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Old 03-14-2017, 04:42 PM   #181
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styxhexenhammer666 - Populism and Nativism Have Already Won This Generation: You'll See What I Mean
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Their insane growth and the collapse of the center makes their rule inevitable, if not now, then next time around: http://archive.is/CtkCO
Another long video sorry, but as always I like his analysis - the gist is this though:
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  • Populist movement written off by establishment parties & media.
  • Those who written off said movements did not expect those in smaller towns/cities to vote and vote for a populist movement
  • Euroskeptics also written off
  • Attempts to suppress and even censor such movements only help populist movements
  • If not a populist movement, definitely there will still be a conservative move - generations after millennial are leaning conservative
  • Nobody took those who theorised that there would be a chance of the EU fracturing, now it is a possibility
  • Social media has led to the rise of populism - old media cannot compete
  • Establishment parties seen as out of touch - and continue to refuse to recognise the direction things are going
Still I recommend taking the time to watch the video in it's entirety because there are very good anecdotes and analysis.
 
Old 03-14-2017, 04:57 PM   #182
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I think that we should be very careful to define our terms – to be sure that we say what the term "populist" means to us.

Nevertheless, I think that it is quite inevitable that there will now be a strong push-back against the thinking that, I believe, really started in the 1980's ... (hey, it pays to be an Old Phart) ... with "Reaganomics."

At about this time, the prevailing political and business philosophy became, "borrow from the future to pay for the past." Then, for the next several decades, we removed one bastion after another. All in the name of "globalism." All in the name of maximizing financial returns in a financial system that increasingly had nothing-at-all to do with production of actual goods.

The "millennials," frankly, are the ones who have been taking it in the shorts. And, when they become adults and it finally occurs to them to stop taking the "zombie drugs" that they've been dutifully taking since about age five because mamma's doctor told them to, now they are "pissed!" And they most-certainly have a right to be.

The "globalists," dreaming of a "new world government" consisting only of businessmen, made a boat-load of promises that also didn't pan out. In America, there are about 11 million citizens who used to be gainfully employed as computer programmers, and about 10 million non-immigrants who are beginning to figure out that they've been cruelly used by the very same hucksters who sold them "the promised land." They, too, are human beings who were not born yesterday.

It's going to take some time to reverse things, but "reversing things" will happen, because the Real People who are in various ways caught up in this mess clearly understand "this mess" and what must be done about it. Even as their elected politicians, drunk as they are with bribery, continue to play dumb.

- - -

Basically, a generation is finally having to confront: "These leaders ... are drunk. No, they are un-reformed alcoholics, whose chosen intoxicant happens to be money. They're perfectly content to waste themselves away a-n-d to drag all of us down to Hell right along with them, while all-the-time insisting that 'all of us have no other choice.'"

And what they are basically now doing is ... taking away the car-keys.

Because:
  • The strategies and world-views promoted for so long by these people ... don't work.
  • Their notions of "international trade" are ... a race to the bottom.
  • But ... t-h-e-y are insulated(!) ... (heh, funny how that happens) ... from any possible negative effects. (Or, so they think.)
  • ... "and meanwhile, the rest of us" ... have a world (of humans) to run. We ... throughout the world ... are the "true stakeholders" in this mess, and we have been mis-led and betrayed by a very greedy bunch of people who are now racing for the exits. (We should not pretend to be surprised.)
  • And some guy who calls himself "styxhexemhammer666" ... and countless others world-wide just like him ... has(!) 'a world-wide(!!) bully pulpit!
"The times, they are a'changin' ..."

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Old 03-14-2017, 06:15 PM   #183
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I think that we should be very careful to define our terms – to be sure that we say what the term "populist" means to us.
It won't matter, those die-hard snowflakes will automatically paint any sort of populist movement as far right, racist other-ist, whatever even though in the gentleman's video I just recently posted, it is not in any way a far right movement it is just a sane movement and response to the failure of globalist ideas.

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Nevertheless, I think that it is quite inevitable that there will now be a strong push-back against the thinking that, I believe, really started in the 1980's ... (hey, it pays to be an Old Phart) ... with "Reaganomics."
Well I am just a millennial so I weep for my generation - because yes majority is just this insulated culture, 'my safe space' crap that is just petulant to no end.

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At about this time, the prevailing political and business philosophy became, "borrow from the future to pay for the past." Then, for the next several decades, we removed one bastion after another. All in the name of "globalism." All in the name of maximizing financial returns in a financial system that increasingly had nothing-at-all to do with production of actual goods.
Not just that, but also spend money we do not have on outside and forget the ones within your own borders. Again, styx eluded to this as the lost generation - and Gen Z is clearly headed towards conservatism - I like to think of myself a bit progress in some aspects, but again the bleeding social warriors have themselves to blame.

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The "millennials," frankly, are the ones who have been taking it in the shorts. And, when they become adults and it finally occurs to them to stop taking the "zombie drugs" that they've been dutifully taking since about age five because mamma's doctor told them to, now they are "pissed!" And they most-certainly have a right to be.
To reiterate we millennials have been brought up by this 'tolerant' Gen X and have taken it to such an extreme and so insulated, it has become a joke and rightfully so it should be mocked. I myself can probably pinpoint as the early to mid-1990s this sort of neo-liberal mindset that has been coming out of everything from education to entertainment. I was pretty much a kid at that time, but I like to think of myself as more aware than most others at that time - not like I fit in anyways, I was a loner and glad I was .

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The "globalists," dreaming of a "new world government" consisting only of businessmen, made a boat-load of promises that also didn't pan out. In America, there are about 11 million citizens who used to be gainfully employed as computer programmers, and about 10 million non-immigrants who are beginning to figure out that they've been cruelly used by the very same hucksters who sold them "the promised land." They, too, are human beings who were not born yesterday.

It's going to take some time to reverse things, but "reversing things" will happen, because the Real People who are in various ways caught up in this mess clearly understand "this mess" and what must be done about it. Even as their elected politicians, drunk as they are with bribery, continue to play dumb.
Not just business but again, there needs to be a purge of this sort of thinking - from business, entertainment and more crucially education. Facts and truth are not to be sugar coated, there is a reason that history classes are supposed to also talk about darker subjects. As for those who are drunk off their assess still from bribery and their status, they are already being rudely awakened - sure also they can deny to the very end, but they are losing the argument.

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Basically, a generation is finally having to confront: "These leaders ... are drunk. No, they are un-reformed alcoholics, whose chosen intoxicant happens to be money. They're perfectly content to waste themselves away a-n-d to drag all of us down to Hell right along with them, while all-the-time insisting that 'all of us have no other choice.'"

And what they are basically now doing is ... taking away the car-keys.

Because:
  • The strategies and world-views promoted for so long by these people ... don't work.
  • Their notions of "international trade" are ... a race to the bottom.
  • But ... t-h-e-y are insulated(!) ... (heh, funny how that happens) ... from any possible negative effects. (Or, so they think.)
  • ... "and meanwhile, the rest of us" ... have a world (of humans) to run. We ... throughout the world ... are the "true stakeholders" in this mess, and we have been mis-led and betrayed by a very greedy bunch of people who are now racing for the exits. (We should not pretend to be surprised.)
  • And some guy who calls himself "styxhexemhammer666" ... and countless others world-wide just like him ... has(!) 'a world-wide(!!) bully pulpit!
"The times, they are a'changin' ..."
Yes all true, however again this type of movement against the globalist and these power hungry 'drunkards' should not relent and should definitely keep the pressure on, the only danger in all this is that I do anticipate acts of further desperation by these elites, who knows what other cards they may still have to play before it is all over.
 
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Sargon of Akkad - Blood in the Water
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The world is hungrily watching the Netherlands' 2017 elections.
 
Old 03-15-2017, 01:08 PM   #185
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RT - Wilders: I’m no Trump but media equally tough on me
 
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An interesting analysis after the Dutch result:

styxhexenhammer666 - Wilders (Predictable) Loss Is Still a Major Increase for Populism
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Gaining momentum is not a loss in a system with so many parties: http://archive.is/V2I9w
 
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Every country on Earth is going to have to find its own way to a governmental policy that works best for them. But, I think, we are finally seeing "traction gained" in the popular (call it "populist" if it makes you feel good) realization that what we've been doing for about the past forty years is not, actually, the right way to go.

Someone tried to use the mechanism of international trade agreements to supersede the idea of "national identity and sovereignty," imposing what is basically a "one world government," starting with particular regions such as Europe, but also with regard to the US, Canada, and Mexico.

(They were more conservative in their strategy West of the Pond, but still sought to "sue the United States and to impose billion-dollar penalties" in a 'court' composed of businessmen – the "crime" being that they weren't being allowed to make as much money as they wanted to.)

And these various attempts, in the eyes of ordinary people, are not succeeding. People understand that now. There are going to be big changes in the EU. The NAFTA treaty will probably be scrapped (and it might well be Mexico that starts the ball rolling). We're not going to give up our national identities nor the supremacy of our laws in order to "trade with one another." We're also going to push back on the idea of "importing" millions of laborers from foreign lands.

You can still make lots of money from international trade, but it's not going to be quite as easy as you thought. It will be more prosperous for all concerned, however. That's what happens when nations trade with one another [only] from a position of s-t-r-e-n-g-t-h.

If every nation takes the position, "<<me>> First!™>>" and if everyone knows, going in to a potential "deal," that this is the most fundamental ground rule and that everyone will be sticking to it ... we're going to wind up with much better deals. The nature of trade will be much different, but there will be far more money in circulation (because everyone has jobs), and far more sustainable(!) profit will be achieved.

The only folks who might be unhappy are the shipping companies, because the USA will start making its own socks, its own underwear, and its own screwdrivers and toasters again.

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Old 03-16-2017, 06:40 PM   #188
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Every country on Earth is going to have to find its own way to a governmental policy that works best for them. But, I think, we are finally seeing "traction gained" in the popular (call it "populist" if it makes you feel good) realization that what we've been doing for about the past forty years is not, actually, the right way to go.
It's detractors still would like to paint any sort of populist or popular movement as some right-wing racist bogeyman.

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Someone tried to use the mechanism of international trade agreements to supersede the idea of "national identity and sovereignty," imposing what is basically a "one world government," starting with particular regions such as Europe, but also with regard to the US, Canada, and Mexico.
The suppression of national identity and sovereignty by shaming anyone who brings up the idea was pretty much the tactic - but that is not working anymore. It is not shameful to see that one's own nation has a future.

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(They were more conservative in their strategy West of the Pond, but still sought to "sue the United States and to impose billion-dollar penalties" in a 'court' composed of businessmen – the "crime" being that they weren't being allowed to make as much money as they wanted to.)
Unfortunately there are other crimes that they the businessmen carry out - funding conflicts, fomenting crisis', etc they already make so much money but that it is never enough, and who cares if people get killed - its not them.

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And these various attempts, in the eyes of ordinary people, are not succeeding. People understand that now. There are going to be big changes in the EU. The NAFTA treaty will probably be scrapped (and it might well be Mexico that starts the ball rolling). We're not going to give up our national identities nor the supremacy of our laws in order to "trade with one another." We're also going to push back on the idea of "importing" millions of laborers from foreign lands.
The situation in the EU is much more pronounced - and yes this sort of mindset of importing workers is not sustainable. What of the native population then? What will they do? And why should their own country offer benefits to those who are migrants, let alone those who do not even WANT to integrate at least. I know I am treading a dangerous line here in this discussion, but it is no secret - majority of the 'refugees' in Europe are not all Syrian - also most do not have any sort of intention of adopting the local customs of their adoptive country. Make no mistake, I have no issue with immigrants/migrants, hell technically I am one (naturalised US Citizen) - *but* - as an immigrant I feel that my own arguments destroys the bullcrap narrative that anyone who wants migrants/immigrants to assimilate is insensitive or worse. No, it is a logical view - you do not go into someone's house and start dictating how things should be? So why should this be any different? You go into another nation and plan to live there, learn the language, and assimilate and abide by their laws, nobody is stating that they should outright throw out their personal religious beliefs or anything like that. Thats all I will say about that.

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You can still make lots of money from international trade, but it's not going to be quite as easy as you thought. It will be more prosperous for all concerned, however. That's what happens when nations trade with one another [only] from a position of s-t-r-e-n-g-t-h.

If every nation takes the position, "<<me>> First!™>>" and if everyone knows, going in to a potential "deal," that this is the most fundamental ground rule and that everyone will be sticking to it ... we're going to wind up with much better deals. The nature of trade will be much different, but there will be far more money in circulation (because everyone has jobs), and far more sustainable(!) profit will be achieved.
It is not so much a question of 'me first' - there is nothing wrong in some self interest - what is wrong is that a nation must bend over and just accept whatever is demanded upon them, because of the financial incentive outweighing what is actual beneficial to the population as a whole. It is about the short term, not long term - that quick profit, that doesn't work anymore. Remember after the crash of `07-08? To this day since, the market is at record highs, but based on what? It is only a matter of time when there will be a correction on the market - there is no logical reason let alone a sustainable one that the market is at 20+K in points. It is a facade propped up by government money. Nobody really in their right minds would ever investing say $10,000 of their own money, just for a return of $5,000! The money in the stock market is recycled and it is a matter of time until the next crash. The banks and the fed. reserve would love for someone like us to put our money into the stock to further prop up - offered incentives, and of course some suckers bought it. Never mind also that our own money was used last decade to bail their worthless assess because 'they were too big to fail'.

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The only folks who might be unhappy are the shipping companies, because the USA will start making its own socks, its own underwear, and its own screwdrivers and toasters again.
I will be happy to buy American - with the exception of electronics or cars .

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RT Crosstalk - Whats left?
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What is left of the political left has seen voters across the western world look to new parties and leaders. Does liberalism and today’s liberals have any answers to the problems we face? Or are they the problem? CrossTalking with John Laughland, Kees Van Der Pijl, and Jeff Deist.

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Increasing censorhip in the West and how it relates to the rise populism

So - as I also touched upon before there seems to be an attempt at further and further censoring of content that would be deemed 'inappropriate' or 'offensive'. That in of itself should obviously be subject, what one finds offensive someone else would find interesting - same with a joke etc.

While I also have indicated that it is possible that the USA would possibly try to implement some kind of China-style censorship - it may seem that the EU is already been trying to implement it.

First the US:

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New York Assemblyman Unveils Bill To Suppress Non-Government-Approved Free Speech

In a bill aimed at securing a "right to be forgotten," introduced by Assemblyman David I. Weprin and (as Senate Bill 4561 by state Sen. Tony Avella), liberal New York politicians would require people to remove ‘inaccurate,’ ‘irrelevant,’ ‘inadequate’ or ‘excessive’ statements about others...
Academia in the US has already been doing it's own self-censorhip for better part of at least a decade now, but in the EU things do seem much worse. Holding any opposing view points in some EU states may just land you in jail. Lets not also forget the nanny-state that the UK has become.

styxhexenhammer666 - European Censorship Is Now Similar to That of China
 
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Sourpuss Merkel: http://archive.is/VbL8s
 
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Huh? From your other link:

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Huh? From your other link:
Others on that channel did point that out as well in the comments.
 
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styxhexenhammer666 - Erdogan Tells Muslims in Europe to Have 5 Kids; Cavusoglu Warns of Wars of Religion

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For a long time it was "just a conspiracy theory" when someone said islamists would do this: http://archive.is/rYyJk
Key points:
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  • Violent backlash - even those who are integrated will face violence
  • Symptoms are nationalism, nativism and populism
  • Unfettered multiculturalism/immigration is the root cause of said symptoms
 
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It will not be long now:

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Article 50: Theresa May to trigger Brexit process next week

Prime Minister Theresa May is to officially notify the European Union next Wednesday that the UK is leaving.
 
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Meet the new boss, same as the old boss. The words of candidate Trump and the actions of the president are in glaring opposition. Is this the lack of vision or the tools to make it happen? CrossTalking with Mark Sleboda, Dmitry Babich, and Adam Garrie.
 
  


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