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Old 06-24-2016, 04:09 PM   #16
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Netflix is not worth the money.

They rarely get new stuff.
It is if you have kids.
 
Old 06-24-2016, 04:28 PM   #17
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I am sorry if I came across as complaining.

When I had Netflix, I was mostly interested in movies.

Netflix does have a lot to offer and the price is good.
 
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I do tend to find that Netflix isn't all that good for movies, once you've watched all the classic old ones. However, things like Orange Is The New Black and the fact there are some new, albeit trashy, movies added fairly regulalrly makes it about worth it to me.
However, I don't have broadcast TV at all so it's Netflix, Amazon Prime, YouTube and BBC iPlayer (though less nowadays) only for me. YouTube does have a surprising choice but, while I'm into free intellectual property, I am willing to pay for entertainment and do find Google does seem to be hijacking intellectual property laws to sell adverts making Netflix a more sustainable choice, perhaps.
 
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I'd imagine that the Xbox Scorpio would be 4k...
 
Old 06-24-2016, 07:08 PM   #20
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I'd imagine that the Xbox Scorpio would be 4k...
Will the games for it be in 4k though? Most of the games for the 1080p systems were 720p.
 
Old 06-24-2016, 08:07 PM   #21
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Will the games for it be in 4k though? Most of the games for the 1080p systems were 720p.
No console does full 1080p natively when it comes to games, it has to scale down around 900p or so in order not to lose frames, which it does anyways. 4K gaming is out there on the pc, but not very well supported. SLI is a must, but nothing is native in 4K and still runs like crap.

Again, if it is not originally in 4k, it will be upscaled and look most likely like crap. Case in point about today's movies, I shudder to think that they are probably shot digitally and NOT on celluloid, so if it is originally shot in 1080p when it comes time to release a 4k bluray of it, well..........

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iYHOZG8oFJ8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mtKjMS3pM-c
 
Old 06-24-2016, 08:23 PM   #22
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I'm more excited about OLED than 4K. At the moment I don't care enough to get 4K for video or gaming, but maybe more for a desktop monitor. My laptop has a 14" 1080p screen which looks nice. Makes my 22" 1080p monitors not look so good.
 
Old 06-24-2016, 09:01 PM   #23
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No console does full 1080p natively when it comes to games, it has to scale down around 900p or so in order not to lose frames, which it does anyways. 4K gaming is out there on the pc, but not very well supported. SLI is a must, but nothing is native in 4K and still runs like crap.

Again, if it is not originally in 4k, it will be upscaled and look most likely like crap. Case in point about today's movies, I shudder to think that they are probably shot digitally and NOT on celluloid, so if it is originally shot in 1080p when it comes time to release a 4k bluray of it, well..........

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iYHOZG8oFJ8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mtKjMS3pM-c
Interesting that the movie companies are not shooting in 4K.

So any movies released as 4K are lying.
 
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Interesting that the movie companies are not shooting in 4K.

So any movies released as 4K are lying.
Exactly. If you are going to buy a movie 'in 4k' you have a better chance of buying movies made until around early to mid 2000s because it would be in celluloid and can be remastered properly in 4k. Anything after that, if it is shot digitally will already be in 1080p , or hopefully at least saved in some kind of RAW format where exporting to 4k will be a proper process and no quality loss, but I wouldn't hold my breath.

Even if you have film-to-4k transfers, it also depends on the company doing it. There are some pretty God awful transfers to 1080, and there are some really good ones, i.e. The Neverending Story , NOT the sequels btw. I have the bluray of the movie and it's transition to 1080p is perfect, but thats because they did NOT half-ass the process. Then again, it wasn't really an American company anyways that transferred it.
 
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Well, yes, apart from things like The Hobbit which are shot in 4K being, apparently, shot on two of these. But other than that I take the point that 4K is a little pointless if you're just seeing digitally upscaled content as your graphic card will do that for you if you happen to have a 4K monitor and watch video on it the same way that 640*480 can still be watched full screen.
I would like 4K for the extra pixels -- I'd replace my 24" 1920*1200 with a ~30" 4K and gain screen real estate that, with a larger monitor, I could actually see.
To me that's the reason for 4K -- it allows the proper use of large screens. If I bought a ~30" monitor at my current resolution I'd just have a larger picture of the same desktop and not gain anything.
 
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Interesting that the movie companies are not shooting in 4K.

So any movies released as 4K are lying.
They do shoot in at least 2K though.
 
Old 06-25-2016, 11:53 AM   #27
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They do shoot in at least 2K though.
Right, 1440p, but then they have to re-classify certain blurays as 2K only, and NOT 4K which would be false advertising.
 
Old 06-25-2016, 12:14 PM   #28
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I have a 40" 1080p TV.

I can see no difference in resolution between Blu Ray and a normal DVD.

Wonder why ?

Is it because many BluRays are not really H.D. ?
 
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I have a 40" 1080p TV.

I can see no difference in resolution between Blu Ray and a normal DVD.

Wonder why ?

Is it because many BluRays are not really H.D. ?
Probably because of a few things:
The DVD image is upscaled so all the pixels are different, just some are extrapolated and not native.
Some of the Blu Ray titles were created with extrapolation so there's no real difference.
Some of the Blu Ray and DVD titles are taken from film prints so you'll see any film artefacts in either.
1080 isn't all that hig ha resolution at that size so it's going to look pixelated up close, for example/

Other, similar reasons also I'm sure other will list.


Video shot on 4K cameras shown on 4K displays of sufficient size will be obviously different to anyone but those with sight problems. On a 40" display the pixels will be apparent up close so for watching movies at a distance you may not notice but gaming and/or closer to the display you likely would.
 
Old 06-25-2016, 12:24 PM   #30
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I don't know of anywhere one can pick up a set of DVDs of a entire multiple season TV series, even from the used shops, for $10.00, or less.
You should check out your local public library!!! Got the entire Boardwalk Empire series(all seasons), all Black Adder, and am working on Game of Thrones. There's many more available but we hardly have time to watch what I've already ripped with HandBrake and saved for a rainy day. If you live in or near a major metropolitan area, check out your local public library. Even smaller communities now have pretty extensive sharing networks with other libraries and they can often get you what you want if you're willing to wait a bit.
 
  


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