i really like how most linux distros come with multiple desktop environments so that if your system chugs on kde, you can use fluxbox, etc. but windows only comes with one option, explorer, and it's got those damn ms logos on every open surface i searched google for an alternative windows desktop(not a file manager though, i might use a new file manager in conjunction with a new desktop) and all i found was talisman and it looks like it would take up more resources than explorer and it costs money, i guess all that great open source linux software has spoiled me . i'm looking for an alternative windows desktop that: doesnt take up a lot of resources, doesnt fill my screen with stupid logos, and maybe has some cool features like multiple workspaces

Maybe a better place to ask would be a windows forum? I know they are out there I have seen them. Maybe a more thorough google search would help. http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&l...ws&btnG=Search

I saw fluxbox for windows in this list.

well, if i posted this in a windows forum, id expect to be flamed and probably not get a good answer

i dont see fluxbox for windows in the list from that search. also, doesnt a shell refere more to a command line than a desktop environment like fluxbox?

I've used Blackbox for Windows a long time ago:

http://www.bb4win.org/news.php

I'm not sure if it would use less resources then Windows does though. Most likely, it will run on the top of Explorer and I'm basing this in... well... absolutely nothing, so I could be wrong.

If you just have to run Windows in older machines, get Win98 SE or the latest edition of Win95 with USB support (if you need that).

Also, just for the record, it's possible to have multiples desktops in Windows. Nvidia drivers offers that option if you use one of its cards/drivers and MS also has some tweaks for XP which allows that (search their site).

Anyway, same things for Linux applies for Windows... disable unnecessary services and things will improve a lot.

I fail to see those "Stupid Logos" that you are referring too. Other then the MS symbol on the start button...

Regards!

i would want a desktop environment to replace explorer, not run on top of it, so that would be a problem... maybe i'll just look into the multiple workspace tweaking, killing processes, and maybe resource hacking explorer to get rid of those dumb logos(theyre in the corner of every screen and the start button), i'll get some better boot screens too

i know a way to get rid of explorer altogether and have a commandline come up at boot. ill ahve to look it up, but is that what you want?

you get a background and a window with a terminal inside. you can open up other windows and they will have windecos. you just have to do it through a commandline without the use of the start menu or explorer. it might not have many cool features, but it sure is fast(fast as you can get anyway...) and if you want to use explorer features, oyu can just type in explorer.exe and it opens right up.

Edit: i also know a way to get rid of the explorer window icons, but again, ill have to look it up. my windozze skillzz are starting to dull lately.

from the query I gave abve. The second one I think. http://www.stardock.com/stardock/art...r2002.html#who

A shell in windows is the desktop environment. It isn't the same as linux. It isn't hard to set up. You have to change the shell environment variable in one of the configuration files. I had staroffice when it was a desktop set as my shell in windows at one time.

litestep sound interesting

*boots into windows*

And, within that shell, you had multiple Desktops. If you right-clicked the suite's Desktop Icon, you would see the list.
StarOffice5.2 starts out with one Desktop by default, but then you add as many as you like by right-clicking any folder in StarOffice Explorer and checking 'Desktop.' The folder becomes a Desktop and adds itself to the Desktop context menu. Desktops can be customized with color and images.

Seconding litestep.

Litestep is good and can replace Explorer. It works better on 98SE than on NT. ScreenIt is a good, small desktop switcher, Google it, It works better on SE than NT as well. Hmmm... I think I see a pattern here.