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mimithebrain 06-14-2004 02:19 PM

appreciation for microsoft
 
I think I've been *** around a lot with microsoft, calling them names.
I realize that my cd rack has mostly microsoft things
Flight Simulator
Simcity
countless reference guides
Encarta, Roller coaster tycoon, Quincy...
Those things are easilly replace in linux, yet, its not the same.
Who started all those things? Mostly programmers
KEYWORD: Programmers
no pointing microsoft, pointing the bug swappers and hairless brave guys who pull out their hair figureing out what the heck, I was missing a ";"

Microsoft has two meaning for me now
1. Either the compagny who made the game
2. Or the compagny who has Bill Gates as a president

Say that we talk only about the technological advance of DirectX9.0 and FlightSimulator and "all that", the games which you played with for the last 10 years in my case. Than poof! You forget about them cause that sassy virus screwed up your computer?

Heres what I did

When I want to play a game, I unpluged my internet, and play, and SMILE! because it's programmers who did it, I feel good!!!

Do you in any way have a appreciation for Microsoft OR their programmers??

trey85stang 06-14-2004 02:36 PM

I give Exchange Server... 2 thumbs up!

thejokker 06-14-2004 02:41 PM

ok im fairly new to linux but im missing something if
"Flight Simulator
Simcity
countless reference guides
Encarta, Roller coaster tycoon, Quincy...
Those things are easilly replace in linux, yet, its not the same."
seriously there is rollercoaster tycoon or simcity for linux?
im not being sarcastic, its just i didnt think you could find them.
i know there is a civilization thats on the new fc2 release which is fun to mess with.

see i like microsoft for their game unit, but not their pc games. the xbox. i love it, it think it was a great idea, no freaking memory chips to store games. its like the old days of snes when we had cartridges and could save games instantly. i love the harddrive to store games, and to rip cds (even burnt cds). I was playing conflic desert storm yesterday with a heavy metal playlist that was just killer, or in project gotham racing 2 you can change radio stations that play diffrent playlist from the drive. and xbox live, before live you had to pay per game, you needed expansion cables to go online, but live is awesome. not that socom or some other ps2 online games arnt good, the fact thats its centralized is the key for me. like when battlenet combined all blizzard games, its just so smart. thats what i like about microsoft.

david_ross 06-14-2004 02:55 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by thejokker
seriously there is rollercoaster tycoon or simcity for linux?
im not being sarcastic, its just i didnt think you could find them.

Tycoon:
http://www.lokigames.com/products/rt2/

SimCity:
http://www.lokigames.com/products/sc3k/

thejokker 06-14-2004 03:02 PM

haha, wow didnt think that stuff was ported over to linux, learn something each day, thanks

Mega Man X 06-14-2004 04:26 PM

There're so, so many good things from Microsoft that I love:

- I give Visual Studio thumbs up. It's a great, complete platform development.

- I also love their integration: If you have Visual Basic, you can use it without a hassle with Access and create nice databases/gui interfaces. Same goes to everything else...

- DirectX rocks! Sorry, but none of the others API around for games matches DirectX. I know, OpenGL is nice, but it's far from being complete for games. As example, it does not handle sounds. Then you need to use a second API (say, SDL) to handle things OpenGL does not. Too much time, too much dependencies to solve. It's just not worthy the time...

- Xbox: The best console ever built. In hardware, it outperforms any other platform for an affordable price. The games are still trying to catch up (in quantity, not quality), but the latest E3 showed amazing titles following up.

- Games: Flight Simulator is great, not much to say about that. Dungeon Siege is amazing and it's the one I play the most.

The only thing that I don't think is great from Microsoft, as you've guessed, is Windows itself. It's not a bad OS, but it's not good either...

askjeffro 06-14-2004 04:36 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Megaman X


- Xbox: The best console ever built. In hardware, it outperforms any other platform for an affordable price. The games are still trying to catch up (in quantity, not quality), but the latest E3 showed amazing titles following up.

I agree with your other stuff, but not this. :) Xbox lacks serious quality apps that the PS2 gets, and that Nintendo provides for the Gamecube. The Xbox does have its highlights, but not enough to keep me engadged long. My Xbox has had to be replaced twice despite being played the least. Thumbs down from me.

spoody_goon 06-14-2004 04:54 PM

My opinion... LInux is the best thing to happen to Microsoft
Without competition company's get lazy, greedy, or both. MS has many good products but there should always be a choice to keep them honest.
Having said that I can't wait till all my favorite programs are ported to Linux!

mikshaw 06-14-2004 07:43 PM

Microsoft allowed me for the most part to avoid the hell which is MacOS 8 & 9 (dunno anything about prior releases), but that's about it. Just about every program I regularly used before Linux was non-MS stuff. Windows and DirectX are about the only exceptions I can think of at the moment.

newbielike 06-14-2004 09:32 PM

No appreciation for MS anymore, What pisses me off more than anything is companys like Gamespy who wont port their application to Linux (at least not that i've found, feel free to correct me if i'm wrong). Do they not care about the other thousands of gamers who could be watching their ridiculously? long adds. And yes i could use wine but they why run linux at all why not just use Windows. And at the present time I still have XP installed just so i can meet up with my clan on gamespy and seemeplayme. Oh well maybe one day they'll wise up til then guess i'm stuck using linux/windows

Shade 06-14-2004 11:38 PM

let's put this into perspective.

I appreciate what microsoft has done for modern computing, in that the company has made computing accessable to everyone. Microsoft invigorated the x86 platform, essentially creating its success. As an example, what are you running linux on? What other company made that as enticing a platform as Microsoft?

They created marketshare for personal computers. They've done a lot for technology, whether as a result of their innovations, or simply as a result of their business plan.

I appreciate Microsoft for bringing computing to the human level.

I do not appreciate Microsoft's efforts to exorcise all competitors from the level playing field.

I'll leave it at that.

--Shade

mimithebrain 06-15-2004 11:20 AM

No one yet vote on "better off with linux games/kernel"
What is with that?

So linux ppl DO have an appreciation! I wonder, when you switched to linux/ dual boot. Did you start hating microsoft, if so, when did you stop!?

Exemple, my exemple
switched to linux last october
Started hating them right of way
Stoped last week
Oct, Nov, Dec, Jan, Feb, Mar, Apr, May.
Eight months...
That a lot of time for thoughts! How about you?

>>>>For does who don't appreciate microsoft<<<<<<
Don't blame ya!
I had that "I hate microsoft fever for six months"
But I became nostalgic looking at my games and start to realize what I just said previously.
Did most ppl read my starting post? Forget about microsoft! Let's give a hand to tHEIR PROGRAMMERS!!

jaz 06-15-2004 11:25 AM

somewhat of an appreciation....love the games Ages of Empires, Ages of Mythology etc. Love Word and Excel. But Windows itself is the devil sometimes however they have kept me employed (troubleshooting PC's etc) so thats not a bad thing at all. And as much as we complain if it weren't for them alot of us would not even own PC's and I certainly wouldnt have met some very wonderful people over the past 8 or 9 years since I've been using the internet.

mimithebrain 06-15-2004 12:24 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by jaz
] But Windows itself is the devil sometimes however they have kept me employed (troubleshooting PC's etc) so thats not a bad thing at all.
Right, If the world was free, then Programmers engineers would be out of job, and so Technician like you.

Quote:

But Windows itself is the devil
:eek:

No need for a poll to prouve that... At least for me, I switched for that reason.
You'll see my stories in "success stories" anytime soon.
:D

vincebs 06-22-2004 09:31 PM

I don't like or hate Microsoft, even though some of their business practices are a bit shady. When there's competition, they tend to turn out great products. When they're a monopoly in a field, then they let their products lag. They aren't different from any other company. My goal is not for everyone to stop using "evil" Microsoft products, only for there to be viable competition in every industry they are selling in.


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