Because Shiny Things Are Fun - The New New Windows v Linux Thread

Nah, Godwin always loses a discussion.

Originally Posted by YesItsMe Nah, Godwin always loses a discussion.

What relevance does that have to anything?

Some more M$ reading:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United...Microsoft_Corp.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Micros...p_v_Commission

They'll do anything to make a buck, won't they?

$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

Originally Posted by 273 The difference is that M$ is shorthand for "That criminal organisation which deliberately pent money trying to destroy Linux and many other technologies.".

Personally I don't defend corporations like Red Hat and Canonical...

Though MS seems nicer lately, "business is business" and personally I think the old ingrained culture of "embrace, extend, and extinguish" is still alive and well, it's just been put on ice for now. MS is still patent trolling, just by proxy rather than directly. But as other corporate entities have essentially "owned" Linux, MS may be wising up (just a little)...

with $$ you can build a city, with cash

https://www.thestreet.com/story/1438...mart-city.html

not sure why crapple hasnt done anything like this either, imagine a whole city and every tech item there is running crapple-OS

http://techrights.org/2018/01/18/mic...tion-in-cloud/

Yes, Microsoft is very “excited” about patent extortion against GNU/Linux. They just say it with a smile and euphemistically call it “Azure IP Advantage”.[...] As Microsoft also controls some of the [patent] trolls, it can help determine who gets sued. The potential for abuse is vast. Don’t expect Red Hat or Canonical or even the Linux Foundation to say anything about it. The Linux Foundation is far too busy sucking up to Microsoft this week, having received Microsoft cash for silence and complicity. Even when Microsoft attacks Linux with patents the Linux Foundation will say nothing at all because these attacks often come from proxies, just as the OIN’s CEO [Keith Bergelt] warned us a long time ago.

Yep...

Sounds like business, what would Trump say?

Skid Row grows...

Don't have to believe in e*volution to except it within eg computing, my money's on freedom.

when almost all distros switched to systemd linux caught up with windoze in the spy ware department and the total number of bugs that don't get fixed
so most of the good that was linux has been thrown out

don't ever forget that red hat is a U.S. government employee first and foremost

Here, have a tinfoil hat... https://www.sammichespsychmeds.com/a...bly-hilarious/

Systemd is open source.

Originally Posted by rob.rice when almost all distros switched to systemd linux caught up with windoze in the spy ware department and the total number of bugs that don't get fixed so most of the good that was linux has been thrown out don't ever forget that red hat is a U.S. government employee first and foremost

Sorry I don't understand what you are trying to say.

Are you trying to say Linux has lots of bugs and not as stable as Windows 7 or Windows 10?

Originally Posted by jsbjsb001 Some more M$ reading: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United...Microsoft_Corp. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Micros...p_v_Commission They'll do anything to make a buck, won't they? $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

More ways Microsoft is making money is they no longer allow you to download Windows ISO any more.

Even if you have Windows product key.

Before you can download the Windows ISO if you put in prucduct key.

Originally Posted by jamison20000e Here, have a tinfoil hat... https://www.sammichespsychmeds.com/a...bly-hilarious/ Systemd is open source.

And that does not disprove his point. Remember people used to say that 1984 was tinfoil...go back and reread that book along with Brave New World, and see how many of those tinfoil hat ideas came true or are coming true.

Originally Posted by nec207 More ways Microsoft is making money is they no longer allow you to download Windows ISO any more. Even if you have Windows product key. Before you can download the Windows ISO if you put in prucduct key.

I still can download evaluation versions here: https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/eval...-10-enterprise It is valid for 90 days.

For Server 2012 and 2016 you can also download an evaluation copy which is valid for 180 days. I know that after the evaluation license expires you can enter a purchased product key and continue to use it. I am not sure if that is also the case for W10.

I fiercely hate Microsoft for their crappy and overly complicated OS, and I hate licensed software in general because the software is designed to impose limitations which can or cannot be overcome by purchasing more licenses. But the statement you cannot download ISO's anymore seems to be inaccurate.

jlinkels

Originally Posted by jlinkels I still can download evaluation versions here: https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/eval...-10-enterprise It is valid for 90 days. For Server 2012 and 2016 you can also download an evaluation copy which is valid for 180 days. I know that after the evaluation license expires you can enter a purchased product key and continue to use it. I am not sure if that is also the case for W10. I fiercely hate Microsoft for their crappy and overly complicated OS, and I hate licensed software in general because the software is designed to impose limitations which can or cannot be overcome by purchasing more licenses. But the statement you cannot download ISO's anymore seems to be inaccurate. jlinkels

I'm talking about non retail versions of Windows.

If you buy Windows that product key will work and you can download the ISO if you want.

If you buy computer say a HP or Dell and it has Windows on it well you cannot use that product key as it is not retail version of Windows.

Originally Posted by jlinkels I fiercely hate Microsoft for their crappy and overly complicated OS

So what do you use now instead of Debian?