Hi,

I hope someoen can help here, I have been searching for a solution for a week now, and have given up, so no doubt someone will give me a quick obvious answer and I can slap my head

Ok, so I have an FC5 system, all running fine and I want to upgrade to FC8. So, to minimize downtime while bringing up FC8 I bought another hard drive - a WDC Caviar SATA II to install FC8 on to - my existing HD is an IDE one.

FC5 recognises the SATA II drive quite happily (I can make a file system on it, mount it etc as /dev/sda1), but the FC8 installer just does not see it at all.

here is the lspci and lsmod output from FC5 with unrelated lines removed to save space:

00:00.0 Host bridge: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS] 661FX/M661FX/M661MX Host (rev 11)
00:01.0 PCI bridge: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS] SiS AGP Port (virtual PCI-to-PCI bridge)
00:02.0 ISA bridge: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS] SiS964 [MuTIOL Media IO] (rev 36)
00:02.5 IDE interface: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS] 5513 [IDE] (rev 01)
00:05.0 RAID bus controller: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS] RAID bus controller 180 SATA/PATA [SiS] (rev 01)


and lsmod

Module Size Used by
parport_pc 32428 1
lp 17153 0
parport 41993 2 parport_pc,lp
autofs4 26181 1
it87 24677 0
hwmon_vid 6849 1 it87
hwmon 7749 1 it87
i2c_isa 9665 1 it87
i2c_core 26817 2 it87,i2c_isa
rfcomm 46421 0
l2cap 32449 5 rfcomm
bluetooth 58149 4 rfcomm,l2cap
sunrpc 168421 1
ipt_REJECT 9793 1
xt_comment 6081 5
xt_state 6465 9
xt_tcpudp 7361 19
iptable_filter 7361 1
iptable_mangle 7105 0
iptable_nat 11973 0
ip_nat 22485 1 iptable_nat
ip_conntrack 58649 3 xt_state,iptable_nat,ip_nat
nfnetlink 11353 2 ip_nat,ip_conntrack
ip_tables 18069 3 iptable_filter,iptable_mangle,iptable_nat
x_tables 19525 6 ipt_REJECT,xt_comment,xt_state,xt_tcpudp,iptable_nat,ip_tables
video 21829 0
button 11089 0
battery 14789 0
ac 9157 0
ipv6 269761 26
ohci_hcd 26461 0
ehci_hcd 38221 0
snd_intel8x0 36957 0
snd_ac97_codec 99041 1 snd_intel8x0
snd_ac97_bus 6593 1 snd_ac97_codec
snd_seq_dummy 8133 0
snd_seq_oss 38565 0
snd_seq_midi_event 11841 1 snd_seq_oss
snd_seq 60845 5 snd_seq_dummy,snd_seq_oss,snd_seq_midi_event
snd_seq_device 13261 3 snd_seq_dummy,snd_seq_oss,snd_seq
snd_pcm_oss 44625 0
snd_mixer_oss 22465 1 snd_pcm_oss
snd_pcm 90309 3 snd_intel8x0,snd_ac97_codec,snd_pcm_oss
snd_timer 29381 2 snd_seq,snd_pcm
snd 60737 9 snd_intel8x0,snd_ac97_codec,snd_seq_oss,snd_seq,snd_seq_device,snd_pcm_oss,snd_mixer_oss,snd_pcm,snd _timer
soundcore 14241 1 snd
snd_page_alloc 15049 2 snd_intel8x0,snd_pcm
sis900 29121 0
mii 9793 1 sis900
floppy 65597 0
dm_snapshot 23021 0
dm_zero 6209 0
dm_mirror 27893 0
ext3 141769 2
jbd 65365 1 ext3
dm_mod 65365 6 dm_snapshot,dm_zero,dm_mirror
sata_sis 12101 0
libata 73937 1 sata_sis
sd_mod 25665 0
scsi_mod 143821 2 libata,sd_mod



So, I think I need to pass parameters to the linux installation of FC8 to get FC8 to recognise my SATA drive, but I havn't figured out what to pass. I have dried the generic-ide, pci=nomsi, but the installer still cannot see my SATA II drive. I have also tried just giving scsi_mod sata_sis libata and sd_mod as parameters to the FC8 installer too, but no luck.

Does anyone know what parameters I should be passing ?

Thanks for any help

Andy

How are the drive mention in you,re BIOS two of my HD are WD2500 WD Caviar 250 MB 16 MB SATA 2 Perfectly recognized by FEdora 8 So Fedora 8 should have know problem which it
That is why I like to know what you,re BIOS said about the drives

all the best

Hi,
Thanks for the response.

There is no mention of SATA at all in my bios - at least the part where I would press 'DEL' to enter it. But after the BIOS screen has gone away during boot up, I get a primary and secondary master text line, the primary one of which has my WD Caviar identified in it.

Thanks

Andy

What I mean when I press Del I come in the BIOS setup
One off the options is called boot
When I enter this options I get a few options again
1) First is boot sequence
2) Harddrives

The first option which device is first boot device second and so on

The hard drives options already told me that had 3 drives 2 WDD and 1 Seagate all the 3 drives are there with all the specifation
My drives are connected with sata ports 1 to 3
And what I am wondering about is, is this also in you,re case ?
Because that might be the problem
IN this case FEdora 8 and all my distro recognized it correctly


all the best

Hi,

Thanks for the reply.

In my BIOS, under the Hard Drives option, I only have my IDE HDD and IDE DVD drive listed.

The only place whre SATA is mentioned is not in this BIOS, but durning boot up after the "press del to enter setup" message. Where I get a SATA primary and secondary master message, the primary master being the caviar drive.

I would have expected to have seen SATA info in the BIOS, but this is not the case. It is a phoenix award bios on a foxconn motherboard - 2 years old if thats any help.

Thanks for the help

Andy

It should any how listed you,re second drive under the hard drive option
How do you connect you,re sata drive to you,re mobo to the sata port ore under ide (flat cable) ?because both is possible
If done with a flat cable it is acting like a standard IDE but it should be listed
In my opinion the first problem to be solved is to get it listed

all the best

Hi,

I connected the drive with the SATA cable into the SATA socket in the mother board (I have tried both sockets that are there - same result) and SATA power cable that came with the MB, I have not used a SATA->IDE converter.

I'm sure it must be some boot parameter - FC5 can use the SATA drive with no problems at all and I did a double check and windows can find the drive quite happily too, so it only appears to be a problem with FC8's installer.

Thanks

Andy

Oke I use Fedora 8 using Anaconda 11.3.0.50 it was in the first place the Gnome version later on I also download KDE
It was for me not necessary to change any thing
I just check it when I comes to point where I had to decide where to install it shows my all my drives
Fedora 8 in my case is installed on sdb and boot from sdb grub is also on sdb I just change the boot order in the BIOS to
change OS so in you,re case it is not possible to do so if you wish to do so.
So it might be possible you use a other version of Anaconda or that you,re BIOS treated the SATA drives in a different way than mine , but I also remember when my supplier put my extra drives in it was in my home , the first thing he said after putting drives in the box was oke before I close the box let first check if the BIOS recognize all you,re drives and it did so it might be possible that you must do some thing to get it done.


all the best

It is a long shot you use a IDE I think you,re IDE is master drive.
So windows is already installed and just see a data drive and so do FC5
But FC8 is looking for boot able drive my drive are all boot able that might be the answer all my drives are sata\

all the best

Heya,

Thanks again for the reply.

Thing is, I have tried disconnecting both the IDE HD and the IDE DVD drive, so the only connected drive is the SATA drive, in that situation, FC8 again sees no drives at all - removing IDE from the equation.

I will try and download knoppix overnight and maybe debian (excuse spelling), im sure it must be possible to put FC8 on this, as my FC5 can see the SATA HD with no problems. I feel it must be anaconda not having all the drivers for SATA stuff (thought my base unit is over 2 years old, hmm)

I'm sure if I got a SATA->IDE connector all would be fine, but I'm determined to make it work, if FC5 is happy, it must be possible to make FC8 work (he says :P)

Thanks again

Andy