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Old 09-01-2024, 03:21 AM   #316
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Fair enough. But that just means they're using a VPN to access...something... It doesn't prove they're on Twitter.
No, but a cop with search warrant can.
 
Old 09-01-2024, 07:24 AM   #317
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A related topic imho is the current French action against the Telegram boss, Pavel Durov, who has always refused to release information about his user base. There's an interesting article on it in Wired.
 
Old 09-03-2024, 04:29 AM   #318
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The Western world is just salivating at the moment to crack down with censorship. I personally feel US, UK, Europe, NZ & Australia are just desperate to have what it feels like to be in absolute control kinda like China & Russia. They speak ill of them but I am beginning to think they want the crackdown cookie sooooo bad that the Constitution thing has become a sore point for these nations. What would it feel like to just have one party forever & save the democracy forever. LMAO.

I saw yesterday in NY Times lamenting on how dangerous the Constitution has become for democracy. Yup, I read that title two times & the provided subtitle. I really think we are on the edge of revolution.

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Old 09-04-2024, 06:10 PM   #319
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I personally feel US, UK, Europe, NZ & Australia are just desperate to have what it feels like to be in absolute control kinda like China & Russia.
The UK has already moved back to the Elizabeth I era. Where you can be jailed/imprisoned for saying something that the government disagrees with. They are doing that now. You can actually be put in jail in the UK for posting/saying something that government does not like.

I think that the civilized nations should boycott France and the UK for disrespecting human rights, just like we do to any third world nation.
 
Old 09-05-2024, 10:09 AM   #320
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An important win for X, other social media and more importantly, the First Amendment! In 'X Corp v. Bonta' the Ninth Circuit ruled that X Corp was likely to win a challenge to California's AB 587:
"The panel reversed the district court’s order denying social media platform owner X Corp.’s motion for a preliminary injunction to enjoin enforcement of California Assembly Bill AB 587 (AB 587), which requires large social media companies to post their terms of service and to submit reports to the Attorney General of California (the State) about their terms of service and their content-moderation policies and practices. ..."
More at the source:
https://cdn.ca9.uscourts.gov/datasto.../04/24-271.pdf



"Elon Musk
@elonmusk Congrats to the X.com legal team for defending freedom of speech, the bedrock of democracy!" https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1831411262829556036

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Old 09-05-2024, 07:00 PM   #321
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@elonmusk Congrats to the X.com legal team for defending freedom of speech, the bedrock of democracy!" https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1831411262829556036
Xitter is not a platform for free speech, it's an echo chamber for speech that the Muskovite agrees with.
 
Old 09-06-2024, 09:13 AM   #322
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A related topic imho is the current French action against the Telegram boss, Pavel Durov, who has always refused to release information about his user base. There's an interesting article on it in Wired.
"Pavel Durov
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❤️ Thanks everyone for your support and love!

Last month I got interviewed by police for 4 days after arriving in Paris. I was told I may be personally responsible for other people’s illegal use of Telegram, because the French authorities didn’t receive responses from Telegram.

This was surprising for several reasons:

1. Telegram has an official representative in the EU that accepts and replies to EU requests. Its email address has been publicly available for anyone in the EU who googles “Telegram EU address for law enforcement”.

2. The French authorities had numerous ways to reach me to request assistance. As a French citizen, I was a frequent guest at the French consulate in Dubai. A while ago, when asked, I personally helped them establish a hotline with Telegram to deal with the threat of terrorism in France.

3. If a country is unhappy with an internet service, the established practice is to start a legal action against the service itself. Using laws from the pre-smartphone era to charge a CEO with crimes committed by third parties on the platform he manages is a simplistic approach. Building technology is hard enough as it is. No innovator will ever build new tools if they know they can be personally held responsible for potential abuse of those tools.

Establishing the right balance between privacy and security is not easy. You have to reconcile privacy laws with law enforcement requirements, and local laws with EU laws. You have to take into account technological limitations. As a platform, you want your processes to be consistent globally, while also ensuring they are not abused in countries with weak rule of law. We’ve been committed to engaging with regulators to find the right balance. Yes, we stand by our principles: our experience is shaped by our mission to protect our users in authoritarian regimes. But we’ve always been open to dialogue.

Sometimes we can’t agree with a country’s regulator on the right balance between privacy and security. In those cases, we are ready to leave that country. We've done it many times. When Russia demanded we hand over “encryption keys” to enable surveillance, we refused — and Telegram got banned in Russia. When Iran demanded we block channels of peaceful protesters, we refused — and Telegram got banned in Iran. We are prepared to leave markets that aren’t compatible with our principles, because we are not doing this for money. We are driven by the intention to bring good and defend the basic rights of people, particularly in places where these rights are violated.

All of that does not mean Telegram is perfect. Even the fact that authorities could be confused by where to send requests is something that we should improve. But the claims in some media that Telegram is some sort of anarchic paradise are absolutely untrue. We take down millions of harmful posts and channels every day. We publish daily transparency reports. We have direct hotlines with NGOs to process urgent moderation requests faster.

However, we hear voices saying that it’s not enough. Telegram’s abrupt increase in user count to 950M caused growing pains that made it easier for criminals to abuse our platform. That’s why I made it my personal goal to ensure we significantly improve things in this regard. We’ve already started that process internally, and I will share more details on our progress with you very soon.

I hope that the events of August will result in making Telegram — and the social networking industry as a whole — safer and stronger. Thanks again for your love and memes 🙏
4:16 AM · Sep 6, 2024"
 
Old 09-19-2024, 12:26 AM   #323
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Apparently X is available again in Brazil and guess why: Musk has switched from his previous cloud provider to Cloudflare. And Brazil can't block them because their own government networks run on Cloudflare.

Nice to see our old nemesis doing something useful for a change!
 
Old 09-19-2024, 09:56 AM   #324
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Except Cloudflare can block Brazilian traffic to Twitter without blocking government traffic.

Being a for-profit company with shareholders, whether they will depends primarily on what path is perceived to be more profitable.

That may be be publicly siding with Twitter whilst privately sending details of all Twitter connections to the Brazilian government...

 
  


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