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Old 07-30-2005, 06:56 AM   #1
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A question on ReactOS


Hi folks,

The Website, ReactOS, MSWindows compatible OS, has been download for several days.

http://www.reactos.com/

Any folk on the forum has any information of its shutdown.

TIA

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Old 07-30-2005, 07:28 AM   #2
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I read this on their home page:
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We're currently experiencing some problems. As a result, this website is not available. Please check again in a few days.
Isn't that self-explanatory?
 
Old 07-30-2005, 07:35 AM   #3
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Hi Harishankar,

Yes, I saw that message several days. The Sourceforge project page is still working. But the mailing lists, documents, etc. are on its website.

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Old 07-30-2005, 07:46 AM   #4
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It's not uncommon for server downtimes... it happens to many sites. Sometimes it just takes longer to get back up.
 
Old 07-30-2005, 10:47 AM   #5
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Hi Harishankar,

Before I came across another similar project starting with Silxxxx, something like that. Unfornately I could not locate it. Both of them are heading for running M$Win drivers and applications.

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Old 07-30-2005, 10:51 AM   #6
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As was posted on the sourceforge pages:
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Posted By: xgecko
Date: 2005-07-23 06:37

Our website is currently down due to some DDoS attacks that happened recently. We will try to get it back up on August 1st, 2005. Sorry for inconvenience.
I guess you'll have to wait a day or two.
 
Old 07-30-2005, 11:22 AM   #7
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Originally posted by satimis

Before I came across another similar project starting with Silxxxx, something like that. Unfornately I could not locate it. Both of them are heading for running M$Win drivers and applications.[/B]
Hi folks,

I found it.

http://freshmeat.net/projects/shiloshos/

However it seems not active anymore. I hope that I'm wrong.

B.R.
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Old 07-30-2005, 02:30 PM   #8
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hmm , interesting project news in their sourceforge site , kind of "valid" ...
 
Old 07-30-2005, 07:31 PM   #9
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Hi alred,

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interesting project news in their sourceforge site , kind of "valid" ...
These two projects are very interesting. We can ran M$Windows applications and drivers purchased previously on these OSs. They are not Linux nor Unix. I don't know why its home page;

http://shilosh.sytes.net/

can't be found.

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Old 07-31-2005, 12:28 PM   #10
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These two projects are very interesting. We can ran M$Windows applications and drivers purchased previously on these OSs. They are not Linux nor Unix. I don't know why its home page;
that Shilosh OS might be another distro i guess , but currently as shown from sourceforge they are actually trying to release a live cd at around 2004 august but somehow it seems that that project is kind of freezed or what , i donno ....

had downloaded their last current release from sourceforge , tried it and found that those are
files and some executables for the initab file and rc.d directory , their bootup scripts work in a different way i guess and they are using XML to do that and with their own "boot loader" in rc.d directory , you can try it if you want directly from your current distro , just remember to backup your initab file and that bin executable in rc.d directory(accroding to my redhat) ...
infact it does'nt do much at all , wish they release their live cd(hope that it's a distro though) , if so we might have a free distro in the line of those better but commercial linux distros which build for ease of use and being user-friendly ...
 
Old 07-31-2005, 07:42 PM   #11
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Hi alred,

Tks for your advice.

Quote:
that Shilosh OS might be another distro i guess , but currently as shown from sourceforge they are actually trying to release a live cd at around 2004 august but somehow it seems that that project is kind of freezed or what , i donno ....
In the past, some projects on sourceforge or freshmeat discontinued for one or other reasons but new projects came out taking their place. Are you aware are there similar projects heading for this goal excluding ReactOS.

Quote:
<snip>

you can try it if you want directly from your current distro
You meant I can test Shilosh OS on a Linux box on separate partition? Wheher I have to build this OS similar to LFS (LinuxFromScratch) using the running Linux as Host. I wonder whether it can be built and can work alone on a blank HD.

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just remember to backup your initab file and that bin executable in rc.d directory(accroding to my redhat) ...
Copy "initab" and files in "rc.d" first before starting to build Shilosh OS? Then after testing, copy those files back to Linux distro to start Linux. Whether I need to remove all Shilosh OS files installed. OR I can keep them there if I need to test Shilosh OS several times but the Linux distro won't work at such a period.

TIA

Furthermore do you know where or which forum would be more appropriate to discuss Shilosh OS or M$ Windows compatible OS?

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Old 08-01-2005, 09:49 AM   #12
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yup , as far as this Shilosh OS downloadable packages currently on their sourceforge site , you can try it within your whatever distro currently you boot into , don't need to do that on another partition ...

you need to unpack ShiloshOS-bootscripts-0.1.tar.gz (just unpack)
and you need to complie their xml2var-v1.tar.gz and runsos-v1.tar.gz , just make them but don't install first

as root , after the make/compile then you can have a look at the MakeFile(for xml2var-v1 and runsos-v1) and the install script(for ShiloshOS-bootscripts-0.1 ) , see where they copy the files and executables , if clash with your current initab and files in your current rc.d or init.d or etc directories , you just rename these current original files to other name(and/or backup these to other location if you want) and start to copy ShiloshOS files to the intended location according to their MakeFile or install script ...
you can now reboot your machine now and let ShiloshOS to handle the sysinit bootup ...

infact it does'nt do anything much currently , just a different way of sysinit i guess ...

you can just rename back those previously renamed original files and use back the original sysinit ...
note :: these above method are done on a redhat9 though , not sure about the actual method for other distros ...

as for doing it on another partition(if you meant a kind of home-cooked customization of linux) , i guess you need to have at least a bare minimun linux installation with X and "latest" working KDE or GNOME , but without any users software applications installed yet(provided if that's possible) , you edit the kde or gnome to you own liking and needs , cut down unnessary fats and re-enhance for simplicity and users ease of use , then replace the sysinit stuffs with ShiloshOS , edit your lilo/grub to boot off this customized linux partition , after sucessfull bootup you may now populate this linux partition with wine and other usefull users applications ...
i never try this yet but i guess it may work ...

if you want to "publish" this customized linux partition as an installation cd , you may need a gui installer like anacronda(as in redhat) or lizard(as in lycoris) and others booting stuffs i guess , definately need to do some more further research or stepping through linux cd installer sources and see how other people do that , that's all i know , never try this before , maybe one of these days i will try this ...

stepping through the ShiloshOS MakeFiles and install script , following the files and directories , see how ShiloshOS sysinit their stuff and do the same thing to your current linux sysint(start from that /etc/initab) , get a feel of these stuffs first ...

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hope that i'm not too far out with all these though(needs to clarify more) ...

enjoy

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Old 08-01-2005, 10:00 AM   #13
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forget to mention , according to their project news , they mention that they are using WOLK Kernel and a customised wine(which is said to be 90% compatible with wins app i guess) , there's a seperate sourceforge project for this WOLK Kernel but i can't see their customised wine and their minimun live cd ...
 
Old 08-02-2005, 04:20 AM   #14
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Hi alred,

Shilosh OS
===========

I'm trying to prepare a summary of your advice as follows;

1)
Use a Linux distro as Host to build ShiloshOS, similar to building LFS (LinuxFromScratch). No partition is required


2)
Download following packages to a folder on /home e.g. /home/user/Shilosh/

2a)
ShiloshOS-bootscripts-0.1.tar.gz - just extract it as Root

2b)
xml2var-v1.tar.gz
runsos-v1.tar.gz
As Root run untar, ./config and make

What about ./configure? Any flag/option to be up?


3)
Quote:
.... , just make them but don't install first
Sorry. Here I don't understand. Just run "make" on console/Konsole and then change to another directory to extact another tarball. Or start 3 console/Konsole windows and run each of them on separate console/Konsole


4)
Quote:
as root , after the make/compile then you can have a look at the MakeFile(for xml2var-v1 and runsos-v1) and the install script(for ShiloshOS-bootscripts-0.1 ) , see where they copy the files and executables , if clash with your current initab and files in your current rc.d or init.d or etc directories , you just rename these current original files to other name(and/or backup these to other location if you want) and start to copy ShiloshOS files to the intended location according to their MakeFile or install script ...
you can now reboot your machine now and let ShiloshOS to handle the sysinit bootup ...
After running "./configure" and "make", look at thos files which they are going to change on Host (i.e. your Linux distro). Make copies of those files for recovery in case of crash, maintaining their original name with an ".org" added at the end.


5)
Afterwards continue installing the abovementioned files, "make install" and "make clean"


6)
After completion of above steps, reboot the Linux distro and "Shilosh" will start automatically


7)
Others noted with thanks


If I'm wrong please correct me. TIA

B.R.
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Old 08-02-2005, 06:17 AM   #15
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Re: A question on ReactOS

Quote:
Originally posted by satimis

Any folk on the forum has any information of its shutdown.
I'm on the ReactOS mailing list. Here's what happened:

Quote:
There are pretty strong indications that the reactos.com box was cracked. It
took part in a DDoS attack. As a consequence, it was isolated from the
network. Unfortunately, I'm on vacation right now so I don't have physical
access to the box and am unable to fix/reinstall.
For the moment, I've moved the mailing lists to a backup box. I am not
moving the website, since it seems the attack was carried out via the
website (a vulnerability in one of the php script packages we use). I'll put
up a dummy page informing visitors.
Not sure how far along the release of 0.2.7 is, but I'd like to suggest to
put it off for at least another week, until I'm back and can sort things
out.

Apologies for the inconvenience, Ge van Geldorp.
 
  


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