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Old 05-15-2015, 06:47 AM   #2296
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I'm using Windows Insider Preview v10.0.10061 with the "fast" channel of updates on one of my desktop systems at home on a daily basis and frankly - the most annoying issue to me is lack of in-depth control of its core tasks as it was possible in the previous versions. Unattended updates were never so unexpected and CPU extensive (as soon as OS detects user idle/away, it loads the processor with own tasks, see example attachment). For gamers RuntimeBroker, [task|svc]host processes will be a nightmare, the only effective solution to avoid rapid long CPU usage peaks is to suspend it when required with Process Explorer so the hardware is focused on what you want and not some random crap. Of course the performance drop is perfectly noticeable and when you want to tweak it yourself, most of the services and components configuration changes gets overwritten by Microsoft defaults with the next Windows Update run without even a notice. Completely out of [end|power]user control. Not for somebody expecting system stability comparable its previous releases with carefully scheduled development plan, rather for a "wild madman" who wants to see the newest binaries running with small effort and for the cost of some data loss.

If you plan to install Windows 10 next to 8.1 or other version/system, the installer may not detect it correctly resulting with wrong boot loader setup of single system. Also my BIOS stopped to issue a power-off after a clean system shutdown call and a call for a soft restart resulted in unnaturally long delay after the system finished unloading. This got fixed after weeks of waiting but I don't restart/shutdown it too frequently (once a week if required by the updates).

Normally such a company issue periodic payrolls to its beta-testers for reports and analyses. In this case it seems to be gathered semi-automatically by Error Reporting service and can be additionally manually submitted by user with various Feedback apps and built-ins. All for free benefit of the company... It's good to keep your network traffic under strict control.

I hope the reason is its development state of "preview" as opposed to all the RTM releases that I used in the past. And also I hope all this bugs to be fixed when released for general public. I am completely not convinced by Microsoft way of software development/testing according to my personal experience during last months. Debian testing releases are way more stable and much better maintained than Microsoft does it with its version 10.

But this is my personal experience reported only partially here, there are some "nice things" but I don't consider them as important as these of writing. Try it yourself with luck, preferably on less important box. IMO testing is always fun and enjoyable especially when taking easy and with a grain of salt. ;-)
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Old 05-15-2015, 03:05 PM   #2297
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Frankly, I wouldn't use any version of Windows after XP. Microsoft started putting in all sorts of crap in all of the Windows after Vista came out. I'd recommend going with Linux, one of the BSD variants, Macintosh, or Hackintosh. If you really want to get adventurous there is the later versions of Minix and Hurd to try out.
Macs have a lot of crap as well.
http://arstechnica.com/security/2015...ttackers-root/
http://www.intego.com/mac-security-b...ability-chart/
http://bgr.com/2014/12/30/mac-os-x-thunderbolt-hack/
About a year ago, I thought about getting a Macbook Pro. You guess why I didn't. And if these are just coming out, how long have the pros (NSA, Mossad, MI6, etc.) known about these? Ever since OS X came out? What about Windows, which is using the same NT (albeit updated) from the early 90s? I feel a lot better with a fast paced Linux distro that comes out with a major update every six months than a cesspool of Windows or Mac. My old saying "diversity is security" keeps proving itself.

EDIT: Also just remembered about Intel sharing their encryption algorithms with the NSA. That gives you a warm fuzzy feeling, huh? Makes me want a custom PPC AmigaOne X5000.

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Old 05-15-2015, 03:27 PM   #2298
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I miss powerpc architecture.
 
Old 05-16-2015, 01:07 AM   #2299
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Windows rocks - you have a plethora of softwares. In comparison Linux has nothing. Linux has no single very good software of drawings, office,... compared to windows or mac.
 
Old 05-16-2015, 01:19 PM   #2300
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I hate anything and everything from microsoft...I EVEN HATE fixing my family computers which runs windows. I always yawn with boredom when I have to touch this operating system.

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Old 05-17-2015, 05:13 PM   #2301
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@Xeratul, I have never seen or heard about any serious core network systems based on windows. All of them are different flavours of Unix. The end-user market was indeed focused on proprietary licensed systems but I feel like this started to change recent years.
 
Old 05-17-2015, 07:04 PM   #2302
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Windows rocks - you have a plethora of softwares. In comparison Linux has nothing. Linux has no single very good software of drawings, office,... compared to windows or mac.
LOL. If you like popular software such as Photoshop or Battlefield or whatever other software you mean, say that they rock, not Windows. Windows and Microsoft have nothing to do with them. Windows itself is at best an average operating system. Where it beats Linux is popularity, which, as you know, is by no means a measure of quality.
 
Old 05-18-2015, 05:59 AM   #2303
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Windows rocks - you have a plethora of softwares. In comparison Linux has nothing. Linux has no single very good software of drawings, office,... compared to windows or mac.
I find this not only mistaken but patently absurd, amounting to little more than FUD. We can start with the backbone of the internet, the LAMP stack, which microsoft, let alone windows had jack to do with. The Linux clones for Office have been good for many years and get better every year, despite MS's attempts to break it. I doubt you have sufficient experience with Linux "software of drawings, office" to come to such a conclusion and make such a statement. Furthermore isn't it curious that while Linux, and even Mac, do their level best to not break Windows compatibility but rather to provide it while Windows sabotages both Mac and Linux in an extremely high percentage of cases, all the while gaining from both? Microsoft has for decades enjoyed a 90+% market share yet they act as if they are in danger of folding and closing their doors because of two systems that total a paltry 3-5% on the Desktop. In normal life this would be like Mike Tyson beating up 4 year old girls. Wouldn't that make you wonder just exactly what he was afraid of?
 
Old 05-18-2015, 08:25 AM   #2304
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I frankly think that "this vs. that" comparisons ... entertaining though they are (and especially since when MS-Windows is the butt of the joke ... really don't make too much sense.

Ordinarily, your choice of base operating-system is made for you: you have a particular key piece of software that you need to run, and it runs (best) on X. Or, your company might have standardized its platform on X (except for the graphic artists, who get to run Macs).

However, one problem that Microsoft is running into, is that major corporate users aren't upgrading. And one of the key reasons being cited is that MS-Windows does more and more things "that Microsoft, alone, wants it to do," giving users less and less control (or, awareness) of what it actually does. The behavior that negatively-impacts your game could have far more serious implications in a business situation. Companies respond to this by sticking to earlier versions: Windows-7, say, or even XP. And so, Microsoft continues to find itself being forced to continue support for its work of more than ten years ago, in spite of repeated attempts to "sunset" them.

The highly-modular nature of Unix/Linux, not to mention the sheer number of processor-types that it supports, continues to be a business advantage that MS-Windows cannot match.
 
Old 05-18-2015, 11:47 AM   #2305
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Windows rocks - you have a plethora of softwares. In comparison Linux has nothing. Linux has no single very good software of drawings, office,... compared to windows or mac.
I think you have the wrong forum...
http://answers.microsoft.com/en-us

Linux is better because you control it. You have no control (except for your WiFi switch) over what M$ or CrApple sends back to their borg.

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LOL. If you like popular software such as Photoshop or Battlefield or whatever other software you mean, say that they rock, not Windows. Windows and Microsoft have nothing to do with them. Windows itself is at best an average operating system. Where it beats Linux is popularity, which, as you know, is by no means a measure of quality.
Adobe is definitely anti-Linux, along with AutoCAD and Microsoft. If Adobe would make Photoshop for Linux in general (not just for Chromebooks, which I guarantee will be dumbed down), AutoCAD/Solidworks for Linux, and Office for Linux, there would be no stopping Linux. It'd grow like those dandelions in your yard. Blink and you have a meadow. So until they start supporting Linux, they should not be considered any good for Linux and suitable alternatives should be made. GIMP is a good start.

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I miss powerpc architecture.
Yup. Here too.

www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ic0dkf1iFOY
http://www.toptechnews.com/article/i...d=1210074BURI1
 
Old 05-18-2015, 01:40 PM   #2306
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And another thread merged with the Megathread.
 
Old 05-18-2015, 02:46 PM   #2307
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Adobe is definitely anti-Linux, along with AutoCAD and Microsoft. If Adobe would make Photoshop for Linux in general (not just for Chromebooks, which I guarantee will be dumbed down), AutoCAD/Solidworks for Linux, and Office for Linux, there would be no stopping Linux. It'd grow like those dandelions in your yard. Blink and you have a meadow. So until they start supporting Linux, they should not be considered any good for Linux and suitable alternatives should be made. GIMP is a good start.
You totally missed my point. I was neither criticising nor advocating Photoshop or any other software. I was simply pointing out that listing 3rd party software (be it Photoshop or Gimp) as a basis of an evaluation of an operating system does not make sense. Adobe (and other big software vendors) has nothing to do with MS so technically speaking it can't be used to justify the claim whether Windows rocks or sucks. It is like saying: Audi rocks - It comes with so many different colours. Obviously, the number of colours a car is sold in does not say anything about how good the car is.
Consider the following sentences (Photoshop being here just an example of a successful proprietary product):

Windows is a good operating system BECAUSE it has Photoshop (invalid - there's no relationship between the two)
Linux is a poor operating system because it has Gimp (invalid - same thing)

Windows is a good operating system AND it has Photoshop (valid statement)
Windows is a poor operating system BUT it has Photoshop (valid statement)

Linux is a good operating system AND it has GIMP (valid statement)
 
Old 05-18-2015, 11:56 PM   #2308
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Me three.

Personally I have never found reason to pay for overpriced photoshop. GIMP takes care of all the editing needs
 
Old 05-19-2015, 01:46 PM   #2309
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If Adobe would make Photoshop for Linux in general (not just for Chromebooks, which I guarantee will be dumbed down), AutoCAD/Solidworks for Linux, and Office for Linux, there would be no stopping Linux.
I'm with you.
 
Old 06-14-2015, 01:48 PM   #2310
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Windows itself is at best an average operating system. Where it beats Linux is popularity, which, as you know, is by no means a measure of quality.
I agree. It's hard for linux to be as popular as windows as a desktop OS since windows is forced onto the consumers where they have no choice on a pre-installed operating system.
 
  


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