The only human society without politics is an absolute dictatorship. The only way humans get along without politics is by total isolation from each other, or total subservience. Neither appeals to me as a "utopia".

"absolute dictatorship" : It seems that in this Utopia, living City there is no dictatorship.
It seems to work without it.

And how do people resolve their differences?
If they kill each other, that is not "utopia" in my book! If they negotiate, that is politics. How do they decide things for the good of the group? If they discuss it and come to a decision, that is politics.

Utopias require the presence of a "benevolent dictator" who is loved by everyone and therefore accepted by everyone as (s)he tells everyone what to do and they willingly do it. Such a thing does not exist in real life.

They die within a generation, usually imploding on a sex scandal or a money scandal or both.

What about Slackware then?

I find this hilarious. You guys are slowly making progress at working out the conditions necessary for a Utopia and necessary Qualities in a Benevolent Dictator. One religion in particular has been offering you just that, repeatedly trying to tell you, and you don't want to know. Do you all secretly want to be the BDFL?

Get rid of private ownership of excessive toys which means one must dump capitalism and everyone under the sun is equal and does not covet what others have. Because technology can be organized to full fill all needs. Hospital care. Everything. Equal under the sun.

Never happen. Capitalism. Which walks hand in with politics and wars. Has been embedded into the social conscience so long it like breathing. So dream on.

This has to be planet wide change. One country that has it that good will likely be invaded. As human nature has shown.

https://www.thezeitgeistmovement.com/

Then there is " what about me " from this over crowded planets mind set everyone has to deal with.

Planetwide or it will never happen. Because we are acting like a virus lately.

I think you've got that backwards. It's the negative traits in human nature that feed materialism, not the other way around.

The idea in Exodus 20:17 is "you shall not covet." If we do, it's entirely a failure on our part.

Envy and hedonism occur as a result of weaknesses in human nature, not as a consequence of inequality or capitalism. Abolishing private property would not address the underlying cause of envy, and if history tells us anything, it won't even paper over the issue.

For instance, do you envy Jeff Bezos, Mark Zuckerberg, Bill Gates, or Elon Musk their wealth? I certainly don't, because I have a roof over my head and enough food to eat every day. The fact that others have in excess does not rob me of what I have. It's not a zero-sum game.

Now, I also have access to technology and luxury items that dwarfs the standards of even kings and emperors of old; that's probably true of just about everyone reading this. And yet, according to the current societal standards, I'm supposedly really poor.

I regularly see people much wealthier than myself claiming they're being economically oppressed, and saying they're entitled to some sort of compensation or handout just for existing. That's some real "coveting" right there, and it's the result of humans embracing the worst parts of their nature.

"Capitalism" (which is just a politically left-wing term for Free Markets) has next to nothing to do with it, although one could argue that excessive focus on material wealth doesn't exactly cultivate virtues like humility and generosity.

Yes, there are plenty of mythological figures which, while drowning in water, were cursed with a never-ending thirst.

Auroville is genuine.

Krishna McKenzie (featured around minute 7 to 9 or so in France24 viddy https://www.france24.com/en/tv-shows...y-of-auroville ), is also featured in a few youtube videos of Andrew Millison a well known permaculture expert from the Oregon state university and also features in the youtube channel "down to earth" - see https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5iOTq6kb4qM for example.

Pondicherry is a former French colony where the cops still wear Kepis and the older citizens still vote in French elections.

Do visit if you can.


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I don't have it backwards. It would make this worlds use case less stressful.

Everyone knows assholes are a dime a dozen.

By that standard one could consider all human beings as failures.

As a matter of interest: There is a lot of talk about what the Utopia must be like. There is very little talk about the Qualifications for entry. Let's presume that the BDFL had set stringent & uncompromising qualifications for entry. Would folks be prepared to make serious life adjustments to make sure the Utopia stayed a Utopia, or would you rather pass up on this offer?

Hmmm. Lobotomy entrance exam?