Because Shiny Things Are Fun - The New New Windows v Linux Thread

Originally Posted by Zandak411 Nah, Windows10 looks AWESOME, but does not come anywhere near how AWESOME Linux is.. Windows10 is sleek and shiny but I'll take Linux, It's sleeker and shinier. I don't knock Windows anymore, Linux has won. to Quote Linux Torvalds "When Microsoft writes code for Linux, I have won." Skype for Linux(written by Microsoft to run in Linux) need I say more?

microsoft was the biggest contributer of lines of code to the linux kernel for years because of the emergence cloud computing to make virtualized windows run faster on hosted linux machines.

Originally Posted by Dillinger86 Dude I switched to 10 after years of running win7 and it's a good OS. Of course there are drawn backs. I am an avid gamer and steam doesn't run so well in linux,I like to keep shit simple. I run Ubuntu on my laptop. I've had my steam account for 12 years now and I have over a 100 games.

Simple Solution, Run Windows10 in a virtualbox inside of Ubuntu., It works, I do it on my Mint box.

Originally Posted by Zandak411 Simple Solution, Run Windows10 in a virtualbox inside of Ubuntu., It works, I do it on my Mint box.

In order to do that you must purchase a license for Windows and you have no way to run modern games under Windows, if that were your reason.

Originally Posted by 273 In order to do that you must purchase a license for Windows and you have no way to run modern games under Windows, if that were your reason.

#1., I assumed that Windows10 license had already been obtained. #2.,I also assumed that the compputer in use was a modern computer(ie, 64 it with a quad core processor and at least 8 gigs of RAM). I don't know about you but, I don't have any problems running modern Windows games in a VM on my Linux box.

Not trying to argue with you, just trying to be helpful.

CPU....AMD quadcore running at 3.6 GHz, 16 Gigs of RAM,
Video Card NVidia GForce 610

Originally Posted by Zandak411 #1., I assumed that Windows10 license had already been obtained. #2.,I also assumed that the compputer in use was a modern computer(ie, 64 it with a quad core processor and at least 8 gigs of RAM). I don't know about you but, I don't have any problems running modern Windows games in a VM on my Linux box. Not trying to argue with you, just trying to be helpful. CPU....AMD quadcore running at 3.6 GHz, 16 Gigs of RAM, Video Card NVidia GForce 610

I think we're typing about different things here and not sure what I'm missing. You can play Battlefield beta in a virtual machine? If so, how?
Does Metro 2033 Redux work better native, under WINE or in a Windows VM?
How do you chose which graphics card to use for the host and which for the guest?
Sorry, I'll start a new thread if needed, so many questions!

Originally Posted by 273 I think we're typing about different things here and not sure what I'm missing. You can play Battlefield beta in a virtual machine? If so, how? Does Metro 2033 Redux work better native, under WINE or in a Windows VM? How do you chose which graphics card to use for the host and which for the guest? Sorry, I'll start a new thread if needed, so many questions!

As far as I know: If you have Windows running in a VM on you Linux box, any game that is playable in Windows will run on you VM(provided that it is Windows)Don't know about Redux
I can't answer about you Graphics Card as I only use one in my machine and my VM uses the same card.

Originally Posted by Zandak411 As far as I know: If you have Windows running in a VM on you Linux box, any game that is playable in Windows will run on you VM(provided that it is Windows)Don't know about Redux I can't answer about you Graphics Card as I only use one in my machine and my VM uses the same card.

I think, then, that you are sadly mistaken. Any game which requires graphics acceleration is extremely unlikely to run in a virtual machine unless you have given it a dedicated graphics card.

Originally Posted by 273 I think, then, that you are sadly mistaken. Any game which requires graphics acceleration is extremely unlikely to run in a virtual machine unless you have given it a dedicated graphics card.

You may be right, but I have never had a problem running any Windows program in my VM(Windows10Pro)including Windows Games.

Originally Posted by Zandak411 You may be right, but I have never had a problem running any Windows program in my VM(Windows10Pro)including Windows Games.

Anything that can use the CPU for graphics -- that is old 3D games and, possibly (though I've not tried) more modern games with no or very simplke 3D may work but anything which requires graphcs acelleration, incluing stuff that just about runs on an Intel on-die GPU, fails.
If you've a different experience I'd like to hear of it because I'm always toying with the idea of buying a copy of Windows to run in a VM on my desktop and do everything I may need Windows for so I can replace the hard drive in my dual-boot laptop with an SSD and only run Debian.

Originally Posted by 273 Anything that can use the CPU for graphics -- that is old 3D games and, possibly (though I've not tried) more modern games with no or very simplke 3D may work but anything which requires graphcs acelleration, incluing stuff that just about runs on an Intel on-die GPU, fails. If you've a different experience I'd like to hear of it because I'm always toying with the idea of buying a copy of Windows to run in a VM on my desktop and do everything I may need Windows for so I can replace the hard drive in my dual-boot laptop with an SSD and only run Debian.

I'm not sure if every game(resource intensive games, may not work)works on my current machine(AMD 3.6GHz)But My New build will be all Intel:

Asus H170 Pro Gaming Mobo
MSI Power edition GeForce 660Ti Video Card
64 Gig os DDR4 2600 RAM
Intel I-7 6700K 4.0 GHz
Sisco 5 G Wi-Fi USB adapter

I really do not have problems now running MS games in my VM, but I'm almost certain that I will not have any Problems with my new build.

Originally Posted by Zandak411 I'm not sure if every game(resource intensive games, may not work)works on my current machine(AMD 3.6GHz)But My New build will be all Intel: Asus H170 Pro Gaming Mobo MSI Power edition GeForce 660Ti Video Card 64 Gig os DDR4 2600 RAM Intel I-7 6700K 4.0 GHz Sisco 5 G Wi-Fi USB adapter I really do not have problems now running MS games in my VM, but I'm almost certain that I will not have any Problems with my new build.

I feel like I'm being trolled here, though I'm sure that is not your intention.
Which new games work?

I was always under the impression that there were Virtual Graphics drivers written specifically to run in Virtual Machines.
It does not matter what OS the Host is running.

Originally Posted by dave@burn-it.co.uk I was always under the impression that there were Virtual Graphics drivers written specifically to run in Virtual Machines. It does not matter what OS the Host is running.

There are but they do not allow OpenGL or DirectX type acceleration.

Really, google it, Bing it, whatever.

I don't actually do it,but this is from the manual:

Finally, if the Guest Additions are installed, 3D graphics and 2D video for guest applications can be accelerated; see Section 4.5, “Hardware-accelerated graphics”.

I've never had a machine powerful enough to want to play games inside a VM.

Originally Posted by dave@burn-it.co.uk I don't actually do it,but this is from the manual: I've never had a machine powerful enough to want to play games inside a VM.

I thought you had something meaningful to bring to the discussion as you stated you had played games in your VM?