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Old 11-29-2017, 09:42 AM   #61
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I noticed recently that Paul has feet that bend outwards, this is called splayed feet in pigeons a disorder that needs to be corrected at Birth, however since he was wild this was left as such. Now as he ages, the poor feet posture contributes to his stress and fatigue when he walks around more in search of food and stands. This adds to all his other issues, making him very inefficient outdoors and an easy target.

The one main thing I need to buy for Pauly will be a small pet carrier for around 35 bucks including tax, transportation, with this one, I can take him out on walks, so he isn't totally cut off from nature. Hope to get this in the future.
 
Old 11-30-2017, 05:29 PM   #62
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I bought the pet carry cage today. Paul is a bit nervous to be insides, so played keeping him
inside and taking him outsides briefly two times today. Will try this some more in future.
I was gone for a while, on return I saw that he had spilled the food I had placed for him
in meal plate all over the ground. Also, today he didn't eat much, not sure why.

Later towards the evening today, he allowed me to stroke his feet, then his neck,
wings, body and head as he perched safely on bed room door at a height. Glad to
see that he is getting more comfortable with me with time.
Few of my contacts told me that rather than me adopting him, it appears that he has adopted me.
 
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I don't think he'll ever take to the carrier. pigeons are easily accustomed to human company (after all, their ancestors were domestic) but being in a cage is pretty alien. Getting a cat in one can sometimes be a real fight!

As far as feet go, I often see pigeons with a deformed foot: they hobble, but they're otherwise plump and healthy-looking.
 
Old 12-01-2017, 12:59 PM   #64
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I don't think he'll ever take to the carrier. pigeons are easily accustomed to human company (after all, their ancestors were domestic) but being in a cage is pretty alien. Getting a cat in one can sometimes be a real fight!

As far as feet go, I often see pigeons with a deformed foot: they hobble, but they're otherwise plump and healthy-looking.
If the carrier is made into a game with treat rewards, with time he might take to it.

You are very correct about the deformed foot but these are younger pigeons. As old age sets in, there are several related issues, these all together are greatly limiting my pigeon. He rests thru most of the day, only flies around very little.
In fact, now I am wondering even if he is in the last phase of his life and if this is the case I will make him as comfortable as possible.

I will get him orange juice or some other fruit juice sometime in the future and see if he likes it.

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Old 12-03-2017, 11:47 AM   #65
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Today morning itself, Paul finger cuddled with me for about an hour,
this is quite a positive development, however he is still not comfortable
enough to perch on my shoulder. He perched on my fingers of his
own accord briefly tho and this was nice.

I have to make Paul's meals interesting with chia seeds, flax seeds, excess dry
oat meal flakes along with pigeon mix. Else he doesn't eat much. Yesterday
he didn't eat just pigeon seeds mix well. Today I gave him special home
made variety mix, this he greatly enjoyed and ate a lot.

Had a nice chat with a gentleman who works in wildlife rescue. He also
agreed that Paul is an old pigeon, now I feel approx. he has 1 to 4 years
of life ahead of him, the best peak phase of his life is behind him. So
will allow him to live in peace.

On a different note the feet of wild pigeons get caught up with human hair, strands of fiber, threads from clothes of folks etc., this leads to their toes being amputated, there is no real solution to this.
 
Old 12-05-2017, 12:58 PM   #66
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Paul is starting to like and eat soaked lentil seeds with some sprouts also, this is excellent. I have learned a lot about sprouting from this site:
http://sprouting.com/
Will sprout more in 2018 Spring.
Appears he almost wants to fly around a bit sometimes and expects me to chase him, helps him feel special it seems. Good exercise at least.

Paul Coos every 2 hours or so thru the night mildly. I call out to him and he
stops:
http://www.pigeons.biz/forums/f24/my...ght-64794.html
Now I have also learned to coo roughly like a pigeon.

Today, he wanted me to slow feed him for 30 mts. with lots of cuddles in between before eating his full plate finally.

One contact shared something vital today, she said stop feeding your pets and they will go to your neighbor who feeds them. This is so true, but I will try to do my best for those I can help. Every day I am learning something new with Pauly, so this is good and he is also getting closer to me daily. Didn't expect to learn so much via him.
 
Old 12-09-2017, 08:14 AM   #67
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Interesting list related to pigeons:
http://listverse.com/2015/12/19/10-r...ted-bird-ever/

I agree with this list, until I got Pauly I didn't care to learn much about pigeons as they are all over. Cared more to know about parrots.

Few other animal related interesting links for fun:
http://listverse.com/2017/12/09/10-c...certain-death/
http://listverse.com/2016/03/10/10-i...th-each-other/
 
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Two more interesting pages
http://www.pigeoncontrolresourcecent...t-pigeons.html
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/news...old-child.html

Incidentally the man from BTO who dismissed the work of the Japanese scientists turns out to be a press officer with no qualifications listed!
 
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Two more interesting pages
http://www.pigeoncontrolresourcecent...t-pigeons.html
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/news...old-child.html

Incidentally the man from BTO who dismissed the work of the Japanese scientists turns out to be a press officer with no qualifications listed!
That first link is quite a read. Thanks for sharing, much appreciated.

Now I will assess how Paul feels every 3 months or so, specially in spring and summer. Wonder if he will wish to be outdoors at least some then in a safe environment, time will tell. Over time indoor life without other pigeon pals may get to be routine and boring for him.
 
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Today pigeon spent more time at my face level, this shows a lot more comfort on his part with me. He wanted to interact more with me and appreciated it a lot.
Actually I am tiring out now a bit, he wants so much interaction and affection, I can't keep up sometimes and it also feels routine after a while. He has sharp and powerful beak, pecks me a lot and it hurts. I am trying to soften him in this regard. One major concern is that he is just eating sunflower seeds and nothing else pretty much for the last few days, must make some soaked lentils etc., again in future. Perhaps if the sunflower seeds are hidden, he might start to try the other foods again also.
 
Old 12-25-2017, 02:10 PM   #71
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Paul is starting to stay close to me inside my sweater close to my chest, when I sit or even wherever I walk around. This is one of my xmas gifts perhaps. He doesn't wish to come out of my sweater now even if I try to pull him out.

He is also spending more time on my monitor and is relishing budgie seeds, all these are quite positive. Hopefully, will help him move towards better foods with time.
 
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You won't be able to let him go any more! You now have a pet pigeon.
 
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You won't be able to let him go any more! You now have a pet pigeon.
Seems so indeed, yes. It was his choice to stay, not mine. That is not all, my other parrots also love his presence and enjoy watching him.

Now I wonder and have another theory. Can it be possible that he is quite young and not old as I initially thought ? Perhaps he left the nest a bit early, wanted more paternal care, companionship, has reproductive issues not interested in mating, due to poor foraging skills wants a reliable, steady source of food ? Cause initially he was eating just a little, these days he is starting to need more food with time, he is more jovial and wanders around more.

Personally, I am stretched now to my limit, can't help another bird unless it is a very temporary thing. Perhaps I can support someone else who can do this if the need arises. Will cross that bridge when the time comes.
 
Old 12-26-2017, 10:26 AM   #74
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The real test will be in spring, summer, there will be a lot of loud pigeon flocks outside. If he shows interest in joining them, then I can't stop nature, will have to release him, it is all good if that happens. There is always some other person or critter that will come along who needs me help.
 
Old 12-26-2017, 11:21 AM   #75
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When it comes to rescues I was wondering if a sea gull is in my future. I read about these are realize that they are too powerful. They can injure my present parrots. So simply a sea gull is a no no for me in my tiny apt. I have my serious limits. I will limit myself to helping small and perhaps medium sized birds on a temp. basis. If I come across a needy seagull, I will take it ASAP to local SPCA and/or inform them. I read about wildlife rehab on net recently and they do a good job.
 
  


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