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Old 08-03-2017, 05:48 PM   #1
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'To Protect Voting, Use Open-Source Software'


https://www.nytimes.com/2017/08/03/o...er-voting.html

An op-ed from Thursday's 'New York Times'
 
Old 08-03-2017, 08:12 PM   #2
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with the obfuscated nature of systemd open source will not help unless it's run on a systemd free O\S
 
Old 08-04-2017, 09:17 AM   #3
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"Open-source software" won't protect the integrity of election systems. You must have paper.

The State of Colorado, to much political fanfare, has mandated a procedure which is a drop-dead easy application of first-semester elementary statistics: a system of random sampling, of paper ballots, to achieve a sufficiently high statistical confidence-interval that the electronic vote tallies probably do match what all those pieces of paper would say if they were all to be hand-counted.

There must be a "hand-auditable record," independent of any electronic tabulations of the same. The opinion-writer is therefore putting out disinformation in his editorial, probably in an effort to save the vendors of all-electronic equipment, whose faces have rightly been soiled by what happened in the last election.
 
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In Britain, all our voting is done on paper. After the count in a General Election, the slips, counterfoils, and clerks' marked copies of the electoral register are put in a sack, sealed, and sent to a warehouse outside London, where they are kept for a year and a day, just in case an investigation is ever needed.
 
Old 08-04-2017, 01:47 PM   #5
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There must be a "hand-auditable record," independent of any electronic tabulations of the same. The opinion-writer is therefore putting out disinformation in his editorial
Seems like you didn't read the article, which actually agrees with you on this point...
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One post-2000 change — a useful one — was to move away from all-electronic touch-screen balloting, with no paper record indicating how someone voted. Nearly half of voters are registered in jurisdictions that use optical-scan systems that read marked paper ballots and tally the results. But one-quarter of voters still use direct-recording electronic voting machines, which produce no paper trail.
 
Old 08-04-2017, 08:42 PM   #6
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I have complained to no end about electronic voting. Sadly the old voting machines were not a lot better. Some districts can't run a vote. http://www.detroitnews.com/story/new...able/95007392/
 
Old 08-04-2017, 11:37 PM   #7
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Hacking voting machines takes center stage at DEFCON

DEFCON attendees were successful in hacking voting machines and now that there is proof the systems are insecure, more work needs to be done to change election laws and practices.

"Anyone who says they're un-hackable is either a fool or a liar."

*snip*

"This idea that's being perpetuated in the elections industry, whether it be government or vendors, that these are un-hackable machines because they don't touch the internet or voter registration databases that are un-hackable because they're air-gapped is just ridiculous. If you said something like that here, you'd be laughed at," (Jake) Braun told SearchSecurity in an interview at DEFCON."
http://searchsecurity.techtarget.com...tage-at-DEFCON
 
Old 08-05-2017, 08:36 AM   #8
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As I said, when the votes were challenged in certain precincts – by people who (still) could not accept that Hillary Lost™, it proved impossible(!) to audit those results, because no corroborating record of any kind existed.

As the State of Colorado demonstrated, using statistical techniques found in any elementary textbook, it is possible to determine the probable validity of the outcome using only a very small random sampling of the paper record. But it is impossible to do so if no such record exists.
 
  


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