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Old 12-05-2018, 02:13 PM   #2971
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A while ago, I registered a domain to annoy the hell out of people.
Your life choices are successful, I find your posts usually immature and annoying [*].

The fact that you take pride in your own 11 year old behavior having successfully annoyed another real 11 year old is really... strange, unless perhaps you really are a 9 year old and imagine yourself as somehow sticking it to the big kids.

Intentionally annoying others, in particular random people you do not even know, is a particularly harmful form of disrespect for others, harmful to yourself, harmful to others and harmful to the state of the human family in general. I hope that as you mature you will come to realize that, for all our good.

Have you ever considered registering a domain and putting your talents to use to help random people you do not know? Rhetorical question, you know the answer and others can make a good guess.

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Old 12-05-2018, 02:15 PM   #2972
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Have you ever considered registering a domain and putting your talents to use to help random people you do not know?
That's basically what my other dozen domains do.
 
Old 12-05-2018, 02:34 PM   #2973
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That's basically what my other dozen domains do.
(turns out YesItsMe is a number cruncher at $IT_COMPANY, which owns said dozen domains)

i would say show us some proof, but that's not really possible, so i'm just going to have to say that i don't believe you.
 
Old 12-05-2018, 02:41 PM   #2974
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(turns out YesItsMe is a number cruncher at $IT_COMPANY, which owns said dozen domains)

i would say show us some proof, but that's not really possible, so i'm just going to have to say that i don't believe you.
Looks more like a clickbait spammer to me. As alluded to in my previous post I shall assume that any link posted by YesItsMe is clickbait and potentially spam or worse until I see proof otherwise.
 
Old 12-05-2018, 09:40 PM   #2975
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There's opinions and matter...
 
Old 12-13-2018, 07:17 AM   #2976
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We interrupt this discussion to bring you a good, old-fashioned* Windows vs Linux anecdote.

Yesterday I was trying to copy some information from an old and scratched DVD to a Windows 7 box. The drive kept spinning up and down, and after several attempts of several minutes the system couldn't read the disc. I rebooted the same box from an old copy of sysresccd and it mounted the scratched DVD first time, allowing recovery of all the data. The DVD was originally burned on a Linux box, so it could be a case of poor standards-compliance on one side or the other, but other discs burned on the same box worked fine so I suspect Windows is simply more sensitive to (one kind of) corruption.

*A very similar thing happened to me 18 years ago, but that time it was a floppy disc and the OSes in question were Windows 95/DOS 7 and MS-DOS 6.2.

We now return you to your regular rants.
 
Old 12-17-2018, 03:33 AM   #2977
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*A very similar thing happened to me 18 years ago, but that time it was a floppy disc and the OSes in question were Windows 95/DOS 7 and MS-DOS 6.2.
"Track misalignment" or whatever it was called. Where a disk with data saved from one diskette drive is not readable on another, usually due to the heads being aligned differently.
 
Old 12-17-2018, 07:31 AM   #2978
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"Track misalignment" or whatever it was called. Where a disk with data saved from one diskette drive is not readable on another, usually due to the heads being aligned differently.
Possibly a contributing factor, but when it came to be read, the same drive was being used by both operating systems.
 
Old 01-09-2019, 08:07 PM   #2979
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systemd strikes again.
https://www.qualys.com/2019/01/09/sy...ystem-down.txt
 
Old 01-09-2019, 08:14 PM   #2980
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The Linux kernel doesn't require systemd, and there ARE distros that don't use systemd.
 
Old 01-10-2019, 12:20 AM   #2981
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Without Systemd there's vulnerabilities, it's a computer.
 
Old 01-10-2019, 01:13 AM   #2982
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i love that bugs/exploits are always immediately found on Linux systems.
 
Old 01-10-2019, 01:17 AM   #2983
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i love that bugs/exploits are always immediately found on Linux systems.
Which could take months, maybe even years on Windoze...
 
Old 01-10-2019, 01:37 AM   #2984
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The bugs behind my link are literally several years old.
 
Old 01-10-2019, 05:19 AM   #2985
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https://www.theregister.co.uk/2019/0...d_bugs_qualys/

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CVE-2018-16864, the company says, entered systemd's codebase in April 2013 (systemd v203) and became exploitable in February 2016 (systemd v230). While working on an exploit for another Linux flaw, Qualys researchers found that if you pass several megabytes of command-line arguments to a program that calls syslog(), systemd-journald will crash.
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CVE-2018-16865 appeared in December 2011 (systemd v38) and became exploitable in April 2013 (systemd v201), Qualys says.
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The third bug, CVE-2018-16866, appeared in June 2015 (systemd v221) and, Qualys says, was fixed inadvertently in August 2018. In code where the flaw still exists, it could allow an attacker to read out of bounds information, resulting in information leakage.
They're older bugs, but older have been found lurking in some other software over the years.

Certainly not a Linux kernel bug but a systemd bug...

However "Linux", to use the wider definition (as the term which has become synonymous with RMS' awkward "GNU/Linux"), is affected by this and only "Linux" as systemd is a "Linux proprietary" technology - by design.

"Linux" to most people means Red Hat/SUSE/Debian - Linux based operating systems used by enterprise, which have adopted systemd.

So this does mean it's a "Linux problem", no getting away from that. The fortunes of "Linux" are now tied up with systemd, like it nor not. It's not about the kernel, but about the whole host of subsystems which have been replaced by systemd specific implementations. They have been replaced by people who don't care about UNIX, but who are on a commercially motivated quest to create a market for Red Hat support contracts.

As the GNU userland became part and parcel of "Linux", so now has systemd, so what reflects poorly on systemd also reflects poorly on "Linux" - simply by association.

We had people on this site and others, who spent a great deal of time, a few years back, gleefully rubbishing and trashing sysvinit in their quest to make it obsolete in their own minds and justify the adoption of a very big and very complex "solution"... which they spent almost as much time advocating as helpful volunteer apologists.

The two cannot now be separated. There is embedded Linux (and Android, etc) and there is "Linux" as described above and what this forum mostly covers.
Everything else is niche.

systemd is just very bad code... it's not the only bad code around, but it's relatively new, all encompassing bad code which has been foisted on everyone whether they like it or not.

If you read the various 'BSD mailing lists and even the FreeBSD forums, as I do, you will find numerous disgruntled Linux sysadmins and professionals forced to use systemd at work because of the decisions of the likes of Red Hat and SUSE.

You don't need to take my word for it, you can do the research and seek out the opinions of professionals (such as ESR). We know about very bad code, we know enough about troublesome code, overly complex solutions which are by design, less modular, less portable, more prone to bugs and re-implementing things needlessly. We already saw notable "open source" projects which were assumed to have "eyeballs" but which were no more secure than any proprietary alternatives - and in fact, in certain cases found to be in a worse state.

There is the general assumption from some that developers working on closed source software are simply "hiding bugs" and writing crap code, the assumption that there is no review/audit. There is also the assumption that they're being paid large sums of money to do so and that there will be no repercussions if said code returns to bite them on the arse at some point.

If I were still running Linux I'd probably run something like Slackware rather than getting on board the runaway train of development, which, to quote ralphbz at the FreeBSD forums, "...has gone down the path Windows blazed in the 90s and 2000s...".

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