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Old 01-10-2007, 08:26 AM   #1
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Could I update a fedora core 1 install to the latest release without downloading the isos? I have problems booting the latest fedora core before and I don't want to download GBs worth of data. So, is it possible to apt, yum, or upgrade to fedora core 5-6 files using fedora core 1?

And also, what other mp3 player is being used aside from xmms? I don't want to use an rpm from 3rd parties, just the official rpms from the fedora repository.
 
Old 01-10-2007, 09:37 AM   #2
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Media (like mp3) players are actually backends like Xine, GStreamer, XMMS or MPlayer. Those have then separate frontends (apart from XMMS, I haven't heard it would have) like Kaffeine, Totem, Mplayer-gui (was it called that?) etc. The most favoured ones are, in addition to XMMS, Xine and GStreamer, and probably the easier way is to have Xine plus some plugin for it, for example Kaffeine or Totem depending on whether you use KDE or Gnome, which suits you better.

About the install...well, theoretically it's possible to update from 1 to 2, then from 2 to 3, then from 3 to 4 and so on, using yum for example, but there are some drawbacks and problems (I'm not so positive of trying to update from 1 to 5 or 6 right away); usually using this upgrade method breaks some things up that you have to fix manually (if you find them), and generally it's more clever to get the install discs and do the upgrade from there, then at least every needed package should be in place. More preferrable is to do a clean upgrade, install the new Fedora over your existing system; if you do this, however, make sure you either backup all your personal data off the harddisk or have a separate /home that you don't format.

You could try and locate instructions on how you change the yum reposities to newer ones, and then upgrade and possibly do some other tricks as well, but if you want to stay out of bigger trouble and not spend next four months wondering why half of your programs and config files are broken, along with a load of dependency problems yum can't figure out itself, just download the install discs. You can order them too, and I don't think it's that expensive compared to how much it eases your work.

I have upgraded once from 4 -> 5 and later from 5 -> 6, the machine works still all right, but I did have some problems with certain packages during the updates and at the moment, after the last upgrade, no video or audio formats are playable because the engine used to play them, Xine, broke up during the update (can't locate some library files, and the ones I installed manually don't seem to satisfy it). It's still under work what went wrong, but I'm sure a clean install would have been better. For your information, upgrade from 4 to 5 was made using yum, and upgrade from 5 to 6 using install disc.

Also keep in mind that if you planned to upgrade using yum or similar, you will be downloading about all the packages from the web for the upgrade that you would download anyway in the install disc set. The upgrade upgrades probably nearly every package on your system, so even if you hadn't installed everything from the original install discs of Core 1, you probably do download gigabytes of data anyway. It's easier to control if you download and burn the isos. And since every distribution version is usually so new that files may have been linked against newer compilers etc., you really do want to do a clean install if you like stable systems.

EDIT: if it was problem-free, there would be no "distribution versions" like core 5 and core 6, there would only be one distribution that would release install discs by date once in a while and users would never need to upgrade to bigger version numbers, just upgrade packages from the web. Fact is, new distribution version has a lot of completely new stuff, probably set up in a different way, so it's not going to work well. Upgrades from the web are minor upgrades, security and bug fixes etc., but a new version of the distribution is always a completely new pack (at least if people are working on it, rather than playing around).

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