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Old 01-04-2020, 04:16 PM   #1
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A graduate student who has just completed the first year of study at a North American university.


In the preface of a book there is the following sentence:
Quote:
The reader is expected to have at least the knowledge and maturity of
a graduate student who has completed the first year of study at a North
American university or of a first year research student in the United
Kingdom.
I cannot understand. If he has just completed the first year how can he be a graduate? In my country after high school comes the university.

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Old 01-04-2020, 04:21 PM   #2
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A graduate student normally refers to someone undertaking a postgraduate degree such as a master's or PhD.
 
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But then how can he have just finished the first year in a university?
 
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He would be in the second year [at least] of his master's degree or his PhD.

Think not of the term 'graduate' referring to just when a degree is over. Someone is a graduate student throughout the rest of their academic career after their undergraduate degree has been completed.

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Old 01-04-2020, 04:48 PM   #5
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Since graduate programs are usually multi year commitments, I would presume they mean "...having completed the first year of a graduate program..."
 
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You complete your bachelor's degree, you graduate, and then you continue on to your master's degree as a GRADUATE STUDENT. Then you complete the first year of your master's degree program.

Googling for the quote shows that it's from a textbook meant for students of that level. Which makes sense. The book is therefore for students in the second year of their master's program.

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Old 01-04-2020, 05:57 PM   #7
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Thanks a lot. A pity I can't raise your reputation.
 
Old 01-04-2020, 06:38 PM   #8
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Thanks a lot. A pity I can't raise your reputation.
You can use the scales icon in the lower left area of their post. This allows you to give reputation points.
 
Old 01-04-2020, 11:48 PM   #9
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But then how can he have just finished the first year in a university?
The masters degree would come after completing a traditional four- or five-year undergraduate degree. In other words, that would be the first year of the masters program, not the first year of the undergraduate program. A typical North American undergraduate degree usually starts out somewhat general (or very general) and ends quite focused on a particular topic, though allowing for a minor in a side topic. The purpose is to provide a well-rounded base before drilling down into a particular topic. However, in Europe, as the result of the Bologna Process, the trend is to try to take shortcuts and as a result of the shortcuts you can be missing 40% or more of the content from a European undergraduate, depending on which universities and degrees you compare across the pond. Now that masters theses and PhD dissertations are published online you can sample a few from your field from different universities and usually see the difference. :/ However, even in the US and Canada there is a larger difference between a low quality university and a top of the line one. Price is not necessarily the difference either.

In the US or Canada the student starting a masters program would already have four or five years of university study behind them by then, depending on the speciality, ending in a concentration in a particular subject. So the first year referred to by your sentence would really be the first year of the second, but highly specialized, degree and the fifth or sixth year at university overall.

Not all PhD programs require masters degrees along the way, but many do. Nor do many masters students go on for PhDs. A masters degree is enough for basic research if that is where the interests lie, or else enough to give an in-depth knowledge of the subject to really work closely with the topic in either research or development.
 
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Thanks for your kind reply.

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