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Jeebizz 05-07-2009 12:45 PM

3D Realms goes under.
I was never much for pc gaming these days, like I was a decade ago, but this is kinda sad. I remember playing the original Duke Nukem, and have fond memories of the original Wolfenstein. I can't believe they were working on the 'latest' Nukem game for 12 YEARS though! :eek:

SlowCoder 05-07-2009 02:27 PM

Ditto on that! I loved the old games of yore. I have most of the original Apogee and 3DRealms games in my archives ... somewhere ...

Sad to see them go, but that's the way business runs, and they were apparently falling behind.

b0uncer 05-07-2009 03:53 PM

I wondered too where the "latest/greatest" DukeNukem went, always hearing that it's "in development" but never arrived at stores.. The older DNs, up to and including 3D, were sort of fun to play back then---but I really don't wonder this. Every series is bound to fail at some point, and if three successful pieces are made, it's more than better; they should simply have stopped at the DukeNukem 3D and either have gone on a vacation or started doing something completely different.

It reminds me of the Doom case: the original video games (I and II) were good in their ways, but anything that was made after them..not so. And then they did the Trash Trick, turned the downhill garbage into a movie, which was like wrapping the whole thing into a coffin and burying more than six feet under. Only DukeNukem didn't even get to the movie stage (and I hope it never will).

PatrickMay16 05-07-2009 06:58 PM

It's kind of sad. It was always fun to hear the latest news on the development of Duke Nukem Forever. I guess now it's over for certain.

lumak 05-07-2009 10:34 PM

They got the joke wrong at the end... It's "Duke Nukem Fornever" Either way, I thought it was a joke when they started releasing the screen shots.

ProtoformX 05-08-2009 12:18 AM

iD software and Epic Games are the only ones left now, :( I think the gaming on the PC took a serious blow, I have a feeling that with the demise of 3DR commercial gaming will slowly die off and the only thing left will be graphic demos (the older skool ASM ones) and open source games... tis a sad day to be a PC gamer. :(

Mega Man X 05-10-2009 06:48 AM

Well, it was about time they went down. 3D Realms was a joke as a developer. As a producer they were ok. They did make the good old Duke Nukem 3D, but that is pretty much it. All they've done on the past years was to keep on releasing screenshots and whatnot of their vaporware Duke Nukem Forever.

That is just one of their mistakes. Other include not releasing console games as much as they should. Taking the "not releasing anything for the Wii" approach is a big mistake these days considering who much Wii-consoles exist.

I'd agree though, PC gaming is dying. Which is a good thing if you ask me. Publishers have been pushing the most disgusting copy protections in history. Now it looks like activation for one machine is the "cool" new thing. It means you get a game, activate it on your machine and you can kiss it goodbye. If you upgrade to a new machine, well, poor you, you've got to buy another copy. If you have a laptop to game at the office after the work, sorry, get another copy.

The PC-Gaming industry is failing because the publishers got greedy and kept harassing legal costumers with activation, copy protection and what not. They should have taken a lesson from Demigod. While it is a subpar game in all aspects except perhaps the multiplayer, it was a success despite the amount of pirated copies.

PC also is the second platform most developers consider today. If you look what PC has got for games the past years you will see that they are basically half-arsed ports of consoles games. Years ago, it was the other way around.

For me, it does not matter. I always preferred gaming on consoles anyway...

Crito 05-17-2009 08:32 AM

As long as two companies remain it's not a monopoly and capitalists can still claim we live in a free market society.

I'm just glad no one is enforcing antitrust law. The economy might have recovered otherwise. :P

Crito 05-17-2009 09:51 AM

And not that it matters much, as the public believes the "if it ain't a monopoly" boolshiat they hear on the propaganda outlets (like CNN and Fox News), but antitrust law applies to corporate oligarchies and cartels too.

Since Wikipedia is a bastion of communist liberal thinking, take it from the conservatives who did zero antitrust enforcement the last 8 years:

Though I think Wikipedia got one thing right, capitalism and communism are flip sides of the same elitist coin.


Capitalism as a social system is sometimes described as an oligarchy. Socialists argue that in a capitalist society, power - economic, cultural and political - rests in the hands of the capitalist class. Socialist and communist states have also been seen as oligarchies, being ruled by a class with special privileges, the nomenklatura.
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So, which is better, ATI or nVidia? Republicrat or Democan? Coke or Pepsi? Good thing we live in a free country with sooooo many choices. Oh, and don't forget that if you refuse to participate in the conspiracy (by choosing/voting) then you have no right to complain! <insert long rant littered with four letter expletives here>
Duke Nukem Forever!

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