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birdboy 11-15-2018 11:41 AM

[OT] Any fixed-gear bicycle owners/fans amongst Slackware users?
 
It just seems so fitting with Slackware philosophy -- simplicity, reliability, complete control etc...

If there are any fellow Slackware fixie owners/interest around here, tomorrow I might snap some photos of mine. Took me two-three years total to finish the bad boy.

Lysander666 11-15-2018 12:59 PM

I do have one... it's been D-locked to the car park railing of my old residential block for about six years. I went back the other day and it's still there.

Owning a bike is London is a huge pain in the arse. Unless you have somewhere inside your block, or ideally inside your flat, to store it, it's hardly worth the bother. I had so many parts to my bike stolen when I used it regularly - the front light, the back like, the seat over, the saddle clamp - yes, some thieves actually removed the saddle, took the clamp from the frame and put the saddle back. Bizarre.

The last straw was one Winter when I was too lazy to lock both wheels to the railing outside my old flat so I locked just one, thinking that nothing would happen. I came back a few hours later and one of the wheels had been taken. From that point on I thought, forget it, and just left the bike D-locked to the railing. It's been there ever since.

I take my hat off to anyone who can hold onto their bike and its components. I wish I still had one to ride, but it's just too much hassle. Still, post your pics, OP.

dugan 11-15-2018 01:21 PM

No. My city is hilly and I need the gears.

onebuck 11-15-2018 01:24 PM

Member Response
 
Hi,

I no longer have fixed gear bikes. The last two were taking up space in my winter home garage here in Florida. I put them out at the end of the driveway and someone picked them up in less than a hour. I kept my 12 speed off road for future use. It's racked in the garage. I have two at home in Illinois, one is a 12 and the other 16. The 16 is a cross country and is ridden very little any more. It needs new rubber and they are expensive and I cannot see investing more. I should sell it but many memories from the rides that were made on her.

Both off rode bikes are horses and love to ride on occasion. I no longer can make century rides or long endurance rides. Just flat land rides for general exercise.

I do remember when I was younger and used my fixed gears to deliver my paper routes. One I had with monkey springs and loved to deliver on them except when the bag would get caught in the spring. I learned to put a cut piece of tire over the spring head. But that was a smooth ride and was I ever in great shape from all the mourning and evening deliveries. Kids I know today won't even consider delivery of papers or and other manual labor (speaking about my grand kids).

As kids that was one of the many ways for us to make money.

Have fun & enjoy!
:hattip:

ruario 11-15-2018 01:50 PM

Does a unicycle count? It is fixed wheel and doesn't get a lot simpler. I regularly commute via unicycle. I wrote a short blog post about it on my employers blog for "Cycle to Work Day":

https://vivaldi.com/blog/cycle-to-work-day/

ruario 11-15-2018 02:03 PM

And since that blog post, I fixed the broken bearings on the 36"er. In fact I commuted on it to work today.

Alien Bob 11-15-2018 02:04 PM

Please discuss stuff like this in the "General" forum. It has nothing to do with Slackware. The subject of the General forum is "This forum is for non-technical general discussion which can include both Linux and non-Linux topics. Have fun!"

l0f4r0 11-16-2018 04:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alien Bob (Post 5926477)
Please discuss stuff like this in the "General" forum. It has nothing to do with Slackware. The subject of the General forum is "This forum is for non-technical general discussion which can include both Linux and non-Linux topics. Have fun!"

It seems the OP posted this non-technical subject into Slackware forum in order to get feedbacks from Slackware users only (+ he did a comparison with the Slackware philosophy). So I don't know what to think about it: is it not appropriate here because it's not Slackware-technical directly related or is it appropriate because it helps to bring the Slackware users closer?

Lysander666 11-16-2018 04:27 AM

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Originally Posted by l0f4r0 (Post 5926628)
is it appropriate because it helps to bring the Slackware users closer?

Basically this. The OP was interested specifically in the mindset of Slackware users that carries over into other aspects of their personal lifestyles, in this case using a fixed gear bicycle. Another example might be using a dumbphone instead of a smartphone or using a film camera instead of a digital. The implication is that the use of Slackware is not an isolated example in people's lives: it appeals to its users because its methodology exemplifies an intimate ethic.

Alien Bob 11-16-2018 04:46 AM

You don't have to pollute the technical Slackware forum with posts about bicycles to bring Slackware users closer. We have IRC channels for that. Or the LQ General Forum.

Lysander666 11-16-2018 04:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Alien Bob (Post 5926632)
You don't have to pollute the technical Slackware forum with posts about bicycles to bring Slackware users closer. We have IRC channels for that. Or the LQ General Forum.

Indeed, though I personally don't like IRC much and I find that the standard of conversation on the other LQ boards to be rather lower than on the Slackware board. This place definitely has the highest level of conversation. I totally take your point Eric, nevertheless, it is nice to find something personal out about our other forum members, e.g. I found it very interesting and highly novel that ruario uses a unicycle regularly. We could always have one thread here for all the 'personal' stuff, but I can see how that could be frowned upon.

ruario 11-16-2018 06:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Lysander666 (Post 5926630)
Another example might be using a dumbphone instead of a smartphone []. The implication is that the use of Slackware is not an isolated example in people's lives: it appeals to its users because its methodology exemplifies an intimate ethic.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lysander666 (Post 5926637)
I found it very interesting and highly novel that ruario uses a unicycle regularly.

FWIW, I also completely stopped using a smartphone two years ago and went back to a dumb phone. :p

birdboy 11-16-2018 07:23 AM

OK, here are some quick and dirty pics I've done today.

birdboy 11-16-2018 07:24 AM

And a few more.

birdboy 11-16-2018 07:30 AM

Frame is FBM Sword, raw cromoly, just with clear-coat over, so you can see the welds nicely.

Front fork was also raw & clear like the frame, but I plasti dip'ed it in matte black, to get a bit more contrast on the bike.

I ride it brakeless since the first day, not to 'be cool', but I think I'm actually *safer* this way (both to me and others), because I am forced not to rely on them, so I need to be extra careful and 100% concentrated at all times and never even get close to dangerous situations. So far, seems to be working.

Parts are a nice mix of USA/Japan/UK: Sugino, Izumi, MKS, White Industries, Thomson, Brooks, MASH, Cane Creek, H+ Son, #AARN, Profile Racing, DT Swiss...

birdboy 11-16-2018 07:33 AM

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Originally Posted by ruario (Post 5926654)
FWIW, I also completely stopped using a smartphone two years ago and went back to a dumb phone. :p

+1 for dumb phones! :)

birdboy 11-16-2018 07:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lysander666 (Post 5926439)
Unless you have somewhere inside your block, or ideally inside your flat, to store it, it's hardly worth the bother. I had so many parts to my bike stolen when I used it regularly - the front light, the back like, the seat over, the saddle clamp - yes, some thieves actually removed the saddle, took the clamp from the frame and put the saddle back. Bizarre.

Yeah, mine is in the bedroom :D

When I'm out and about I rarely, if ever, leave it unmanned.

birdboy 11-16-2018 07:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ruario (Post 5926465)
Does a unicycle count? It is fixed wheel and doesn't get a lot simpler. I regularly commute via unicycle. I wrote a short blog post about it on my employers blog for "Cycle to Work Day":

https://vivaldi.com/blog/cycle-to-work-day/

This is great! Thanks for sharing.

I've never even tried it, must be lots of fun!

JWJones 11-16-2018 07:57 AM

Nope, I've got hills to climb. The bicycle has been my primary mode of transportation since I was 5 years old (I'm 52 now), and I commute to work by bike five days a week. The last leg of my ride coming home in the evening is a long-ish 15% grade hill. I would not want to do this on a fixed gear/single speed bike.

ruario 11-16-2018 11:51 AM

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Originally Posted by birdboy (Post 5926668)
I ride it brakeless since the first day, not to 'be cool', but I think I'm actually *safer* this way (both to me and others), because I am forced not to rely on them, so I need to be extra careful and 100% concentrated at all times and never even get close to dangerous situations. So far, seems to be working.

I'm not totally convinced by that. You may never make a mistake yourself but others (including animals or children) will in unpredictable ways with little notice. If you do spot a problem late, you simply cannot stop as fast as a brake with legs alone. Even if you could lock them instantly, you will skid as weight shifts to the front.

It is also good to have in case of a major failure (e.g. with the chain) or if you loose your footing (especially downhill). With the speeds capable of on a bike, a brake is essential IMHO.

I would add a single brake on the front. The front brake is always stronger and it'll be a short cable, so will not ruin the look.

Really nice looking bike by the way.

ruario 11-16-2018 11:55 AM

I should add that in the UK at least, two forms of braking are required to be street legal. I think many other places in the world have similar requirements. On a fixed wheel bike, the fact that you cannot freewheel counts as one from of braking, since you can slow down with your legs (similar to a back pedal brake) but you still need another one.

ondoho 11-16-2018 01:52 PM

I have been cycling as my main means of transportation for 30 years now (with some minor stretches when i also owned a car).
i have always bought cheap used bikes.
i have by now a good eye on what is sturdy and will keep me going for more than a year.
the only major, and by now obligatory, investment are puncture-safe tires.
they usually raise the bike's value by 100%.
i haven't had a puncture for over a year, at 20km a day, 5 days a week.
twice a year i take a cloth & brush, spanner and oil to the bike.
it just works.
i don't even need batteries for the lights because it's got an old-fashioned dynamo.

you would probably look down upon it.
and nobody'd bother stealing even the smallest part of it (i still lock it though).

it is one of my major pet peeves to see how cycling is becoming a fashion thing with so many people, as well as a competition. fixed-gear with no breaks, or 3000euro racing bike and 1000euro outfit, both obsessively polished? it's all the same to me.
fondling their precious treasure every saturday afternoon until it shines and glitters, ready to strut around for another week.

i want to get from A to B, burn some excess calories, and not carry my backpack on my back (hence the basket).

oh, and i use a hub gear (because i can't be bothered cleaning gears that are on the outside of the wheel) with - wait for it - three gears.

fatmac 11-16-2018 02:31 PM

I used to alternate between fixed & free on the same wheel. Years ago, I used to use one for touring, 100+ mile rides on a summer Sunday, good times. :)

Today, I still have a fixed/free bike as my main one, (with a hybrid for off road stuff).

Unfortunately, I have lost my fitness & no longer am cycling, but I keep them just in case I can get back into it, though it will be rides of a lot less miles. ;)

birdboy 11-16-2018 02:59 PM

Do not post while drunk.

birdboy 11-16-2018 03:21 PM

Do not post while drunk.

frankbell 11-16-2018 09:08 PM

I have a Fuji Sports 10 ten-speed which is older than any of my children and I love it to death. I got it used from the Urban Bike Project in Wilmington, Del., where I used to live.

However, I can say that here in Virginia Beach, one-speed bicycles (I learned recently that they are now known as "cruisers") are very popular.

cwizardone 11-16-2018 09:44 PM

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That goes back to the days of the Schwinn Cruiser.
Back in the 1950s, and, perhaps, in the decades before and since, Schwinn made a "Cruiser."
When I was about 12 my father took my brother and I to the Schwinn Bicycle Dealer, and, yes, it was on Main Street, and bought us both a "Paperboy Special." They took the "Cruiser" and put 1.75 inch tires on it, instead of the standard 2.125" tires, heavy duty rims and spokes, and a cast iron rack on the back. The idea was you threw your newspaper bags over the rack like a set of saddle bags. IIRC, mine was green and my brother's was red. Gawd, was that a long time ago!
IIRC, some of the Cruisers had a headlight mounted in the front fender.... hang on... I just remembered... One morning 3 or 4 years ago I was walking past the window of a local bike shop in the wee morning hours and spotted a "brand new" cruiser in the window... Let me see if I can find the photo....
OK, this was taken almost 4 years ago. The frame design is totally different from a "real" cruiser, but you get the idea from the balloon tires, full fenders, chain guard, etc., etc., etc.
The Cruisers also had a spring mounted at the top of the front fork that acted like a shock absorber.
In the '70s someone up the road in Marin County put a derailleur on a Cruiser and, as they say, the rest is history (birth of the mountain bike).

frankbell 11-16-2018 09:51 PM

I wondered where the "Cruiser" came from, as, when compared to my Fuji, they do anything but cruise. They pretty much lumber. But the terrain is flat here and the lumbering is easy.

I learned about the Urban Bike Project from Second Son (it really is a worthy project), who was volunteering there some years ago. I don't think the bicycles were the attraction, but there was this young lady volunteer . . . .

cwizardone 11-16-2018 10:16 PM

When I left the military and went back to college I went out and bought a French made Ten Speed and rode that thing just about everywhere and made numerous "improvements" (ha!) over they years. I still have it and even though I'm now a senior citizen, I still take it out for a ride every now and then.
The bike itself was under $100.00, but after I put one of those Swiss made book racks on it and bought a lock, the bill was still less than $110.00.
:)
Those were the days!
:D

ondoho 11-17-2018 01:49 AM

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Originally Posted by birdboy (Post 5926840)
... Lada Niva's etc.

now that actually made me chuckle a bit. why not take it one step further? :D

anyhow, a bike without gears, brakes or fenders - how can that be anything but a fad... :(

m.a.l.'s pa 11-17-2018 10:04 AM

I am not a Slackware user, but two of the three bikes I own are one-speed bikes. I've been commuting to work on bikes now for several years. My route to work is mostly flat, but the winds here can get kinda crazy, so on days when the winds are gonna be against me I take the bike that has gears. Unless I feel up to a work-out.

birdboy 11-17-2018 10:35 AM

Glad to see all the bike commuters here on LQ!

birdboy 11-17-2018 10:55 AM

Anyway, here's a slightly better link with sharper images and more detail that I just added.

Myk267 11-17-2018 11:55 AM

Never tried a fixie. I'm definitely afraid of not having disk brakes.

Quote:

Originally Posted by ruario (Post 5926465)
Does a unicycle count? It is fixed wheel and doesn't get a lot simpler. I regularly commute via unicycle. I wrote a short blog post about it on my employers blog for "Cycle to Work Day":

https://vivaldi.com/blog/cycle-to-work-day/

I'm ready to move after seeing that picture of that brick road.

cwizardone 11-17-2018 03:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ruario (Post 5926465)
Does a unicycle count? It is fixed wheel and doesn't get a lot simpler. I regularly commute via unicycle. I wrote a short blog post about it on my employers blog for "Cycle to Work Day":

https://vivaldi.com/blog/cycle-to-work-day/

Great article! Many Thanks.
And here I thought you were Norwegian.
Go Bergen!
:D

frankbell 11-17-2018 08:50 PM

I've never had a commute short enough to consider cycling to work, but I wouldn't commute on a bicycle if any major streets were involved. I don't trust American automobile drivers to see, let alone respect, bicyclers. Heck, they don't even respect other drivers. Some of them don't even respect themselves.

I offer as evidence this letter to editor of my local rag.

They printed this response yesterday.

cwizardone 11-17-2018 09:48 PM

Between the electric cars, that don't make any noise, and the idiots texting and/or using their cell/smartphones while they drive, it has become unsafe to ride a bicycle just about anywhere.
I don't know what it is going to take to get people to leave their phones alone while driving. The threat of a traffic ticket hasn't stopped them.
There are also other reasons it has become so dangerous, but to discuss it might get one accused of not being politically correct.
A couple of years ago while walking down the street I witnessed an accident. A woman started to walk across the street with the light. The person driving in the slow lane had come to a halt, but the person coming up behind the first car, decided to go around, changed to the fast lane, didn't even attempt to slow down, and hit the pedestrian in the crosswalk. Unfortunately, this sort of driving is not uncommon. Some drivers apparently can't or won't look pass the end of their hood.
I had to renew my license a few months ago and the whole thing has become a joke. The written test is now only 18 questions and, if you have to take the driving test, you are no longer required to parallel park. I asked the clerk why and she replied that so many people were failing the test they, the State, dropped the requirement that new drivers have to know how to park. Heck, they can't drive, so I guess it almost makes sense they don't need to know how to park. :(

ondoho 11-18-2018 04:07 AM

cycling is sufficiently safe in all the 2 countries i have lived in.

what i usually do:
find the shortest route between work and home for walking (with openstreetmap or some such).
this mostly does NOT involve the major roads.
then, as i drive every day, i start finding alternate routes that are just a few meters longer, but much nicer.
that's one of the major advantages of cycling - you are not dependent on main roads.
granted, the more rural and the longer the route, the more likely one is forced to use main roads.
nevertheless, it is safe in this country.

m.a.l.'s pa 11-18-2018 04:51 AM

Yeah -- I have a short commute and a fairly safe route here, but I wouldn't risk riding on major streets. I see far too many drivers using their phones while behind the wheel. And far too many discourteous, impatient drivers.

Where I live, it's kind of a tough climb on a one-speed bike if I head east towards the mountains. But the legs do get used to it, to a degree. None of my bikes are anything to brag about, and I certainly don't ride fast enough to impress anybody!

I've been going without owning a car even though I can afford one. It does help my savings account! I'm hoping that I'll be able to continue on like this for several more years.

Not enough bikes-only paths around here, but there are a few nice ones.

cwizardone 11-18-2018 10:49 AM

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Originally Posted by ondoho (Post 5927207)
cycling is sufficiently safe in all the 2 countries i have lived in.

what i usually do:
find the shortest route between work and home for walking (with openstreetmap or some such).
this mostly does NOT involve the major roads.
then, as i drive every day, i start finding alternate routes that are just a few meters longer, but much nicer.
that's one of the major advantages of cycling - you are not dependent on main roads.
granted, the more rural and the longer the route, the more likely one is forced to use main roads.
nevertheless, it is safe in this country.

When I was still a member of the workforce, the office was just 5 miles down the road. So, one Sunday I looked at the area on Google Earth and then got in the car and drove around to confirm a
"back street" route. That took me to a bridge and, fortunately, the local city and/or county had paid to install a pedestrian/bicycle bridge right beside the highway bridge. Nice of them. :)
From there on it was off road, but paved, bike paths the rest the way. Not a bad ride. It took about thirty minutes, but I only did it in good weather, which, around here, is most of the year. It only gets cold and rainy from late Fall through early Spring.
OTOH, had it been city streets the entire route, I wouldn't have bothered for reasons previously mentioned.

Which reminds me, yesterday I was walking through the parking lot at the local supermarket and one of those high end Tesla cars drove by. Nice looking vehicle, but it didn't make a sound, nothing. With all the other ambient noise you couldn't even hear its tires rolling on the pavement.

ChuangTzu 11-18-2018 05:50 PM

For the last 5+ years I've used a Schwinn Hybrid Mountain/City Bike. Its great for city/paved surfaces and can handle certain levels of gravel/sand/dirt paths as well. Some of you are very lucky being able to ride to work, unfortunately, I cannot do this, as one of my commutes is an average of 30 miles (each way). I am fortunate to live in an area with wonderful paved trails/paths, one trail is around 250 miles, the other is 26 miles (one way). :)

Long gone are the days of using fixed gear, too old and roads are too hilly. :)

dogpatch 11-18-2018 06:29 PM

Have been bicycling most of my adult life. My market run is only 3+ kilometers, easier to bike than to drive, so have never owned a car here. Same as when i lived in inner Chicago, commuting 7 miles to work took about 45 minutes one way, whether i drove, rode the city bus, or biked through Lincoln Park, so i sold the car.

As for fixed-speed, i actually preferred my old single speed bike. The coaster brake worked even when wet, unlike caliper brakes. Unfortunately, here in Nicaragua, haven't been able to find a single speed bike my size. Bought a used one for a young friend, but the rear bearing fell apart, and it was impossible to find a replacement. Too much of a specialty item anymore.

ruario 11-19-2018 12:45 AM

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Originally Posted by cwizardone (Post 5927107)
Great article! Many Thanks.
And here I thought you were Norwegian.
Go Bergen!
:D

I have a Norwegian last night name so that confuses people but that was acquired when I got married. Also Bergen? I live in Oslo and all the pictures in that article are from Oslo. :)

cwizardone 11-19-2018 01:26 AM

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Originally Posted by ruario (Post 5927550)
I have a Norwegian last night name so that confuses people but that was acquired when I got married. Also Bergen? I live in Oslo and all the pictures in that article are from Oslo. :)

This goes back many years, but I was once told there is a strong rivalry between the citizens of Oslo and Bergen, so I thought I would throw that in here. My odd sense of humor.
Go Bergen!
:D

ruario 11-19-2018 02:58 AM

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Originally Posted by cwizardone (Post 5927559)
This goes back many years, but I was once told there is a strong rivalry between the citizens of Oslo and Bergen, so I thought I would throw that in here. My odd sense of humor.
Go Bergen!
:D

Yeah, I don't think Bergen even got over losing capital status to Oslo. :p

And certainly Bergen still likes to consider itself a bit different. So much so that one of the big Norwegian newspapers (VG) has an advertising campaign at the moment that revolves around the idea that if Bergen ever leaves Norway, they would be the first to cover it. It's also allows them to play on Brexit by calling it Berxit. :)

https://tv.kampanje.com/vg-med-ellev...en-brexit-i-ny

ondoho 11-20-2018 03:10 AM

we in the capital area of finland are currently in the beautiful situation that it's free to take your bike into the metro.
[ and also busses btw, but only if there's enough space. you are very likely to have mothers with prams rivaling with you, and why i've never perceived a lack of space in the metro, in a bus it is problematic. ]
anyhow, even longer commutes are possible this way, by only partially biking them.

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Originally Posted by cwizardone (Post 5927339)
Which reminds me, yesterday I was walking through the parking lot at the local supermarket and one of those high end Tesla cars drove by. Nice looking vehicle, but it didn't make a sound, nothing. With all the other ambient noise you couldn't even hear its tires rolling on the pavement.

i have this problem as a cyclist, too.
people do not hear you.


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