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appreciation for microsoft
I think I've been *** around a lot with microsoft, calling them names.
I realize that my cd rack has mostly microsoft things Flight Simulator Simcity countless reference guides Encarta, Roller coaster tycoon, Quincy... Those things are easilly replace in linux, yet, its not the same. Who started all those things? Mostly programmers KEYWORD: Programmers no pointing microsoft, pointing the bug swappers and hairless brave guys who pull out their hair figureing out what the heck, I was missing a ";" Microsoft has two meaning for me now 1. Either the compagny who made the game 2. Or the compagny who has Bill Gates as a president Say that we talk only about the technological advance of DirectX9.0 and FlightSimulator and "all that", the games which you played with for the last 10 years in my case. Than poof! You forget about them cause that sassy virus screwed up your computer? Heres what I did When I want to play a game, I unpluged my internet, and play, and SMILE! because it's programmers who did it, I feel good!!! Do you in any way have a appreciation for Microsoft OR their programmers?? |
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ok im fairly new to linux but im missing something if
"Flight Simulator Simcity countless reference guides Encarta, Roller coaster tycoon, Quincy... Those things are easilly replace in linux, yet, its not the same." seriously there is rollercoaster tycoon or simcity for linux? im not being sarcastic, its just i didnt think you could find them. i know there is a civilization thats on the new fc2 release which is fun to mess with. see i like microsoft for their game unit, but not their pc games. the xbox. i love it, it think it was a great idea, no freaking memory chips to store games. its like the old days of snes when we had cartridges and could save games instantly. i love the harddrive to store games, and to rip cds (even burnt cds). I was playing conflic desert storm yesterday with a heavy metal playlist that was just killer, or in project gotham racing 2 you can change radio stations that play diffrent playlist from the drive. and xbox live, before live you had to pay per game, you needed expansion cables to go online, but live is awesome. not that socom or some other ps2 online games arnt good, the fact thats its centralized is the key for me. like when battlenet combined all blizzard games, its just so smart. thats what i like about microsoft. |
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http://www.lokigames.com/products/rt2/ SimCity: http://www.lokigames.com/products/sc3k/ |
haha, wow didnt think that stuff was ported over to linux, learn something each day, thanks
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There're so, so many good things from Microsoft that I love:
- I give Visual Studio thumbs up. It's a great, complete platform development. - I also love their integration: If you have Visual Basic, you can use it without a hassle with Access and create nice databases/gui interfaces. Same goes to everything else... - DirectX rocks! Sorry, but none of the others API around for games matches DirectX. I know, OpenGL is nice, but it's far from being complete for games. As example, it does not handle sounds. Then you need to use a second API (say, SDL) to handle things OpenGL does not. Too much time, too much dependencies to solve. It's just not worthy the time... - Xbox: The best console ever built. In hardware, it outperforms any other platform for an affordable price. The games are still trying to catch up (in quantity, not quality), but the latest E3 showed amazing titles following up. - Games: Flight Simulator is great, not much to say about that. Dungeon Siege is amazing and it's the one I play the most. The only thing that I don't think is great from Microsoft, as you've guessed, is Windows itself. It's not a bad OS, but it's not good either... |
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My opinion... LInux is the best thing to happen to Microsoft
Without competition company's get lazy, greedy, or both. MS has many good products but there should always be a choice to keep them honest. Having said that I can't wait till all my favorite programs are ported to Linux! |
Microsoft allowed me for the most part to avoid the hell which is MacOS 8 & 9 (dunno anything about prior releases), but that's about it. Just about every program I regularly used before Linux was non-MS stuff. Windows and DirectX are about the only exceptions I can think of at the moment.
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No appreciation for MS anymore, What pisses me off more than anything is companys like Gamespy who wont port their application to Linux (at least not that i've found, feel free to correct me if i'm wrong). Do they not care about the other thousands of gamers who could be watching their ridiculously? long adds. And yes i could use wine but they why run linux at all why not just use Windows. And at the present time I still have XP installed just so i can meet up with my clan on gamespy and seemeplayme. Oh well maybe one day they'll wise up til then guess i'm stuck using linux/windows
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let's put this into perspective.
I appreciate what microsoft has done for modern computing, in that the company has made computing accessable to everyone. Microsoft invigorated the x86 platform, essentially creating its success. As an example, what are you running linux on? What other company made that as enticing a platform as Microsoft? They created marketshare for personal computers. They've done a lot for technology, whether as a result of their innovations, or simply as a result of their business plan. I appreciate Microsoft for bringing computing to the human level. I do not appreciate Microsoft's efforts to exorcise all competitors from the level playing field. I'll leave it at that. --Shade |
No one yet vote on "better off with linux games/kernel"
What is with that? So linux ppl DO have an appreciation! I wonder, when you switched to linux/ dual boot. Did you start hating microsoft, if so, when did you stop!? Exemple, my exemple switched to linux last october Started hating them right of way Stoped last week Oct, Nov, Dec, Jan, Feb, Mar, Apr, May. Eight months... That a lot of time for thoughts! How about you? >>>>For does who don't appreciate microsoft<<<<<< Don't blame ya! I had that "I hate microsoft fever for six months" But I became nostalgic looking at my games and start to realize what I just said previously. Did most ppl read my starting post? Forget about microsoft! Let's give a hand to tHEIR PROGRAMMERS!! |
somewhat of an appreciation....love the games Ages of Empires, Ages of Mythology etc. Love Word and Excel. But Windows itself is the devil sometimes however they have kept me employed (troubleshooting PC's etc) so thats not a bad thing at all. And as much as we complain if it weren't for them alot of us would not even own PC's and I certainly wouldnt have met some very wonderful people over the past 8 or 9 years since I've been using the internet.
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No need for a poll to prouve that... At least for me, I switched for that reason. You'll see my stories in "success stories" anytime soon. :D |
I don't like or hate Microsoft, even though some of their business practices are a bit shady. When there's competition, they tend to turn out great products. When they're a monopoly in a field, then they let their products lag. They aren't different from any other company. My goal is not for everyone to stop using "evil" Microsoft products, only for there to be viable competition in every industry they are selling in.
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Yes, Microsoft and Gates should be appreciated for progress in personal computing.
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I dont think so, if you look at the timeline, Apple got there first, Apple was the first real inovator, the first to use a GUI, the first use a Mouse, first to use a color screen, the first PDA, Voice recognition software, first hand writing recognition software, where was MS? ripping Apple off! 3.1 and Windows 95 were obvious rip off's of the mac os, if Apple wasnt hurting so bad at the time they could have followed through with the lawsuit and there would be no windows. if any credit is due to anyone for the current state of computers its Apple, I mean look at MacOS X beautiful, and the designs of their computers, awsome, they took computing and turned it into an art.
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i didnt say they created i said used, bill and his boys had a shot at the gui and mouse, but as i recall bill asked "who would use something called a mouse?"
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I love Microsoft until now, even if I am using 3 linux boxes at the office.
One big contribution of Microsoft is teaching the old-dogs with new-tricks. It made computing easier specially to the old folks! And until now they still do. A good example is the Word Processor WORDSTAR and WORDPERFECT. Microsoft has seen the potential and importance of such program and thus they made MS-Office. Which I find very convinient and easy to use. But what I don't really like is the licensing, annual reg's and other cost. About Viruses: Actually, MS can eliminate or minimize Virus infection on their system. Though they choose not to. But think of this. If Automobiles can run on water, what will happen to Oil Producing Countries. About GAMES: Two thumbs up for MS Games. Lastly. In our present situation. I think Linux will not survive without MS. (eg. AutoCAD software can't run on Linux). Is there a software in Linux that can produce custom-made-applications like Visual Basic and Crystal Reports?!? |
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yea i bought the book apple confidential 2.0 and it details the experience apple whent through to become the company they are today, the worst part is that xerox didnt patent any of it was just giving it way not knowing what to do with it, well maybe its the best cuz if they would have patent it maybe we wouldnt be where we are now, ahh, the joys of open source
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I just hate M$ myself. Don't get me started. :tisk:
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It's Sad to say but M$ still rules! I wonder..... Why is it that M$-APPS have linux emulators, but Linux APPS don't have M$ Emulators?!?
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They would crash, just like windoze.
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http://www.cygwin.com/ http://line.sourceforge.net/ http://librenix.com/?inode=634 About Apple... I really am happy that MS dominates the market. If it was Apple dominating, we'd be paying 5.000 bucks for a crappy (price for their first box) and nearly non-upgradable machine... |
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M$ is on the bottom of the stack, right next to stepping in dog poop. :tisk: Later :D :D :D :D |
lol :) I agree. If MS is scaring and took our freedom of choice for an OS, Apple did not only that, but also took our choice of hardware... which one scares you the most? ;)
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No on can deny that Micrsoft are good at there job, writing software, i think that what most people disagree with is the way that they market all there goods.
As a company they are all shrewd bullies, that push to much, which is a shame because like i said they are good at what they do most of the time, but, they have become greedy and lazy (like what was said already) and there technologies are more about seeing how much money they can make, and how many people they can sue (ha! almost like sco!) over the fact that the technology is ground breaking or whatever. As far as the whole XboX thing is concerned, well its a fantastic console, but because its nothing more than a closed up sideways pc, it doesnt have the appeal or diversity of a normal computer or one of the more popular consoles such as the Playstations. |
All those holes and they write good stuff? I doubt that. They should fix what they have before they start writing more programs, with more holes I might add.
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First day on a xbox at the mall:
Demo! Choose a game to start, down,down,'a'. Loading.... comeone, load! you @#% a ..Jam[][][][] aaaaaaaaaaaaabbbxxxyxyxyx<><>^^^\/\/\/ like windows this is not a joke, this is something I tested, I though xbox was superior... |
It still windoze lol. What do you expect?
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lol sadly enough, my roomate has an xbox and we've seen the blue screen of death with its fatal error on the console!
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ROFLMAO. God this hurts. What is windoze really good far? Crashing. They should gaurantee at least one good crash a day and get it over with. It does it any way so may as well add the "feature".
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lol add a short cut keys that way after it happens you can get on with your day, I remeber somone asking me if i could recomend any short cut keys for windows, i said, the only ones u need is alt-ctrl-delete.
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To all of you idiots who thank Microsoft for bringing easy to use computing to the masses I say one thing:
YOU ARE WRONG! In 1984, Apple introduced the Macintosh. It truly revolutionized ease of use computing in two important ways: 1. It paved the way, putting in practice a GUI OS with easy to use point-and-click and drag-and-drop interface. and 2. Everyone else cloned the Mac's ideas. Except for Microsoft. It's the latter point which people forget. By 1985--just one year after the Mac's introduction--two major Mac rip-offs were introduced (the Atari ST and the Amiga). They even had some innovations like color graphics, pre-emptive multitasking, multiple workspaces, hardware graphics acceleration, and plug-and-play hardware. These three enjoyed a healthy competition of the GUI systems for many years. If MSDOS weren't so dominant in the market, it's likely that all home computers would have gone to multi-tasking GUIs with high resolution color graphics far sooner! So...what do we have Microsoft to thank for? Windows 95? Get some historical perspective--Windows 95 came to the multitasking GUI party a DECADE late. |
the negative aspects of their coercive and illegal business practices outweigh the positive aspects of their product. and their collusion with media companies (and other organizations) regarding DRM and TCPA is inexcusable.
http://www.cl.cam.ac.uk/~rja14/tcpa-faq.html |
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I hope saying that doesn't violate board rules (talking about modifying) |
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My Machine hasnt crashed in over a year. Where are some of you getting this info? |
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That is not the only one I have seen do that. I used to work on computers. 90% of the problems were fixed by re-installing the OS. I'm just glad hardware isn't as bad as the OS. We would be in bad shape. XP is better, but it is not as stable as Linux or a Mac. Later :D :D :D :D |
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most true indeed but I was just referring to a comment alot of people make saying their machine crashes alot running Windows and I think it varies from individual to individual. Like I said I've run mine for over a year with no crashes (800mhz only 256 mb ) running Photoshop, a few music applications like Soundforge, and other heavy programs and while it has slowed down and even freezes occasionally its more due to the lack of ram in my computer and the number of processes running. peace |
My brother has XP too. He has not had a crash either. I did make some changes when he first started using it though. I cut off some things and prevented him from accessing some things. He is older than I am but he has no clue when it comes to computer stuff.
He also only turns on the thing, checks e-mail, play a game of solitare or somethng, then cuts it back off. If he left it running all the time, it would likely crash then. Windoze just can not sustain itself for long periods of time. It has memory holes, resource problems and then if there is a problem with the app, it can take the OS with it. Not always but a good portion of the time. I also keep Norton up to date for him. He would be dead without that. Linux can run for years if you want it too. I have noticed that when I first boot mine, it is actually slower than when it has been up for a while. It uses cache a lot and I have 1GB of memory for it to cache to. It helps make things load faster. I rarely reboot. I shutdown when there is a bad storm, I need to change something in the BIOS, or need to change hardware stuff. That is about all that gets me to shutdown. Windoze seems to require it from time to time and gets slower if you don't. I like what having a standard OS, like M$, has done for computers and the average user. I do think that if it were no M$ that something else would have came along anyway, like Apple. They may have even made Linux better faster because they would have 'concentrated' more on the average user and more would have been participating in the development. I also don't like M$ business practices. If M$ would play fair, windoze would likley be even better than it is. It really does need a complete overhaul from bottom up. Not sure they can do that though. My $.02 worth. Later :D :D :D :D |
Were do you take your information from? Hey, I agree when he above talks about experience.
This is my box 256 MB RAM is not cheap, no mem problem here 20GB is way up, no HDD problem here swap? Turned it off because, who needs it with 256 MB of RAM? I never get my system filled at 75%!! The problem? Sasser virus. (I think It's was a compound of virus', in two weeks, I had to reformat three times. I format one day, two days after, I lose it) The fourth time was the day i put in linux void outside_comment{ I hate viruses. One poll I made was "Who do you think make viruses?" crazy programmer 50% anti virus company 50% } The problem above made me lost some work, I cannot cope with viruses at the same time I figure out maths. The only thing I had to learn with linux,(or rather, the first most important thing) was C:\Documents and Settings\mimithebrain\My Documents is the same as /home/mimithebrain Let's hope linux-ppl have more sense in themselves and don't make viruses, the day they do, I switch back, or make the MTB kernel. |
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