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Old 07-13-2021, 12:57 PM   #1
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Battling Big Tech


Doesn't this sort of thing gladden your heart?
https://www.bbc.com/news/technology-57811953

A 500 Million fine, and 900,000 per day for every day they don't toe the line
 
Old 07-13-2021, 01:28 PM   #2
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You forgot the [sarcasm] tags.

France is going on about forcing the "link tax", which is a very unfortunate part of the EU Directive on Copyright in the Digital Single Market, which was passed a couple of years ago with little discussion. Underneath the surface, the effective goal is to shut down the Free and open WWW by removing the ability to hyperlink.

The "link tax" was covered in Article 13, which had its content moved to Article 17 just before the debate to help ensure a lack of discussion and analysis before the uninformed vote could take place. The interpretation seems to be that Google needs to have a contract and proof of payment for said contract for each and every hyperlink they point to. Before M$ and its proxies goad you into laughing too hard, realize that those rules apply also to you and any business or other activities you might have online. The other EU countries have a few more weeks or months before they, too, must comply with the treaty and enforce similar attacks against the WWW.

The WWW is baked into everything these days. It's not possible to assess a net value but to say that this plan to prevent hyperlinking knee-caps EU businesses is by far an understatement.
 
Old 07-13-2021, 02:15 PM   #3
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Sarcasm tags???

BTW, thanks for the explanation. You gather I'm not into big tech at all.There's supposed to be our Data Commission going after Facebook, and it's sad. I wrote a complaint and it eventually with ifs, buts, without prejudice etc. They spent somuych time saying nothing that far from grasping nettles, they seem either a) on Facebook's payroll or b) afraid to do anything in case they upset somebody. They would never have had the bottle to do what France just did.
 
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There will be less advertisement. And I am happy with this.
 
Old 07-13-2021, 02:45 PM   #5
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And I am happy with this.
I am not convinced of that. Please re-read EU Directive on Copyright in the Digital Single Market from 2019, in the language of your choice, paying attention to Article 17 (formerly known as Article 13) and Article 11 in regards to the "link tax" and "upload filters". There were very few analyses until too late and even less coverage in the mainstream media prior to the votes. The latter was due to conflict of interest.

Edit: see also https://www.tomshardware.com/news/eu...tax,37286.html

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Old 07-13-2021, 03:00 PM   #6
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Reading this is waste of time. It is not was is written but how interpreted. I am sure UE and big tech will reach an agreement. I don't quite well understand what do you mean by "free internet"?
 
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Reading this is waste of time. It is not was is written but how interpreted. I am sure UE and big tech will reach an agreement. I don't quite well understand what do you mean by "free internet"?
Free as in Freedom. It is a defining characteristic of the Internet in general, and the WWW specifically, where anyone has the Freedom to add their system into the network. That freedom is what caused the exponential growth of both over the decades, and that freedom is what has been at stake and what will be reduced or eliminated now that the 24 month grace period is ending. It really looks like an attempt to mandate a replacement of The Internet with an idea based on the failed proprietary, no-growth networks which preceded The Internet.

Yes, there would have been a better return on investment on reading the drafts back when more could be done. Reading the EU Directive on Copyright in the Digital Single Market law at this late date is nowhere near as useful as reading the drafts would have been back when the law could have been stopped or sections edited or removed. However, now that it is in place, ignorance of the law will not protect anyone. Furthermore, the details of the law are in and of themselves pernicious and the individual member states have only a small amount of wiggle room in how they may interpret and implement the law.

Speaking of laws, on the other side of the pond, the proposals going on in the US to deal with "Big Tech" leave out mention of M$ because, according to some sources, M$ own lobbyists have been involved in the early drafts and have lobbied from before day one to ensure that M$ remains left off the list. Despite the omission by name from the draft US legislation, M$ remains the worst of the lot.

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Old 07-14-2021, 04:46 AM   #8
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Thanks for explanations.
 
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Slightly off topic, and indeed betraying my bias, this story also gladdened my heart.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-china-57889981

And, when they think about what to do, They will have to reeducate people to a secure OS. Where is all this going to end? Mind you, it's fun while it's going on - until my own bank is taken down.
 
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This is a re-run of the old tactic from 20 years ago where M$ blamed "linux people" for security holes, except now China and others are named instead.

I understand your interpretation of the events and acknowledge that M$ Exchange is among the shoddiest suites ever shipped, but re-read the article. The BBC is framing the problem not as the one we know, where the M$ Exchange product line has been known to be both insecure and unreliable since its inception, but as a problem started by external parties. Thus they're shifting the blame away from M$ and its endless parade of shoddy products. At the same time there are also politicians that need to find an excuse to blame China or Russia or other interests, and M$ is riding on that. The end-game there is that M$ will be absolved of wrongdoing, again.
 
  


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