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Old 10-11-2017, 10:06 AM   #1066
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Can You Live / Game On An Intel Pentium 4 In 2017?
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Old 10-11-2017, 10:29 AM   #1067
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The WEB does have other uses gaming you know!!!
 
Old 10-11-2017, 10:39 AM   #1068
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I am in a bit of state of shock today, a contact of mine who even has a dedicated dos PC for doing assembly level programming has just moved from P4 to C2D as the P4 got to be too slow for the web. Now this contact really knows and loves old PCs, hence, it is a very significant mile stone.
I don't feel anything special about Pentium 4. Pentium III and Pentium M were great, but during the Pentium 4 era AMD had better and cheaper offerings. The success of AMD at the time forced Intel to make CPUs which were compatible with AMD! Regardless of that humiliation, the Core 2 processors outdid AMD at their own game and they're still quite good.

Why cling on to Pentium 4? It doesn't have the same retro feel as a Slot-1 CPU, and a Core 2 Duo is vastly better while also being pretty darn cheap. I just picked up a Core 2 Quad desktop for about $35 shipped. It's over ten times faster than my fastest P4 ever was (and 7 times faster than the AMD Sempron 3100+ systems which I still use, from the P4 era).
 
Old 10-11-2017, 11:55 AM   #1069
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Why cling on to Pentium 4?
It is nostalgia as it was during the peak of my life as well as in terms of my IT use. Hence, the attraction to P4 still.
 
Old 10-11-2017, 12:46 PM   #1070
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It is not just nostalgia. it is as much to do with not buying a new machine and throw the old away when it still does what you want to do perfectly well.
If you're not into gaming, there is very little need for a super fast expensive new machine.
I do have a faster, more modern, more portable machine, but the screen and sound quality are no where near that of my 15in Dell P4 based luggable.
 
Old 10-11-2017, 08:40 PM   #1071
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The WEB does have other uses gaming you know!!!
P0rn!
 
Old 10-12-2017, 04:29 AM   #1072
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Can You Live / Game On An Intel Pentium 4 In 2017?
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Well, since 90% of the games I play are DOS or Win3 games, I would find a P4 to be overkill for many of them when running in native modes. I often run on higher processors and game in DOSBOX or a virtual machine, but with a 486 or early Pentium processor I would most likely run native using FREEDOS.

Coem to that, FREEDOS comes with a ton of games and I have not explored all of them. Perhaps I should!
 
Old 10-12-2017, 07:33 AM   #1073
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Well, since 90% of the games I play are DOS or Win3 games, I would find a P4 to be overkill for many of them when running in native modes. I often run on higher processors and game in DOSBOX or a virtual machine, but with a 486 or early Pentium processor I would most likely run native using FREEDOS.

Coem to that, FREEDOS comes with a ton of games and I have not explored all of them. Perhaps I should!
Perhaps the earlier versions of FREESDos came with games, the more recent version didn't have games last time I checked.
 
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It is not just nostalgia. it is as much to do with not buying a new machine and throw the old away when it still does what you want to do perfectly well.
If you're not into gaming, there is very little need for a super fast expensive new machine.
I do have a faster, more modern, more portable machine, but the screen and sound quality are no where near that of my 15in Dell P4 based luggable.
Presently using a browser/OS from 2012 on this older PC. If few more sites worked for me with this P4 then I will be ok with it. Perhaps I need a more recent OS with update browser, dragging my feet on this.
 
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Yes, update, I can still use my old Latitude C400 with the most recent Slackware and palemoon or chromium. No need to be on an old OS.
 
Old 10-18-2017, 06:52 AM   #1076
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Yes, update, I can still use my old Latitude C400 with the most recent Slackware and palemoon or chromium. No need to be on an old OS.
Very good point, I can't use an older PC with older OS and then complain, it is nostalgia with bad results, this I admit. However, the outcome is also expected.

Since I added tomato paste over CPU, yesterday I had my first crash, had PC on for over 24 hours and did a lot of things too fast, then XWindows crashed. CPU usage without youtube varies at a peak of about 24% when typing lots, touches a low of 3% but is usually around 7%. Will observe for this more and see.
 
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Since I added tomato paste over CPU, yesterday I had my first crash
Well if you will use cooking ingredients rather than the proper stuff, what do you expect??
 
Old 10-18-2017, 08:16 AM   #1078
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Well if you will use cooking ingredients rather than the proper stuff, what do you expect??
Thank you for your comment. It is after 10 days since I used the tomato paste, that too for intense PC after running it nonstop for over a day. So it is not too bad, but will monitor more and see.
 
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i found a fully functional 64bit athlon minitower with 160GB hard drive on the skip.
it had only 1GB RAM, but i still have 8GB from my last motherboard (incompatible with my current mobo), plus an oldish nvidia card and all peripherals... the final outcome is pretty decent
 
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i found a fully functional 64bit athlon minitower with 160GB hard drive on the skip.
it had only 1GB RAM, but i still have 8GB from my last motherboard (incompatible with my current mobo), plus an oldish nvidia card and all peripherals... the final outcome is pretty decent
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