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rmknox 01-25-2013 08:19 PM
Unable to complete boot 3.7.3-101.fc17.i686
 
did yum update today and got a new kernel 3.7.3-101.fc17.i686
it boots - gets to the point where the graphical system should come up - and hangs
FYI: I have my system set so I can see the startup (eliminated 2 parameters in the grub config file)

Booting 3.7.3 leaves behind a condition where my prior version 3.6.11-5.fc17.i686 also hanges without the graphical system coming up

If I boot 3.7.3 to level 1 and then init 5 the graphical system does not come up

if I boot 3.6.11 to level 1 and init 5 the graphical system does come up and heals the problem - thus allowing me to boot it again. - that's how I got here. Once the system is "healed" 3.6.11 does a full startup but when I try 3.7.3 the problem comes back.

Thus i need to tell grub to boot 3.6.11 (or set default in the cmd file).

I have a nvidia adapter.

Suggestions?

[knox@knox ~]$ sudo yum history info 501
Loaded plugins: auto-update-debuginfo, presto, refresh-packagekit
Transaction ID : 501
Begin time : Fri Jan 25 13:15:17 2013
Begin rpmdb : 2493:88bdc53fcc553ab4a707674dd85e14e20d10bafd
End time : 13:20:49 2013 (5 minutes)
End rpmdb : 2492:5c21ea2824f1c40794806e789b894d5fe167cd8b
User : richard knox <knox>
Return-Code : Success
Command Line : update
Transaction performed with:
Installed rpm-4.9.1.3-7.fc17.i686 @anaconda-0
Installed yum-3.4.3-30.fc17.noarch @anaconda-0
Installed yum-metadata-parser-1.1.4-6.fc17.i686 @anaconda-0
Installed yum-plugin-auto-update-debug-info-1.1.31-4.fc17.noarch @anaconda-0
Installed yum-presto-0.7.3-1.fc17.noarch @anaconda-0
Packages Altered:
Updated ecj-1:3.4.2-13.fc17.i686 @anaconda-0
Update 1:4.2.1-2.fc17.i686 @updates
Updated fedora-release-17-1.noarch @anaconda-0
Update 17-2.noarch @updates
Erase kernel-3.6.10-2.fc17.i686 @updates
Install kernel-3.7.3-101.fc17.i686 @updates
Updated kernel-debuginfo-3.6.11-5.fc17.i686 @updates-debuginfo
Update 3.7.3-101.fc17.i686 @updates-debuginfo
Updated kernel-debuginfo-common-i686-3.6.11-5.fc17.i686 @updates-debuginfo
Update 3.7.3-101.fc17.i686 @updates-debuginfo
Erase kernel-devel-3.6.10-2.fc17.i686 @updates
Install kernel-devel-3.7.3-101.fc17.i686 @updates
Updated kernel-headers-3.6.11-5.fc17.i686 @updates
Update 3.7.3-101.fc17.i686 @updates
Updated kernel-tools-3.6.11-5.fc17.i686 @updates
Update 3.7.3-101.fc17.i686 @updates
Updated kernel-tools-libs-3.6.11-5.fc17.i686 @updates
Update 3.7.3-101.fc17.i686 @updates
Erase kmod-nvidia-3.6.10-2.fc17.i686-1:304.64-1.fc17.5.i686 @rpmfusion-nonfree-updates
Updated python-httplib2-0.7.4-6.fc17.noarch @anaconda-0
Update 0.7.7-1.fc17.noarch @updates
Scriptlet output:
1 grubby fatal error: unable to find a suitable template
history info
[knox@knox ~]$

John VV 01-25-2013 08:36 PM
well the yum history says it all

Quote:
Erase kmod-nvidia-3.6.10-2.fc17.i686-1:304.64-1.fc17.5.i686 @rpmfusion-nonfree-updates
you uninstalled the nvidia driver and did NOT install the new/updated one
you have no graphics driver installed

the kmod-nvidia driver may be 1 to 3 days behind the matching kernel

syg00 01-25-2013 09:16 PM
Maybe have a look at the akmod - but there may still be a lag in availability.

rmknox 01-25-2013 09:47 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by John VV (Post 4877717)
well the yum history says it all


you uninstalled the nvidia driver and did NOT install the new/updated one
you have no graphics driver installed

the kmod-nvidia driver may be 1 to 3 days behind the matching kernel
John - thanks - but how do we explain why 3.6.11 runs ok?

I suspect that the 3.6.10 nvidia that was removed was for the 3.6.10 kernel that was removed?

3.6.11 finds a driver and I'm up and running on it at this moment

additional clue
the problem appears to involve the file that identifies the users on the system
When i "healed" the problem by booting to 3.6.11 to level 1 and then init 5 and then shutdown - the next time that i started 3.6.11 it presented CVS user first, whereas normally it merely gives me knox.

heres what booting 3.6.11 says about the nvidia driver in use at the moment

[knox@knox ~]$ dmesg | grep -i 304.64
[ 14.486192] NVRM: loading NVIDIA UNIX x86 Kernel Module 304.64 Tue Oct 30 11:09:29 PDT 2012
[knox@knox ~]$

and here's what locate sez about nvidia

[knox@knox ~]$
[knox@knox ~]$ locate nvidia
/etc/OpenCL/vendors/nvidia.icd
/etc/X11/nvidia-xorg.conf
/etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/00-nvidia.conf
/etc/ld.so.conf.d/nvidia-lib.conf
/home/knox/.nvidia-settings-rc
/home/knox/linux-2.6.33.1/drivers/char/agp/nvidia-agp.c
/home/knox/linux-2.6.33.1/drivers/video/nvidia
/home/knox/linux-2.6.33.1/drivers/video/backlight/mbp_nvidia_bl.c
/home/knox/linux-2.6.33.1/drivers/video/nvidia/Makefile
/home/knox/linux-2.6.33.1/drivers/video/nvidia/nv_accel.c
/home/knox/linux-2.6.33.1/drivers/video/nvidia/nv_backlight.c
/home/knox/linux-2.6.33.1/drivers/video/nvidia/nv_dma.h
/home/knox/linux-2.6.33.1/drivers/video/nvidia/nv_hw.c
/home/knox/linux-2.6.33.1/drivers/video/nvidia/nv_i2c.c
/home/knox/linux-2.6.33.1/drivers/video/nvidia/nv_local.h
/home/knox/linux-2.6.33.1/drivers/video/nvidia/nv_of.c
/home/knox/linux-2.6.33.1/drivers/video/nvidia/nv_proto.h
/home/knox/linux-2.6.33.1/drivers/video/nvidia/nv_setup.c
/home/knox/linux-2.6.33.1/drivers/video/nvidia/nv_type.h
/home/knox/linux-2.6.33.1/drivers/video/nvidia/nvidia.c
/usr/bin/nvidia-bug-report.sh
/usr/bin/nvidia-cuda-proxy-control
/usr/bin/nvidia-cuda-proxy-server
/usr/bin/nvidia-settings
/usr/bin/nvidia-smi
/usr/lib/nvidia
/usr/lib/directfb-1.5-0/gfxdrivers/libdirectfb_nvidia.so
/usr/lib/modules/3.6.10-2.fc17.i686/extra/nvidia
/usr/lib/modules/3.6.11-1.fc17.i686/extra/nvidia
/usr/lib/modules/3.6.11-1.fc17.i686/extra/nvidia/nvidia.ko
/usr/lib/modules/3.6.11-1.fc17.i686/kernel/drivers/net/ethernet/nvidia
/usr/lib/modules/3.6.11-1.fc17.i686/kernel/drivers/net/ethernet/nvidia/forcedeth.ko
/usr/lib/modules/3.6.11-5.fc17.i686/extra/nvidia
/usr/lib/modules/3.6.11-5.fc17.i686/extra/nvidia/nvidia.ko
/usr/lib/modules/3.6.11-5.fc17.i686/kernel/drivers/net/ethernet/nvidia
/usr/lib/modules/3.6.11-5.fc17.i686/kernel/drivers/net/ethernet/nvidia/forcedeth.ko
/usr/lib/nvidia/libGL.so.1
/usr/lib/nvidia/libGL.so.304.64
/usr/lib/nvidia/libOpenCL.so.1
/usr/lib/nvidia/libOpenCL.so.1.0.0
/usr/lib/nvidia/libXvMCNVIDIA.so.1
/usr/lib/nvidia/libXvMCNVIDIA.so.304.64
/usr/lib/nvidia/libXvMCNVIDIA_dynamic.so.1
/usr/lib/nvidia/libcuda.so
/usr/lib/nvidia/libcuda.so.1
/usr/lib/nvidia/libcuda.so.304.64
/usr/lib/nvidia/libnvcuvid.so.1
/usr/lib/nvidia/libnvcuvid.so.304.64
/usr/lib/nvidia/libnvidia-cfg.so.1
/usr/lib/nvidia/libnvidia-cfg.so.304.64
/usr/lib/nvidia/libnvidia-compiler.so.1
/usr/lib/nvidia/libnvidia-compiler.so.304.64
/usr/lib/nvidia/libnvidia-glcore.so
/usr/lib/nvidia/libnvidia-glcore.so.1
/usr/lib/nvidia/libnvidia-glcore.so.304.64
/usr/lib/nvidia/libnvidia-ml.so.1
/usr/lib/nvidia/libnvidia-ml.so.304.64
/usr/lib/nvidia/libnvidia-opencl.so.1
/usr/lib/nvidia/libnvidia-opencl.so.304.64
/usr/lib/nvidia/libnvidia-tls.so.1
/usr/lib/nvidia/libnvidia-tls.so.304.64
/usr/lib/nvidia/tls
/usr/lib/nvidia/xorg
/usr/lib/nvidia/tls/libnvidia-tls.so
/usr/lib/nvidia/tls/libnvidia-tls.so.1
/usr/lib/nvidia/tls/libnvidia-tls.so.304.64
/usr/lib/nvidia/xorg/libglx.so
/usr/lib/nvidia/xorg/libglx.so.1
/usr/lib/nvidia/xorg/libglx.so.304.64
/usr/lib/nvidia/xorg/libnvidia-wfb.so
/usr/lib/nvidia/xorg/libnvidia-wfb.so.1
/usr/lib/nvidia/xorg/libnvidia-wfb.so.304.64
/usr/lib/vdpau/libvdpau_nvidia.so
/usr/lib/vdpau/libvdpau_nvidia.so.1
/usr/lib/vdpau/libvdpau_nvidia.so.304.64
/usr/lib/xine/plugins/1.30/vidix/nvidia_vid.so
/usr/lib/xorg/modules/nvidia-304.64
/usr/lib/xorg/modules/drivers/nvidia_drv.so
/usr/sbin/nvidia-xconfig
/usr/share/applications/nvidia-settings.desktop
/usr/share/doc/nvidia-settings-1.0
/usr/share/doc/nvidia-xconfig-1.0
/usr/share/doc/xorg-x11-drv-nvidia-304.64
/usr/share/doc/nvidia-settings-1.0/FRAMELOCK.txt
/usr/share/doc/nvidia-settings-1.0/NV-CONTROL-API.txt
/usr/share/doc/nvidia-xconfig-1.0/COPYING
/usr/share/doc/xorg-x11-drv-nvidia-304.64/LICENSE
/usr/share/doc/xorg-x11-drv-nvidia-304.64/NVIDIA_Changelog
/usr/share/doc/xorg-x11-drv-nvidia-304.64/README.Fedora
/usr/share/doc/xorg-x11-drv-nvidia-304.64/README.txt
/usr/share/doc/xorg-x11-drv-nvidia-304.64/html
/usr/share/doc/xorg-x11-drv-nvidia-304.64/html/acknowledgements.html
/usr/share/doc/xorg-x11-drv-nvidia-304.64/html/addtlresources.html
/usr/share/doc/xorg-x11-drv-nvidia-304.64/html/appendices.html
/usr/share/doc/xorg-x11-drv-nvidia-304.64/html/audiosupport.html
/usr/share/doc/xorg-x11-drv-nvidia-304.64/html/commonproblems.html
/usr/share/doc/xorg-x11-drv-nvidia-304.64/html/configlaptop.html
/usr/share/doc/xorg-x11-drv-nvidia-304.64/html/configmultxscreens.html
/usr/share/doc/xorg-x11-drv-nvidia-304.64/html/configtvout.html
/usr/share/doc/xorg-x11-drv-nvidia-304.64/html/configtwinview.html
/usr/share/doc/xorg-x11-drv-nvidia-304.64/html/configuringagp.html
/usr/share/doc/xorg-x11-drv-nvidia-304.64/html/depth30.html
/usr/share/doc/xorg-x11-drv-nvidia-304.64/html/displaydevicenames.html
/usr/share/doc/xorg-x11-drv-nvidia-304.64/html/dma_issues.html
/usr/share/doc/xorg-x11-drv-nvidia-304.64/html/dpi.html
/usr/share/doc/xorg-x11-drv-nvidia-304.64/html/editxconfig.html
/usr/share/doc/xorg-x11-drv-nvidia-304.64/html/faq.html
/usr/share/doc/xorg-x11-drv-nvidia-304.64/html/flippingubb.html
/usr/share/doc/xorg-x11-drv-nvidia-304.64/html/framelock.html
/usr/share/doc/xorg-x11-drv-nvidia-304.64/html/glxsupport.html
/usr/share/doc/xorg-x11-drv-nvidia-304.64/html/i2c.html
/usr/share/doc/xorg-x11-drv-nvidia-304.64/html/index.html
/usr/share/doc/xorg-x11-drv-nvidia-304.64/html/installationandconfiguration.html
/usr/share/doc/xorg-x11-drv-nvidia-304.64/html/installdriver.html
/usr/share/doc/xorg-x11-drv-nvidia-304.64/html/installedcomponents.html
/usr/share/doc/xorg-x11-drv-nvidia-304.64/html/introduction.html
/usr/share/doc/xorg-x11-drv-nvidia-304.64/html/knownissues.html
/usr/share/doc/xorg-x11-drv-nvidia-304.64/html/minimumrequirements.html
/usr/share/doc/xorg-x11-drv-nvidia-304.64/html/newusertips.html
/usr/share/doc/xorg-x11-drv-nvidia-304.64/html/nvidia-debugdump.html
/usr/share/doc/xorg-x11-drv-nvidia-304.64/html/nvidia-ml.html
/usr/share/doc/xorg-x11-drv-nvidia-304.64/html/nvidia-smi.html
/usr/share/doc/xorg-x11-drv-nvidia-304.64/html/nvidiasettings.html
/usr/share/doc/xorg-x11-drv-nvidia-304.64/html/openglenvvariables.html
/usr/share/doc/xorg-x11-drv-nvidia-304.64/html/optimus.html
/usr/share/doc/xorg-x11-drv-nvidia-304.64/html/powermanagement.html
/usr/share/doc/xorg-x11-drv-nvidia-304.64/html/procinterface.html
/usr/share/doc/xorg-x11-drv-nvidia-304.64/html/programmingmodes.html
/usr/share/doc/xorg-x11-drv-nvidia-304.64/html/sdi.html
/usr/share/doc/xorg-x11-drv-nvidia-304.64/html/selectdriver.html
/usr/share/doc/xorg-x11-drv-nvidia-304.64/html/sli.html
/usr/share/doc/xorg-x11-drv-nvidia-304.64/html/supportedchips.html
/usr/share/doc/xorg-x11-drv-nvidia-304.64/html/vdpausupport.html
/usr/share/doc/xorg-x11-drv-nvidia-304.64/html/xcompositeextension.html
/usr/share/doc/xorg-x11-drv-nvidia-304.64/html/xconfigoptions.html
/usr/share/doc/xorg-x11-drv-nvidia-304.64/html/xineramaglx.html
/usr/share/doc/xorg-x11-drv-nvidia-304.64/html/xrandrextension.html
/usr/share/doc/xorg-x11-drv-nvidia-304.64/html/xvmcsupport.html
/usr/share/hal/fdi/information/10freedesktop/21-video-quirk-nvidia.fdi
/usr/share/man/man1/nvidia-cuda-proxy-control.1.gz
/usr/share/man/man1/nvidia-settings.1.gz
/usr/share/man/man1/nvidia-smi.1.gz
/usr/share/man/man1/nvidia-xconfig.1.gz
/usr/share/pixmaps/nvidia-settings.png
/usr/src/akmods/nvidia-kmod-304.64-1.fc17.src.rpm
/usr/src/akmods/nvidia-kmod.latest
/usr/src/kernels/3.6.11-1.fc17.i686/drivers/net/ethernet/nvidia
/usr/src/kernels/3.6.11-1.fc17.i686/drivers/net/ethernet/nvidia/Kconfig
/usr/src/kernels/3.6.11-1.fc17.i686/drivers/net/ethernet/nvidia/Makefile
/usr/src/kernels/3.6.11-1.fc17.i686/drivers/video/nvidia
/usr/src/kernels/3.6.11-1.fc17.i686/drivers/video/nvidia/Makefile
/usr/src/kernels/3.6.11-1.fc17.i686/include/config/agp/nvidia.h
/usr/src/kernels/3.6.11-1.fc17.i686/include/config/net/vendor/nvidia.h
/usr/src/kernels/3.6.11-5.fc17.i686/drivers/net/ethernet/nvidia
/usr/src/kernels/3.6.11-5.fc17.i686/drivers/net/ethernet/nvidia/Kconfig
/usr/src/kernels/3.6.11-5.fc17.i686/drivers/net/ethernet/nvidia/Makefile
/usr/src/kernels/3.6.11-5.fc17.i686/drivers/video/nvidia
/usr/src/kernels/3.6.11-5.fc17.i686/drivers/video/nvidia/Makefile
/usr/src/kernels/3.6.11-5.fc17.i686/include/config/agp/nvidia.h
/usr/src/kernels/3.6.11-5.fc17.i686/include/config/net/vendor/nvidia.h
/var/cache/abrt-di/usr/lib/debug/lib/modules/2.6.35.6-45.fc14.i686.debug/kernel/drivers/video/nvidia
/var/cache/abrt-di/usr/lib/debug/lib/modules/2.6.35.6-45.fc14.i686.debug/kernel/drivers/video/backlight/mbp_nvidia_bl.ko.debug
/var/cache/abrt-di/usr/lib/debug/lib/modules/2.6.35.6-45.fc14.i686.debug/kernel/drivers/video/nvidia/nvidiafb.ko.debug
/var/cache/akmods/nvidia
/var/cache/akmods/nvidia/.last.log
/var/cache/akmods/nvidia/304.37-1-for-3.4.11-1.fc16.i686.log
/var/cache/akmods/nvidia/304.37-1-for-3.6.6-1.fc16.i686.failed.log
/var/cache/akmods/nvidia/304.60-1.2-for-3.4.11-1.fc16.i686.log
/var/cache/akmods/nvidia/304.60-1.2-for-3.6.6-1.fc16.i686.log
/var/cache/akmods/nvidia/304.64-1-for-3.6.10-2.fc17.i686.log
/var/cache/akmods/nvidia/304.64-1-for-3.6.11-1.fc17.i686.log
/var/cache/akmods/nvidia/304.64-1-for-3.6.11-5.fc17.i686.log
/var/cache/akmods/nvidia/304.64-1-for-3.6.6-1.fc16.i686.log
/var/cache/akmods/nvidia/304.64-1-for-3.6.7-4.fc16.i686.log
/var/cache/akmods/nvidia/304.64-1-for-3.6.9-2.fc17.i686.log
/var/cache/akmods/nvidia/kmod-nvidia-3.4.11-1.fc16.i686-304.37-1.fc16.i686.rpm
/var/cache/akmods/nvidia/kmod-nvidia-3.4.11-1.fc16.i686-304.60-1.fc16.2.i686.rpm
/var/cache/akmods/nvidia/kmod-nvidia-3.6.10-2.fc17.i686-304.64-1.fc17.i686.rpm
/var/cache/akmods/nvidia/kmod-nvidia-3.6.11-1.fc17.i686-304.64-1.fc17.i686.rpm
/var/cache/akmods/nvidia/kmod-nvidia-3.6.11-5.fc17.i686-304.64-1.fc17.i686.rpm
/var/cache/akmods/nvidia/kmod-nvidia-3.6.6-1.fc16.i686-304.60-1.fc16.2.i686.rpm
/var/cache/akmods/nvidia/kmod-nvidia-3.6.6-1.fc16.i686-304.64-1.fc16.i686.rpm
/var/cache/akmods/nvidia/kmod-nvidia-3.6.7-4.fc16.i686-304.64-1.fc16.i686.rpm
/var/cache/akmods/nvidia/kmod-nvidia-3.6.9-2.fc17.i686-304.64-1.fc17.i686.rpm
[knox@knox ~]$

rmknox 01-25-2013 09:55 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by syg00 (Post 4877735)
Maybe have a look at the akmod - but there may still be a lag in availability.
John

ahha - maybe this kernel needs a nvidia driver that has not come yet? that happened to me once before. I'll keep on the lookout for one.

This is so stupid - they wouldn't let me use f16 in regular mode because their nouveau driver didn't support my video card, so i got the nvidia driver, but now they dont really support my system because i'm using an outside driver!!

but its fun and I look forward to my updates every day like a kid looks forward to Christmas and it keeps me on my toes - I'm not complaining

John VV 01-26-2013 12:26 AM
for a long time now the kmod AND the kernel ( they HAVE TO MATCH !!! ) came out together

but , that was not always the case .
in the early years of fedora there could be 1 to 14 days delay .
it got SO BAD that i would NEVER update the kernel , i would remove it from the update .
Then update the kmod and let that grab the kernel as a prerequisite

have a look at the akmod-nvidia
the akmod builds the driver automatically if the kernel changes

or
use the .run
but the .run has a lot of manual things YOU have to do

like manually rerunning the .run to reinstall it for EVERY kernel,x11/xorg update

and the .run
Warning:
changes the <GL.h> header and the "libGL.so" from the fedora DEFAULT measGL
but it dose NOT change ALL of mesa so you can have a problem with openGL2 &3 programs if the gl lib dose NOT match what the rpm uses

rmknox 01-26-2013 10:00 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by John VV (Post 4877786)
for a long time now the kmod AND the kernel ( they HAVE TO MATCH !!! ) came out together

but , that was not always the case .
Oh well -than that's the problem because locate shows a kmod for 3.6.11-5 and 3.6.11-1 but none for 3.7.3-101

So the game plan is set default=1 in the grub2 config file till I see that the nvidia part has arrived

Sure is nice to have expert advice like this

Thanks

Dick

John VV 01-26-2013 11:29 PM
install the akmod-nvidia
see the fedora forum guide ( for 17 so ...)
http://www.forums.fedoraforum.org/sh...d.php?t=280750

but will do for 18


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