited, if I visit the site while running on Linux, the site will offer me some type of Linux related package to download. When it comes to avast, I've visited the site while running Linux, and tried to download. What was downloaded was a .EXE file. If avast can't even determine what type of OS is in use, or doesn't care to, I would tend to feel that avast isn't very trustworthy!

If I were building any type of security related software, I would tend to think that the first requirement, would be accuracy!!

It would have been one thing if their response to an attempt to download, was to simply say that they have a product only for MS-Windows, not Linux. Although, they seem to indicate that they provide some products for Android, iOS, etc. Since they have something for Android, I wouldn't have thought that Linux, in a generic sense, apart from Android, should be totally beyond their reach.

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Old 05-26-2020, 11:05 PM   #3369
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People report to that site; so if they were hacked by hackers, on a hacking sight...

By no means am I using the media's definition of black hat hacking!
 
Old 05-27-2020, 12:52 AM   #3370
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By no means am I using the media's definition of black hat hacking!
Ya! Yeeeeeeeears ago, the term "Hacker" was originally a person who some people felt had very good computer skills; it was a positive categorization. If instead someone was using computer skills for a negative, anti-social, or actually illegal purpose, the term used was "Cracker". Or if a phone system was involved "Phreaker". Back when it was Bell Unix versus BSD, while I was employed as a so called "Unix Kernel Engineer", to make modifications that companies wanted to be made to Unix Kernels, which they licensed for their use, I was perfectly happy to be known as a "Unix Kernel Hacker", merely based upon positive comments some people had made about my skills, nothing negative, anti-social, or illegal.

Then some "News" person overheard a "Cracker's" skill being complimented, without regard to the context of the negative purpose to which it was being applied, and the term "Hacker" became popularized with a negative connotation. So then we had to develop "colored hats", be careful to categorize the "Hacking", is it "Ethical hacking"/"White Hat Hacking", or something else, to differentiate between one type of usage of "Hacking skills" and another. Before that, I believe I even had the term "Hacker" on my resume, as a selling point, based on positive compliments people had made about my skills, nothing negative, anti-social, or illegal. But after the change to the default negative usage of the term "Hacker", I had to be careful.

In a sense, I feel it's somewhat sad. Yet, the language evolves by common agreement...

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Old 06-17-2020, 07:01 AM   #3371
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I've heard the term hack, in this context, predates "computers?" Back when reversengineering hardware ment hacking them apart?
 
Old 06-17-2020, 07:51 AM   #3372
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Hacking used to mean "coding" in the 70's I believe, but as rigor mentioned, the meaning has changed. I am a gray hat or as I refer to myself: "pen tester". Not all pen testers are that; I am somewhere in between a black hat and a white hat. My main intentions are good but I have used what could possibly be construed as questionable means to accomplish them.

Personally, I would never use the term "hacker" on a resume but that's just me. "Penetration tester" is perfectly acceptable in industry.
 
Old 06-17-2020, 08:12 AM   #3373
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Hacking used to mean "coding" in the 70's I believe, but as rigor mentioned, the meaning has changed. I am a gray hat or as I refer to myself: "pen tester". Not all pen testers are that; I am somewhere in between a black hat and a white hat. My main intentions are good but I have used what could possibly be construed as questionable means to accomplish them.

Personally, I would never use the term "hacker" on a resume but that's just me. "Penetration tester" is perfectly acceptable in industry.
I was talking about a time back when "hacker" was being used by some folks as a positive term, someone who kept "hacking away" at code, overcoming a problem. But perhaps my biggest failing it that I'm often in too much of a hurry to get something done. At one point, when I needed to update my resume, I believe I briefly used the term "hacker". Shortly after I did it, I realized that the term might well not mean anything to someone in HR, and so removed it. I've sometimes wished that it was an accepted standard for there to be at least two forms of what would be conceptually the same resume. One for technical folks such as a hiring manager, and one for non-technical folks, perhaps those in HR.
 
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Exactly - it used to be a positive term but the media has given it negative connotations.
 
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Hacking used to mean "coding" in the 70's I believe, but as rigor mentioned, the meaning has changed. I am a gray hat or as I refer to myself: "pen tester". Not all pen testers are that; I am somewhere in between a black hat and a white hat. My main intentions are good but I have used what could possibly be construed as questionable means to accomplish them.

Personally, I would never use the term "hacker" on a resume but that's just me. "Penetration tester" is perfectly acceptable in industry.
It only changed "meaning" (pos to neg context) because the people hearing it are ignorant. It's also a gauge for we smart folks who know the diff that the person taking it on neg context simply are not well versed in the field. New buzz words daily. Not too long ago it was "cloud", now it's "devops" and "guardrails". Makes me laugh.

https://www.differencebetween.com/di...and-vs-hacker/
 
  


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