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Old 05-09-2019, 03:14 AM   #3136
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Because they were told FUD by you people.
 
Old 05-09-2019, 09:08 AM   #3137
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Because they were told FUD by you people.
Right; so I suppose that's why they come to this site, as opposed to us going to them, telling them to use Linux instead of Winblows ? Because they just take some random person's word for it on the Internet, that they just must use Linux instead of Winblows ? Because presumably they can't think for themselves, I see...
 
Old 05-09-2019, 09:29 AM   #3138
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Too many Linsuxians flood Windows forums with their "you still use Windows lulz n00b come to Linsux we are so much better than you" crap, that's why they come here.
 
Old 05-09-2019, 09:51 AM   #3139
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Too many Linsuxians flood Windows forums with their "you still use Windows lulz n00b come to Linsux we are so much better than you" crap, that's why they come here.
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...Because they just take some random person's word for it on the Internet, that they just must use Linux instead of Winblows ? Because presumably they can't think for themselves, I see...
LOL, you're a funny guy, I'll give you that.
 
Old 05-09-2019, 10:09 AM   #3140
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I agree with you: People who switch from Windows to Linsux presumably can't think for themselves.
 
Old 05-09-2019, 11:03 AM   #3141
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I agree with you: People who switch from Windows to Linsux presumably can't think for themselves.
I take it you didn't notice the smiley ? But we both know you did...

So if I may retort...

Most people I see here who give up and go back to Winblow$, give up because they find that they actually do need to do some thinking if they want to stick with Linux - particularly if they run into a problem. In fact, if I couldn't and/or didn't want to do any thinking of my own, I would quite happily go back to Winblow$...

So your statement doesn't correspond to reality...

So keep digging.
 
Old 05-09-2019, 12:28 PM   #3142
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I find it relatively humorous to think that a person who thinks Linux and software that runs on Linux is crummy, thinks plan9 stuff is somehow less crummy. Maybe because it's really crude? Or hard to run/use?

P.S. I have run plan9 myself. It's ancient...
 
Old 05-09-2019, 01:35 PM   #3143
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What does that have to do with anything?
 
Old 05-09-2019, 01:50 PM   #3144
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Am I the only one here who feels that this thread is going round in circles?
 
Old 05-09-2019, 02:43 PM   #3145
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It's been going around in circles for over 200 pages. That's the whole point in fact. It probably serves to keep all of the "Mickey$haft Winblow$ vs Linsux" stuff all in one place.

I find it rather ironic that Plan 9 has now entered the mix - an OS which has barely any software available, not even a modern browser and could only be of interest to those involved in specific research. I'd be genuinely interested in the use cases for Plan 9, I remember someone on the FreeBSD forums was a serious user, but can't recall exactly what they used it for. Quite intriguing as one of it's original developers was none other than Ken Thompson. As ever, it doesn't matter how brilliant a concept or how innovative it may be, an inferior "competitor" can easily dominate. It's called business...

YesItsMe, perhaps inadvertently makes the point that you're stuck with Windows if you want overpriced commercial production software such as Photoshop or Illustrator. While I've seen some brilliant stuff done with the gimp (in my opinion it's the artist first and foremost, then the tool), in a professional setting the adobe stuff and a whole host of other commercial software is unfortunately a must.

Windows is still firmly rooted in place when it comes to production workstations, even treading on Apple's traditional old turf in DTP, offering a cheaper alternative. MS achieved a lot of this using familiar old tactics, over the last 20 or so years, by providing MS applications for Apple, so making the transition easier and more attractive and beating off it's competitors there. It's business.

Linux dominates in servers, in the WWW, as the backbone of the internet, in supercomputers, in embedded, in IoT, etc. It has become the "jack of all trades" workhorse, which MS can no longer ignore. They can't extinguish it, but they can get enough influence and control over it as others such as IBM/Red Hat, Oracle, HP, Intel, etc have done to become players.

When it comes to Linux, or any free software, MS obviously do not have any pure motives, despite the propaganda, but neither do the well known corporations now sitting very comfortably within the Linux Foundation. It's all business and none of those care about GPL or free software. By bankrolling those projects and doing the minimum to comply with free licences, they effectively own them.

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Old 05-09-2019, 02:53 PM   #3146
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Plan 9 is not a good everyday desktop system. However, if all one does with a computer is to surf the web and they cannot imagine other purposes, I understand why they'd use Linux. After all, "it has a shiny web browser" could be enough reason and then they'll just take the first OS that comes into their mind ... which is not necessarily the best one.

I use it because of the awesome combination of fossil and venti. And for research purposes, of course - never settle.
But this has nothing to do with "Windows v Linux" and I wonder why it came into this discussion at all...
 
Old 05-09-2019, 02:54 PM   #3147
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@cynwulf,
Well said!


Put another way, "It's a poor craftsman who blames his tools."
 
  


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