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Old 05-14-2021, 12:33 AM   #1
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A Gallon of milk isn't always a gallon of milk anymore (in the U.S.)


Title: A gallon of milk isn't always a gallon

In USA anyways,

I'm trying to convince my friend, that sometimes when you buy a gallon of milk (at a convenience store), that it looks like a gallon, but it's not 128 ounces.

She thinks that I'm actually buying a half gallon, but I'm telling her "no it looks like a gallon but is like 96 or 98 ounces or something."

I can't find any evidence on Google search or youtube search to support my case. Can anyone chime in, link me to it, or help me support my case - ?

I'd love a pic of these "gallon of milk looking jugs" which aren't a gallon to show her.


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Michael
 
Old 05-14-2021, 01:44 AM   #2
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A Gallon of milk isn't always a gallon of milk anymore (in the U.S.)

You buy milk in gallons? Doesn't it go bad before you finish it?

We buy it in 2 litre jugs here... and sometimes it goes bad before we finish it. There are 4 of us though.
 
Old 05-14-2021, 01:54 AM   #3
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You buy milk in gallons? Doesn't it go bad before you finish it?

We buy it in 2 litre jugs here... and sometimes it goes bad before we finish it. There are 4 of us though.
Umh, my family buys 2 gallons of milk at a time - we drink it quick. But that's not really what this post is about - respectfully.

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Old 05-14-2021, 02:12 AM   #4
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Well, in other areas, outside the US, I've seen packages scaled down in recent years. Examples inlude 1000ml -> 900ml bottles, 500g -> 450g packages, and similar down-sizing. As far as I can tell, almost everything at the grocery stores has undergone such a repricing lately. The decrease in package size is accompanied by noticable increases in price-per-package which, when you consider the unit cost, is quite a price jump. Everywhere I've ever traveled has shown signs of paving over their farm land as quickly as they can manage it, or permanently elimnating potable water, or both. So at some time in the near future a tipping point will get crossed.

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Old 05-14-2021, 02:20 AM   #5
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Im not finding any evidence on-line of downsized milk. I do remember when (in the 60s or 70s?) a pound of coffee suddenly only weighed 12oz.
 
Old 05-14-2021, 02:34 AM   #6
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Im not finding any evidence on-line of downsized milk. I do remember when (in the 60s or 70s?) a pound of coffee suddenly only weighed 12oz.
Me either on line, but I swear i've experienced it. I think a lot of people aren't noticing it yet, since the container "almost" looks like a full gallon.

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Old 05-14-2021, 03:53 AM   #7
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I don't remember the last time I bought or drank milk. It's been decades.
 
Old 05-14-2021, 04:25 AM   #8
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Don't food packaging regulations require size labelling?

And a US gallon never was a full sized gallon anyway...
 
Old 05-14-2021, 04:46 AM   #9
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Umh, my family buys 2 gallons of milk at a time - we drink it quick. But that's not really what this post is about - respectfully.
Personally, I'd be more concerned about the contents being "milk" instead of milk rather than the quantity.
 
Old 05-14-2021, 05:43 AM   #10
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You want proof, it does not need to be inferred. Measure them.

3+ gallons of milk purchased per week for one person, but they buy it their self.

99% of the time they go to a grocery store because they work at one, and convenience stores have way higher prices. Still, there are 2 or 3 major dairy brand types, and then stores have their own brand. I don't see crazy differences in packaging between them. Except Hood is unique, and also the most expensive so he doesn't buy that.
 
Old 05-14-2021, 07:47 AM   #11
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You want proof, it does not need to be inferred. Measure them.
Precisely.

And if it varies from what the packaging states, there's no doubt some organization that this can be reported to, but I doubt it will (except perhaps within <1% tolerances).

In the UK, milk can come in 4 pint cartons or in 2 litre cartons - the containers can be roughly similar sizes, but contain ~12% less liquid. They're only mistakable if you're not paying attention - the amount of liquid inside is labelled.


update: fixed numbers; I'm tired. :(

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Old 05-14-2021, 07:52 AM   #12
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A Gallon of milk isn't always a gallon of milk anymore (in the U.S.)

^ 2 litres is not "88% less" than 4 pints... It's 12% less.

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Old 05-14-2021, 07:55 AM   #13
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You want proof, it does not need to be inferred. Measure them.
100% true!

If there is variance, report it - start with store, then to HQ and if still nothing happens then perhaps FTC. There's link to report fraud on their home page.
 
Old 05-14-2021, 08:28 AM   #14
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I’m not finding any evidence on-line of downsized milk. I do remember when (in the ‘60s or ‘70s?) a pound of coffee suddenly only weighed 12oz.
Agreed. I buy milk on a regular basis and, as of yesterday, a gallon of milk is still a gallon of milk.
Coffee on the other hand is now in 10 oz. bags or in some cases 8 oz. bags. That is in the grocery stores. Can't remember the last time I saw a one pound bag or can of coffee, let alone a two pound can. One of the premium brands, with their own chain of coffee shops, still sells, in their shops only, by the pound, at outrageous prices.
I don't begrudge a profit, but as I've said before, we are now living in an era of unprecedented,
unconscionable, unbelievably shortsighted corporate greed. We are way beyond the greed of the 1920s and back then it took a worldwide depression and a world war to set things straight. Most, if not all, of the regulations passed in the 1930s to prevent it from happening again have been repealed or just plain ignored.
Never thought I would say I'm glad I'm getting old and, probably, won't live to see how it all shakes out.
Greed, as they say, knows no bounds, and certainly doesn't learn from history.

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Old 05-14-2021, 09:18 AM   #15
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British milk bottle sizing is inconsistent thanks to EU labelling laws, or to be fair, the way distributors reacted to them.

Milk was always sold in imperial pints (bigger than a US pint), but then the EU said everything had to be labelled in Litres...

So, some of the distributors took the opportunity to shrink the most common 4 pint bottles to 2 litres (hoping no one would notice), and others started labelling them as "2.272L (4 pints)"

Given that the US and Britain can't agree on what a gallon/pint/fl.oz is, it's probably best we all use Litres anyway.

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