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Old 03-24-2011, 05:22 AM   #1
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Question which one f14,centos 5.5, sl-60, opentu ?


hi all, if i need a production version (25% production, 75% R&D)and need to use virtuality (AMD Phenom X6, 12G RAM, 1.5T + 1.5T HDD, DVDRW+, 2 x 1Gb ethernet etc.)
what should i use ??? have tried fedora 12 - 14 with pasik installing tutorials (good document but problems with compiling/linking --> unusable), CentOS 5.5 with xen 3.3.* somewhat working, newer xen 3* too buggy, now testing with Xen 4.0.2 on OpenSUSE 11.4 (not sure if works too slowly), going to test SL-60 (scientific linux)...
really being 'jumping off the road map' so ANY good advvice, opinions, links ANYTHING, brgds wjuhis
 
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Honestly, the final decision is up to you. I don't know why a lot of people ask for advice when it is the user that has to decide on what to use. But to be completely honest, I use Fedora, and I have jumped through hoops to get my system the way I want it, and I am happy with what I have. It just takes trial and error..... But to get more in depth with your thread - What all do you want to do within the distro of your choice?
 
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Old 03-26-2011, 05:15 AM   #3
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Honestly, the final decision is up to you. I don't know why a lot of people ask for advice when it is the user that has to decide on what to use. But to be completely honest, I use Fedora, and I have jumped through hoops to get my system the way I want it, and I am happy with what I have. It just takes trial and error..... But to get more in depth with your thread - What all do you want to do within the distro of your choice?
i have several pc's one of them being this AMD X6 12,5GB 'monster'... by mentioning that 25% of production usage i meant that that much of the capacity will be used by my students; i'm working as an ict lecturer BUT also have a consulting: sw/hw -company for R&D purposes and thus simultaneous os environments are needed (there aren't too many gpl licensed sdk's working on newer windows builds, mostly <= xp)... and furthermore i need several os environments for educational testing purposes... i naturally have hw capacity 'at the mill' but it is kind of heavy to manipulate and always needs administrational bureaucracy definitions to get something changed...
looking forward to hearing from you soon, brgds wjuhis (its actually juhis from juha = john in finnish) ;-)

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Old 03-26-2011, 05:18 AM   #4
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In that case, head over to distrowatch.com. You can view and check out all of the distros on record and get a good glimpse of all of them.
 
Old 03-26-2011, 05:20 AM   #5
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Honestly, the final decision is up to you. I don't know why a lot of people ask for advice when it is the user that has to decide on what to use. But to be completely honest, I use Fedora, and I have jumped through hoops to get my system the way I want it, and I am happy with what I have. It just takes trial and error..... But to get more in depth with your thread - What all do you want to do within the distro of your choice?
i forgot: have been a red hat / fedora enthusiast since rh3...
 
Old 03-26-2011, 05:23 AM   #6
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i forgot: have been a red hat / fedora enthusiast since rh3...
Oh you have? Well sh*t.... Install Fedora then and stay on the bleeding edge
 
Old 03-26-2011, 05:27 AM   #7
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Based on your description, I would select a distro known for stability that
has a long life cycle. You could also install VirtualBox or use xen for any
particular project that requires features not available in your base OS.

You mention using xen with mixed results. Is there some reason you need to
use xen? There are several other virtualization methods. I generally
recommend to start with VirtualBox since it has a lot of great features
and it is easy to set up and use.
 
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I recommend Virtual Box also. And as far as stability and a good life cycle, you can try out Ubuntu 10.04 LTS. LTS stands for long term support....
 
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Cool ... kind of fancy...

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Based on your description, I would select a distro known for stability that
has a long life cycle. You could also install VirtualBox or use xen for any
particular project that requires features not available in your base OS.

You mention using xen with mixed results. Is there some reason you need to
use xen? There are several other virtualization methods. I generally
recommend to start with VirtualBox since it has a lot of great features
and it is easy to set up and use.
i've kind of got 'familiar' with it having fought with it since sept -10...
 
Old 03-26-2011, 06:20 AM   #10
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Smile ... +++ and --- of virtualbox usage vs xen systems ???

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I recommend Virtual Box also. And as far as stability and a good life cycle, you can try out Ubuntu 10.04 LTS. LTS stands for long term support....
pros and cons ???
 
Old 03-26-2011, 06:24 AM   #11
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Honestly, I have no experience with Xen. Virtual Box has never given me ANY problems whatsoever, ever!
 
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Pros and cons?

VirtualBox has a lot of great features and it is easy to set up and use.

xen doesn't have some of the great features and it is harder to set up and use.

Of course you could easily search for more info about them if you want more
details. As I think, you haven't really said why you want to run virtualization.
You'd want to select a tool based on the job.
 
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Old 03-26-2011, 06:28 AM   #13
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Smile ... have heard the same expression...

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Oh you have? Well sh*t.... Install Fedora then and stay on the bleeding edge
1) the bleeding edge: does it refer to the "too-fast-next-version-generator-club" thus generating a new fedora version is more interesting/challenging than getting the older versions stabile and error free ???

2) if i keep the f-line: which f ==> 12,13 or 14 or even some older release ???

3) any idea about response times depending on usage of virtualisation system

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To answer about Fedora, that one is up to you. I like Fedora just because.... I never had a problem with it overall in general, and it is fast paced, just like I am. Fedora 15 is being currently worked on as we speak..... If you want to go that route, I would recommend installing Fedora 14. I am using 13 right now, and once 15 comes out, that's when I will upgrade to 14.
 
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Smile fully virtualized hvm xp possible ?

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Pros and cons?

VirtualBox has a lot of great features and it is easy to set up and use.

xen doesn't have some of the great features and it is harder to set up and use.

Of course you could easily search for more info about them if you want more
details. As I think, you haven't really said why you want to run virtualization.
You'd want to select a tool based on the job.
hi, is this ok: fully virtualized hvm xp possible ? +

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