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dogn00dles 02-27-2003 05:31 PM

A Clockwork Orange
 
Great book/movie here...the first seems to deal more with freedom than the latter, which centers on dehumanization. I have heard that the book is one of Burgess' worst, and though I haven't read anything else by him, I thought it was very original, funny, and wielded a terrifying message. Anway, here's what I thought of it:

Homeless Drunkard- Incarnation of Alex

Beethoven- The Human Spirit

Prison Charlie- Freedom (not much of a stretch there :))

Alex- Everyone...I don't think that was the message Burgess had in mind, but the way Kubrick used Beethoven to transplant Alex's brutal dynamo into us while he beat/raped/murdered people was just plain genius...towards the end, we were iin no condition to condemn Alex, as we experienced everything he did when he committed those crimes.

Anywho, that was what I made of it, I'd like to hear your opinions on that flick. If you haven't seen it/read it, I recommend you do so (preferrably with a droogy)! Later...

acid_kewpie 02-27-2003 05:34 PM

good british book, awful american film.

Q*Bert 02-27-2003 05:45 PM

(Me an' my droogs eyeballed that reelie many weeks before. Plenty of claret nice n'all)

Did you know that a spate of copy-cat violence sparked it being banned? It was only really re-released in the UK when Kubrick died. I reckon that means the film was actually quite good.

dogn00dles 02-27-2003 06:01 PM

interesting!...From what I heard, he was also recieving a lot of death threats because of it...

carrja99 02-27-2003 06:58 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Q*Bert
(Me an' my droogs eyeballed that reelie many weeks before. Plenty of claret nice n'all)

Did you know that a spate of copy-cat violence sparked it being banned? It was only really re-released in the UK when Kubrick died. I reckon that means the film was actually quite good.

Shows you how dumb the Brits are. Either way, both the book and movie are excellent (acidkewpie, you can go screw yourself) and many of Burghesses other works are equally interesting, except 1985. 1985 is really two books, the first half is an analysis of the book 1984, while the second part is Burghess' version of 1984 (titled 1985), which is quite awful.

je_fro 02-27-2003 07:05 PM

Wow!
 
I thought that it was a damn fine movie!

Q*Bert 02-27-2003 07:14 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by carrja99
Shows you how dumb the Brits are ...
We had to wait an anxious two tousand years for decent, American, freedom-loving US culture to come along. Oh the wait was worth it!

even if Disney was stolen from the brothers Grimm

Q*Bert

carrja99 02-27-2003 10:56 PM

LOL

Sorry, I can't help it. One of my first responses when I saw Lock, Stock, and Two Smoking Barrels was, "it was great seeing shitty East London. Those Brits always like to moan and moan about how much the cities in the US are falling apart, when thier own backyard looks like crap"

Thing is, Europeans are always anti-american, so I like mocking them by acting the same way.

So I say with pride...
Those damn brits!

SchwarzeFeen 02-27-2003 11:00 PM

Everything Disney was stolen from German fairy tales. What a cheap bastard

dogn00dles 02-28-2003 12:30 AM

Even Micky mouse? I feel like my whole life is a lie...


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